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Search "Kate Upton Sobe commercial" on YouTube. Thank me later. ;)

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The long night is finally over! Congratulations to [the Daytona 500 winner]! All sorts of insanity all weekend long.

Well... bring on Phoenix! The NASCAR tour now heads out to R1600Turbo country.
 
biffle might really regret giving away this win. as proven by last year, wins are more important than ever.

in today's nascar when it's so hard to win, you do not give away wins, especially when its given to you on a silver platter. you seize the opportunity and run with it
 
Great race! I missed the final 15 laps or so, but still. I enjoyed your company guys, except when a few of you endorsed on pointless arguments.. But other than that.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
First time I've seen them interview the driver that finished 38th

Exactly, we just had to get one more friggin danika shot in there. and to montoya? clap clap clap, wow you just made highlight real history gold you snivling crybaby.
 
That was the craziest 500 I've seen. Wanted dale to win, but I was happy for Kenseth. Hendrick sure had a S***** night tho.
 
The two big Fords of Kenseth and Biffle left everyone else for dead. Over and over again.
 
Well, i'll be gone this Sunday so I will miss most of the race. I will still be back to watch the rest of it though, so that's good.

Hopefully Jeff Gordon doesn't wreck again and as a matter of fact, I don't remember the last time he didn't wreck in a Daytona 500 start.
 
Well, i'll be gone this Sunday so I will miss most of the race. I will still be back to watch the rest of it though, so that's good.

Hopefully Jeff Gordon doesn't wreck again and as a matter of fact, I don't remember the last time he didn't wreck in a Daytona 500 start.

Except he didn't wreck, his engine exploded out the bottom end.

Edit: In other news, while NASCAR doesn't particularly like smart phones being in the cars, they won't be penalizing Brad for his use of it last night. Didn't break any rules and wasn't putting anyone in any danger.
 
I'll add that the #42 team have determined that a rear suspension failure is what caused Montoya to lose control of his car.
 
The one thing to remember is that even though it's the Daytona 500 (and other races at Daytona), it is just one race out of MANY remaining races. This thing goes from February to mid-November. Just one race will not tell the story of a season. Still a long way to go. Lots of miles to log. Many laps to run. This ain't over, folks.
 
Great run for Joey Logano. The kid has talent but hasn't quite performed at the highest tier. I think this year could be Joey's year - battling for wins, getting into the chase and winning a couple of races.

Feel sorry for Jimmie Johnson but hey that's karma, you cheat you get wrecked in the Shootout and 500.
 
Edit: In other news, while NASCAR doesn't particularly like smart phones being in the cars, they won't be penalizing Brad for his use of it last night. Didn't break any rules and wasn't putting anyone in any danger.

The fact that it was his SPRINT iphone didn't hurt. ;)
 
The long night is finally over! Congratulations to [the Daytona 500 winner]! All sorts of insanity all weekend long.

Well... bring on Phoenix! The NASCAR tour now heads out to R1600Turbo country.

It's more Cactus country than his.
 
Looking at the ratings, last night's race did twice the number that Alcatraz/House normally do.

I think FOX was ok with not airing their normal shows.
 
Looking at the ratings, last night's race did twice the number that Alcatraz/House normally do.

I think FOX was ok with not airing their normal shows.

2 hours of NOTHING was better than 2 hours of their normal programming. :lol:
 
Except he didn't wreck, his engine exploded out the bottom end.

Edit: In other news, while NASCAR doesn't particularly like smart phones being in the cars, they won't be penalizing Brad for his use of it last night. Didn't break any rules and wasn't putting anyone in any danger.

Well, NASCAR reached a new low.

Some states dont allow drivers to text or use cell phones while driving, yet NASCAR is fine with smart phones in it's cars? What does that say about safety?

Quick, name me a professional sporting league that allows it's players to use phones of any kind during an event.

