new audi tt (concept)

[TheCracker]

Actually James(2097) - that was very well put and although i hate the TT and everything it stands for (IMO) i have to agree with your 'design' biased opinion.

 

[James2097]

Famine, I know you call it indigo - I clearly had to type "INDIGO" to make your quotes appropriately coloured, I was just calling it by the more widely used alternative (broader colour catagory) PURPLE because I knew you'd find it annoying . This is because calling it PURPLE makes your text less individualistic as its a more common term. It doesn't matter how dark or light the shade of it is. Its still purple. You can call it indigo if you like.

The PURPLE colour is totally for your wants, to be individual. You can intellectualise it if you want (as you don't want to agree with my hypothesis), but there is seriously a VERY minimal difference (if any, I have no reason to agree, I've never come across this idea before - and I've studied colours and their relationships regarding human perception at length) in readability between PURPLE and black, which provides better contrast and readability on a light background as it is. I could make my font bold, that would surpass your chosen text for sure in readability! There is a reason why most pens are black or blue, not a slightly more blue PURPLE.
It would effectively be the same as dark blue, really. I said that with no additional research or nothing. But I'm right because thats what I think!

From a product design point of view, if the TT sells by the bucket load (as it has), its a successful design, which obviously possesses certain qualities people find attractive. That by itself PROVES that the TT is indeed a good design (from Audi's point of view, and from any designer's point of view). You are wrong. I know it because I said it. Quite firmly.

Alfas are historically terrible mechanically and known widely for bits dropping off them. Whether they are good now isn't important, they are a questionable brand. I'd never buy an Italian car for a daily driver in a remote area! I'd go Japanese or German, thanks.

Now, I never said YOU hated everything or didn't have reasons for genuinely disliking things like the TT (I even said I respected your opinion, something you haven't said about me). I was talking about the general catagories of people and why they like/dislike certain products with a vengence. No need to assume its personal.
You're a "rimmer" and a trivial minded pom (begrudgingly a funny and intelligent one with a painfully good memory for random facts). Now that was PERSONAL

 

[Young_Warrior]

Woah james is on top of this thread.

 

[Famine]

From a product design point of view, if the TT sells by the bucket load (as it has), its a successful design, which obviously possesses certain qualities people find attractive. That by itself PROVES that the TT is indeed a good design (from Audi's point of view, and from any designer's point of view). You are wrong. I know it because I said it. Quite firmly.

*shrugs* Then the Toyota Corolla, Ford Ka and Vauxhall Corsa (Holden Barina) are better ones. More people buy them than the TT, so their design is better.

Or something.

Famine, I know you call it indigo - I clearly had to type "INDIGO" to make your quotes appropriately coloured, I was just calling it by the more widely used alternative (broader colour catagory) PURPLE because I knew you'd find it annoying . This is because calling it PURPLE makes your text less individualistic as its a more common term. It doesn't matter how dark or light the shade of it is. Its still purple. You can call it indigo if you like.

Then orange is red - it's just a lighter shade and it doesn't matter how dark or light the shade of it is, right? Rainbows must be dull in Australia, with only 5 colours.

The PURPLE colour is totally for your wants, to be individual. You can intellectualise it if you want (as you don't want to agree with my hypothesis), but there is seriously a VERY minimal difference (if any, I have no reason to agree, I've never come across this idea before - and I've studied colours and their relationships regarding human perception at length) in readability between PURPLE and black, which provides better contrast and readability on a light background as it is. I could make my font bold, that would surpass your chosen text for sure in readability! There is a reason why most pens are black or blue, not a slightly more blue PURPLE.
It would effectively be the same as dark blue, really. I said that with no additional research or nothing. But I'm right because thats what I think!

Nope.

What cells are clustered around the centre of your retina - the part you use for reading?

What cells are not present around the centre of your retina?

What cells are used to distinguish colours? What cells are used to distinguish light from dark?

What's the common name for the spot at the centre of your retina?


Coloured text is easier for us to read than white-on-black or black-on-white. Dark purple shades - or "indigo" - in particular are the easiest to perceive, simply because of our biology.

As I said, I'm adding valuable time to your life, simply by saving you energy reading my posts.

I was just calling it by the more widely used alternative (broader colour catagory) PURPLE because I knew you'd find it annoying

That's not - horror! - immaturity creeping in is it?

The day I find something on the internet annoying is the day I buy slippers, a pipe and a Rover 75, and complain about "young people today". Again - supremely lazy, can't be arsed.



Interestingly, we both have the same opinion on the most beautiful car ever.

Funny old world.

 

[James2097]

*shrugs* Then the Toyota Corolla, Ford Ka and Vauxhall Corsa (Holden Barina) are better ones. More people buy them than the TT, so their design is better.

Or something.

Those other cars are bought primarily for practicality and cost reasons. The TT is by very nature an impractical car. Hence its looks are much more important to the people that buy them, in fact one of the only reasons they are bought, especially as they certainly don't drive very well!

Then orange is red - it's just a lighter shade and it doesn't matter how dark or light the shade of it is, right? Rainbows must be dull in Australia, with only 5 colours.

Orange is way more different to red than indigo is to purple. Can I have a helping of "can't be arsed" too?

Nope.

What cells are clustered around the centre of your retina - the part you use for reading?

What cells are not present around the centre of your retina?

What cells are used to distinguish colours? What cells are used to distinguish light from dark?

What's the common name for the spot at the centre of your retina?

Coloured text is easier for us to read than white-on-black or black-on-white. Dark purple shades - or "indigo" - in particular are the easiest to perceive, simply because of our biology.

