Need help driving a stickshift :(

[alex_gt]

Don't Auto's take away some of the fun? Just like in :gt: It's gotta be manual for the real driving Experience...:burnout:

 

[AltF8]

Yep, I'll never buy an automatic again.

The WRX has a 5 speed, and I had an STi short-shift linkage kit installed (~$300US). Never again will I taste the ickyness of auto.

Right now, I'm learning rev-matching downshifts (getting pretty good at that one), and clutch-less shifting (this one is coming along...).

I'm also finding that I apparently shift too quickly when I'm really trying. Never timed it, but it's easily sub-0.5 seconds. I'm 'clunking' the rear differential when I re-engage. Bummer.

 

[slip2rock]

i get to swap between the two...... occasionally i forget to stick it in first at the lights and try to pull away in 4th......

Captain Kangeroo style!

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by AltF8
and clutch-less shifting (this one is coming along...).

I'd advise doing this in the WRX - the box is already somewhat notorious for losing synchros on gear.

 

[Race Idiot]

how does clutch-less shifting work?

 

[Robin2]

Originally posted by vat_man


I'd advise doing this in the WRX - the box is already somewhat notorious for losing synchros on gear.

too right.

 

[whitez]

Originally posted by Y2TUSCAN
how does clutch-less shifting work?

are you reffering to the term "double cluching?"

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by whitez


are you reffering to the term "double cluching?"

No - he means shifting without using the clutch. It can be done - it's all about managing the torque load from engine - it's generally easier on the way up than on the way down, because at higher revs (i.e. near the redline) the engine's producing less torque, so it's reasonably easy to pull it out of gear and pop it into the next gear up (carefully matching revs).

I used to do it in my old '76 Corolla, and killed two gearboxes doing it (hey, when you can pick up a box for about $60 from a wreckers, and it's a 30 minute instal you can do yourself, who cares, right?). I have tried it a couple of times with the Liberty/Legacy, but I certainly wouldn't recommend doing it in a car you're planning to keep past warranty.

 

[Robin2]

thats what they do in the V8 supercars. ive done it in the commodore once or twice but as vat_man said "I certainly wouldn't recommend doing it in a car you're planning to keep past warranty"

 

[vat_man]

Yeah, the V8's run Hollinger crash boxes that only last a couple of thousand kays - it is quicker, as you get drive faster (you don't have to wait for the clutch to engage and disengage), but when they drain the gearbox oil out at servce and see all those little metal bits in the oil, you'll have awkward questions to answer.

Actually, with a torquey turbo motor and AWD, it will be even harder on the box, as there's more torque, and more traction (and therefore resistance) from all four tyres. That twisting force has gotta go somewhere!

 

[Robin2]

Originally posted by vat_man
Yeah, the V8's run Hollinger crash boxes that only last a couple of thousand kays - it is quicker, as you get drive faster (you don't have to wait for the clutch to engage and disengage), but when they drain the gearbox oil out at servce and see all those little metal bits in the oil, you'll have awkward questions to answer.

they do full rebuilds on most parts after each weekend of racing. thats why theres the little tray in the bottom of the gearbox, its to hole the teeth in