Kimi Raikkonen was heavily criticized for eating ice cream during a weather delay during the Malaysian Grand Prix. The fans liked it, like how they like Keselowski's tweets, but most managers looked down on it as unprofessional and cited a lack of institutional control at Ferrari. Now imagine their reactions if Raikkonen was tweeting while sitting in the car.

I understand NASCAR wants to put on a show and be entertaining. But you must not cheapen or defame the sport and experience by allowing behavior like this to take place. Allowing drivers to take each other out on track without penalty was just the start, now this?

There is only so much I can take. When NASCAR crosses the line from sport/entertainment to pure entertainment, I'm done.
 
Some states dont allow drivers to text or use cell phones while driving, yet NASCAR is fine with smart phones in it's cars? What does that say about safety?

Did you happen to miss the part where they said: "We encourage our drivers to use social media to express themselves as long as they do so without risking their safety or that of others."

These guys aren't out there doing 200mph and playing with their phones. I see nothing wrong with them whipping it out to stay in touch with their fans during a red flag, or before/after practice, qualifying, a race, or whatever.
 
Well, NASCAR reached a new low.

Some states dont allow drivers to text or use cell phones while driving, yet NASCAR is fine with smart phones in it's cars? What does that say about safety?

Quick, name me a professional sporting league that allows it's players to use phones of any kind during an event.

Kimi Raikkonen was heavily criticized for eating ice cream during a weather delay during the Malaysian Grand Prix. The fans liked it, like how they like Keselowski's tweets, but most managers looked down on it as unprofessional and cited a lack of institutional control at Ferrari. Now imagine their reactions if Raikkonen was tweeting while sitting in the car.

I understand NASCAR wants to put on a show and be entertaining. But you must not cheapen or defame the sport and experience by allowing behavior like this to take place. Allowing drivers to take each other out on track without penalty was just the start, now this?

There is only so much I can take. When NASCAR crosses the line from sport/entertainment to pure entertainment, I'm done.

That is so ludicrously ridiculous, that it has to be trolling of some sort.

There was a 2+ hour delay for a catastrophic accident on track, and the drivers had nothing else to do but stand around and wait for the track to be brought back to a safe condition. He wasn't exactly texting and driving out there. This can't even be compared to an NBA or NFL player tweeting on the sidelines or during halftime, because those moments are times where the coaches are interacting with the players, going over game plans, plays, and adjustments. Maybe he had the phone with him so he could tweet from Victory Lane, had he wound up there at the end of the night. Had the race never stopped, and he not won, no one else in the world would have ever known that he had his phone with him, and no one should care that he did. I'm not a Brad K. fan (Cale hates me now...), but I can't see any reason why he should be getting backlash from this. Hell, it was a great unintentional promotion for the sport's major sponsor, Sprint.
 
Earth
There is only so much I can take. When NASCAR crosses the line from sport/entertainment to pure entertainment, I'm done.

I really think you're overreacting. I see no problem with Keselowski having a phone in his car. He is not texting while driving nor is he doing anything unsafe. This does not make the event less of a sporting event and more of just entertainment. I really don't understand anyone's problem with having a phone in a NASCAR. Unconventional yes, unsafe and unreasonable no.

And as for Raikkonen eating an icecream, who cares? Its icecream. I think there is no point in keeping people under lock and key like that. People are people. But athletes have a microscope on them at all times. When you take a step back and look at it, its just a guy eating icecream. I really see no problem unless it hurts his performance.

MustangRyan
That is so ludicrously ridiculous, that it has to be trolling of some sort.

I think its ludicrously ludicrous. :lol:
 
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Good God... Raikkonen was retired from that Malaysian GP when he was eating ice cream. They might as well criticize him for being in street clothes in the garage as well. :rolleyes:

Quit overreacting to every small detail.
 
Earth
Well, NASCAR reached a new low.

Some states dont allow drivers to text or use cell phones while driving, yet NASCAR is fine with smart phones in it's cars? What does that say about safety?

Quick, name me a professional sporting league that allows it's players to use phones of any kind during an event.

