My Dad's just purchased a Jaguar X-Type 3.0 V6!

[Magic069]

No, my Dad likes the style of the Chrysler 300C, that's it. It's the American appeal too.

I think it has something to do with it having some design aspects close to the older bentley's. My dad loves that cars (would never by one) looks too. I think their is a connection between it being affordable but yet looking way more expensive.

Just a theory.

 

[G.T]

My Dad has decided that he won't get the car anymore. It's just too expensive and all that money could be spent on other things.

 

[1X83Z]

Like a Daewoo!

 

[G.T]

Like a Daewoo!

lol he's not that bad!

Probably things we'll appreciate better, re-fitted bathroom, more computers , more for our uber £10,000 home cinema...

 

[Duke]

No, my Dad likes the style of the Chrysler 300C, that's it. It's the American appeal too.

Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. The first recorded instance of somebody outside North America actually liking an American car for what it is, rather than just grudgingly admitting that it might be decent, but they still wouldn't have one.

 

[G.T]

Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. The first recorded instance of somebody outside North America actually liking an American car for what it is, rather than just grudgingly admitting that it might be decent, but they still wouldn't have one.

Really?

 

[Race Idiot]

Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. The first recorded instance of somebody outside North America actually liking an American car for what it is, rather than just grudgingly admitting that it might be decent, but they still wouldn't have one.

Tonnes of people driving Fords all over europe would dissagree with you(Not true, I think they just forget somehow that it's an American manufacturer). Although most of them are about as American as, err something not very American (a Not-Viper Zero).

 

[McLaren]

Seems the mid-life crisis you reported ended rather quickly for a new car.

 

[G.T]

Seems the mid-life crisis you reported ended rather quickly for a new car.

Maybe, just maybe sometime he will get it...

When he's saved up enough money! It's like being a kid all over again.

 

[Famine]

Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. The first recorded instance of somebody outside North America actually liking an American car for what it is, rather than just grudgingly admitting that it might be decent, but they still wouldn't have one.

*hand up* I want an Explorer. Still.


G.T - get your dad to trade the 6 in anyway, pony up £4,000 more cash and get an 03-reg S-Type 3.0 V6 SE.

 

[G.T]

*hand up* I want an Explorer. Still.


G.T - get your dad to trade the 6 in anyway, pony up £4,000 more cash and get an 03-reg S-Type 3.0 V6 SE.

I know it's great, but it's the damn styling, that's one of the main apeals he has to have other than luxury. S-type is nothing like the styling of an American car really.

Also, I think my Dad has had a liking to big cars because he used to live in Australia for several years. He owned some big cars he loved there.

 

[Famine]

'51 plate XJR Supercharged then. Same money, same luxury, buckets more power and much, much bigger.

 

[G.T]

'51 plate XJR Supercharged then. Same money, same luxury, buckets more power and much, much bigger.

Now it would be the running costs of the thing, and I can tell he'll hate it more than the S-Type. Guess we'll never win.

 

[1X83Z]

*hand up* I want an Explorer. Still.

I had a supercharged one.

Why would you want an Explorer in Britain? And why would you ever recommend an '01 Jaguar XJR?

 

[Famine]

• I prefer it to the alternative SUVs
• 'Cause it's awesome

Anyway, superchargers are for the week.

 

[Elegy]

If people didn't change their cars regularly and only when they broke, the used car market would be stagnant and full of really expensive (rare = sought after = expensive), knackered cars. Thanks to G.T's dad there's another cheap, well-maintained, mid-size family saloon (which attracts rave reviews) hitting the market, helping those amongst us who are "not exactly rolling in it" access to continually better and better cars. This in turn contributes to improved road safety, as more people have access to the newer models with improved impact and pedestrian impact ratings, and the environment, as more people have access to cleaner, more efficient cars - and you get the idea.

This is true, though if it weren't for all the inflation over the years it wouldn't be too much of a problem (my father continually reminisces about the time when you could get a really good new car for under 10 grand). Also, considering the condition of that particular car...even at a used lot, it ought to fetch a pretty penny (at least, for people at my particular standard of living). Lastly, although I know a few people who have done this, I didn't have "drive it until the engine gives up the ghost" in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of "get your money's worth of use (like at least a few years) out of it before you trade her in".

 

[1X83Z]

• I prefer it to the alternative SUVs
• 'Cause it's awesome

Awesome like a dwarf is an awesome basketball player? Everyone knows the Japanese make the best midsize SUVs.

Anyway, superchargers are for the week.

Damn good point! What brilliance! And so well-articulated!

Christ - with intelligence like that you might be able to convince Subaru to put a 5.3-liter V8 inside the B9 Tribeca.

 

[Famine]

Ah, no - I was referring to the XJR as awesome, not the Explorer. Though it is also.

The Explorer isn't a midsize SUV in the UK either. It's a full size one... I just want something big and comfy with a bit of guts which I can carry crap (lots of crap) around in. The Explorer is relatively inexpensive compared to any rivals which can meet this criteria (our last Explorer was in 2000. The early 1997 models are now <£3,000 with little more than token mileage.


Thought you'd like the supercharger comment...