Kimi Raikkonen was heavily criticized for eating ice cream during a weather delay during the Malaysian Grand Prix. The fans liked it, like how they like Keselowski's tweets, but most managers looked down on it as unprofessional and cited a lack of institutional control at Ferrari. Now imagine their reactions if Raikkonen was tweeting while sitting in the car.

I understand NASCAR wants to put on a show and be entertaining. But you must not cheapen or defame the sport and experience by allowing behavior like this to take place. Allowing drivers to take each other out on track without penalty was just the start, now this?

There is only so much I can take. When NASCAR crosses the line from sport/entertainment to pure entertainment, I'm done.

It's not like he pulled it out while they were driving. They had been stopped for a long time.

You're overacting a lot.
 
Well, NASCAR reached a new low.

Some states dont allow drivers to text or use cell phones while driving, yet NASCAR is fine with smart phones in it's cars? What does that say about safety?

Quick, name me a professional sporting league that allows it's players to use phones of any kind during an event.

Kimi Raikkonen was heavily criticized for eating ice cream during a weather delay during the Malaysian Grand Prix. The fans liked it, like how they like Keselowski's tweets, but most managers looked down on it as unprofessional and cited a lack of institutional control at Ferrari. Now imagine their reactions if Raikkonen was tweeting while sitting in the car.

I understand NASCAR wants to put on a show and be entertaining. But you must not cheapen or defame the sport and experience by allowing behavior like this to take place. Allowing drivers to take each other out on track without penalty was just the start, now this?

There is only so much I can take. When NASCAR crosses the line from sport/entertainment to pure entertainment, I'm done.

who knew a cell phone was a make or break situation for some fans :rolleyes:
 
Daytona 500

After several restrictor plate races that have led to dwindling crowds and grumbling from fans, NASCAR made several changes to the cars and rules to return pack racing. The results so far have been disastrous, with numerous crashes marring speedweeks. Sadly, I wonder if thats what opponents of tandem drafting wanted all along.

Tandem drafting wasn't perfect, but it was a step in the right direction. NASCAR tries to people please more then anyone, but at some point they have to realize at times fans must be seen and not heard.

Pack racing can be exciting, but it comes along with all it's baggage. Large, unavoidable multi-car crashes that can wipe out most of the field are common place. This year they happened at an unusually high rate. My explanation is the combination of large restrictor plates and the bumpers of the cars matching up so well.

NASCAR wanted to give the drivers more engine response so they increased the restrictor plate size, giving plate races the highest speeds they've seen in over a decade. This however has increased closing speeds in the draft, making tight pack racing that much more hairy. Also, the bumpers on the new cars match up perfectly. If you tried to bump draft like they do today with the old car odds are you would lift the rear wheels of the driver in front off the ground. Since the bumpers match up so well drivers take more chances in how close they are willing to race eachother, increasing the risk of contact and crashes.

The result was a boring race. Drivers were content in just logging laps, nobody wanted to race too hard as the chances of causing a wreck thanks to all the variables was too high. It was a poor race, drivers routinely left as much as half a car length between the bumper of their cars and others, everyone feared crashing so they stopped racing.

The finish to the race was atrocious, and not just by the high standards set at Daytona. It was painfully obvious Biffle had orders to let Kenseth win, as demonstrated by his inability to get within a car length of Kenseth with Earnhardt Jr pushing him. Ford or Rousch, not sure who, did not want Earnhardt Jr to steal the race, so Biffle just sat there, and did nothing.

At least Speedweeks is over and no one was seriously hurt. NASCAR has alot of items on the table to look over. My thoughts on social networking and the jet dryer incident are already out there, and I'll leave it at that. But the rules package for restrictor plate racing must change. The drivers have too much power, too much response as it stands now.

As for who looks good early, all I can tell is that the Fords have the most horsepower and thats about it. I wouldnt be surprised if a Rousch Ford wins the title this year.
 
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