Did I ever tell you I was contemplating getting a second (broked) MX-3 and putting a KL03 Mazda Xedos 2.3 V6 Miller engine (with supercharger) in?

 

[1X83Z]

Ah, no - I was referring to the XJR as awesome, not the Explorer. Though it is also.

So you were referring to the Explorer in the first bullet and the XJR in the second one? Lord.

The Explorer isn't a midsize SUV in the UK either. It's a full size one... I just want something big and comfy with a bit of guts which I can carry crap (lots of crap) around in. The Explorer is relatively inexpensive compared to any rivals which can meet this criteria (our last Explorer was in 2000. The early 1997 models are now <£3,000 with little more than token mileage.

Europe should get the Honda Element. You'd swallow it up too, Famine. Isn't the Explorer's gas mileage just awful? It's below average in the US, and we pay little for gasoline compared to the UK. No wonder it's so damn cheap. Plus - you have the Grand Cherokee, or the Pajero, or the Patrol for comfy stuff with guts, don't you? Ford - pah!

Did I ever tell you I was contemplating getting a second (broked) MX-3 and putting a KL03 Mazda Xedos 2.3 V6 Miller engine (with supercharger) in?

I bet it'd work - I've heard many times that that engine is really compact. Our version got 210hp, too - the vehicle using the engine (Millenia in the US, Xedos over there) was no slouch; I can't imagine how an MX-3 would manage. You'd have a rocket for sure. I guess the only problem would be finding the engine.

 

[Famine]

So you were referring to the Explorer in the first bullet and the XJR in the second one? Lord.

Yes, my child, though you may call me Famine.

Europe should get the Honda Element. You'd swallow it up too, Famine. Isn't the Explorer's gas mileage just awful? It's below average in the US, and we pay little for gasoline compared to the UK. No wonder it's so damn cheap. Plus - you have the Grand Cherokee, or the Pajero, or the Patrol for comfy stuff with guts, don't you? Ford - pah!

The Element is vile. The Patrol is ugly. Pajero means "onanator" in Spanish, and everyone who drives one is, and the Grand Cherokee is even worse on the petrol, with no proper load space. The Patrol is very much a workhorse with no comfort in that age/price. The Cherokee is the other way round - we call them "toff roaders"

The Explorer does everything nearly as well as the car that does it best in each category.

By "stuff" I mean fence panels and a couple of tonnes of gravel.

I bet it'd work - I've heard many times that that engine is really compact. Our version got 210hp, too - the vehicle using the engine (Millenia in the US, Xedos over there) was no slouch; I can't imagine how an MX-3 would manage. You'd have a rocket for sure. I guess the only problem would be finding the engine.

The main issue is that the MX-3 V6 is manual and the KL03 is automatic. Apparently there's some electrical jiggery-pokery required to make it accept a manual transmission - enough that it's never been attempted before...

 

[xcsti]

The Cherokee is the other way round - we call them "toff roaders".

Your cherokee is one in the same with our liberty, right?

If it is then I'd say you should eliminate it just because of it's likelyhood to endup upside down.

 

[a6m5]

Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. The first recorded instance of somebody outside North America actually liking an American car for what it is, rather than just grudgingly admitting that it might be decent, but they still wouldn't have one.

Just for the record, I was a huge fan of Camaros, Trans Ams and other American cars while growing up.

 

[amp88]

I've got a picture of the new Viper on the wall in my bedroom that I printed out too. I suppose that'll probably come as a surprise to a few people

edit: This pic, if anyone's interested

 

[Elegy]

I've got a picture of the new Viper on the wall in my bedroom that I printed out too.

That looks like the old GTS-R Viper concept to me. Could also be the SRT-10 Competition Coupe...kinda hard for me to tell since I haven't seen one from that angle that close up...

 

[amp88]

That looks like the old GTS-R Viper concept to me. Could also be the SRT-10 Competition Coupe...kinda hard for me to tell since I haven't seen one from that angle that close up...

Yep, it's the GTS/R Concept

 

[Jay]

Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. The first recorded instance of somebody outside North America actually liking an American car for what it is, rather than just grudgingly admitting that it might be decent, but they still wouldn't have one.

Well theres quite afew people like that around, my dad likes American cars so much he's imported quite afew and we still have one now.

I like American cars although I dont like converting them to RHD.

 

[Elegy]

Thought that's what it was. Very nice, very nice. Strictly speaking it's not the "new" Viper as guys like Tommy Archer now race with the SRT-10 Viper Competition Coupe, but still...

 

[McLaren]

I've got a picture of the new Viper on the wall in my bedroom that I printed out too. I suppose that'll probably come as a surprise to a few people

edit: This pic, if anyone's interested

New?

Unfornately it was more of what designs to come than the car itself. Its friggin' badass car, and would be awesome with a V12, but I digress.

Anyways, the car dates back to 2001.

 

[amp88]

New?

Unfornately it was more of what designs to come than the car itself. Its friggin' badass car, and would be awesome with a V12, but I digress.

Anyways, the car dates back to 2001.

Pic 1
Pic 2

Fairly similar, no?

 

[Elegy]

Yes, they are. Evidently Dodge borrowed a number of features from the GTS-R when they built the SRT-10.

However, when most people speak of the "new Viper", what they usually mean is this little number here.