Ok. I'd still like more explanation, I'm not a biologist. Surely the energy saved is pretty minimal, like completely irrelevant? I'm not finding the black text any harder to read, personally.

As I said, I'm adding valuable time to your life, simply by saving you energy reading my posts.

Thanks, but I'll die in about 15 years tops, if I'm lucky.
Your text colour is considerate in its intent, but kind of unimportant, the main noticeable difference from my perspective is it makes you look different. It was good to know the reason you do it however, I've always wondered.
However, I use more energy than what my eyes supposedly save typing out those (or copying and pasting) damn bold and colour tags for every quote I reply to!

That's not - horror! - immaturity creeping in is it?.

YES. YES IT IS.

Interestingly, we both have the same opinion on the most beautiful car ever.

Funny old world.

Why is this surprising? The DB9 IS the most beautiful car ever.

If we both agree I can't see how ANY other outcome could ever be correct. Especially when we have such firm opinions (facts.. sorry, they're FACTS). Apart from when I am right and you're wrong. Unless its about something intelligent like biology...

We didn't come here lookin' for trouble,
We just came to do the indigo shuffle
We're smart! (boom! boom! clap!; boom! boom! clap!)
We're smart! (boom! boom! clap!; boom! boom! clap!)
(You'll definately know what that's a bastardisation of, just felt like it, dunno why.)​

P.S. I was totally joking about insulting you, but I knew you wouldn't get too fussed anyway. Just so you know.

 

[Famine]

You gave it away when you said I was a "rimmer"...

I use more energy than what my eyes supposedly save typing out those (or copying and pasting) damn bold and colour tags for every quote I reply to!

It's part of my plot to take over the world. Sucker people in with energy-saving text, then waste their lives replying! Mwahahahaha!

 

[Dave A]

Why is this surprising? The DB9 IS the most beautiful car ever.

Thats one thing we can all agree on.

As for the topic of Famines posts and their colour, I wouldn't expect it to be noticable in short posts, maybe if you read a whole book in black on white and then indigo you'd notice the difference more.

And yes, Famine's real name is Chris Barrie.

 

[James2097]

As for the topic of Famines posts and their colour, I wouldn't expect it to be noticable in short posts, maybe if you read a whole book in black on white and then indigo you'd notice the difference more.

I'd like to do an experiment. I'd like Famine to read the complete set of Encyclypedia Brittanica in standard format, then Indigo. Then report back on the comparitive eye strain. I'm sure he re-reads the encyclopedia everyday anyway.

I can't do it, because "Spot goes fishing" isn't long enough. The only other books I read don't have words.....

 

[Famine]

And yes, Famine's real name is Chris Barrie.

I met Chris Barrie last week.

I didn't shake his hand, in case the universe exploded.

 

[James2097]

I was at Crown Casino in Melb. when Craig Charles got kicked out for drunk and disorderly!!
AWESOME FORM, it didn't ruin my perception of Lister at all.

 

[TheCracker]

Bollox to the DB9 being the most beautiful car ever! 👎

You've all being staring at Famine's Indigo text for too long!

 

[Dave A]

No, I've sat in one, I've seen them up close and the DB9 IS the most beautiful car I've seen.

 

[James2097]

No, I've sat in one, I've seen them up close and the DB9 IS the most beautiful car I've seen.

Ditto. LOVE the start button. Very classy. The perfect mix of luxury, muscle and classy good taste.

Proves how dull Audis generally are when we start talking about Astons. Hehe.

 

[F1GTR]

*cough*Mclaren F1*cough*

 

[TheCracker]

No, I've sat in one, I've seen them up close and the DB9 IS the most beautiful car I've seen.

I've seen them up close, from a distance and every increment in between - and although they're a good looking car, they are by no way the best looking car ever.

The 246 Dino outside my window is better for starters

- i've just noticed one of those new sporty 'hard-core' TT's about 50 yards away from me. Its bright red with the black roof - a colour scheme that really shows the flaws in its shape. Black or silver (99.999% of all TT's) flatter most cars - a bright red car has to be a looker to get away with it - and this one can't!

 

[James2097]

Nope, the F1 looks like it could be out of Ridge Racer...
This is mine and Famine's temporary space as of now and we say what goes. As I said, our opinions are fact. The DB9 is the best, no questions asked.

The only thing that looks better than a DB9 is a Fender Stratocaster.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Proves how dull Audis generally are when we start talking about Astons. Hehe.

I AM A AUDI FAN BOY 🤬

Murcelago nicer than DB9.

BTW db9 minimalistiv design like all audi.

 

[TheCracker]

Nope, the F1 looks like it could be out of Ridge Racer...
This is mine and Famine's temporary space as of now and we say what goes. As I said, our opinions are fact. The DB9 is the best, no questions asked.

We're taking design direction and taste from someone who copies The Designers Republic in their avatar?

 

[James2097]

DB9:
A great big muscular grill on the front is minimalist? Its a clean flowing design, but has enough curves and little details to not really be considered super minimalist (especially the interior).

Lambos aren't Audis, even though those bloody germans own them now. They are silly. I find the cockpit in general comes too far forward, but I'll give you that the Murcialago is one of the best Lambos in years. We have a Lambo dealership near my place, I often look at them for quite a while, while my milk is going off in the sun... they are a awesome looking car, but too crazy for me.

Edit: The designers republic are fun, but not really that well considered in much of their stuff, they certainly don't have what I consider a very mature integrity. I hate the more cartoony overly busy stuff they do. I do however love WipEout 2097, its my favorite game. I did not copy the Designers Republic, but its an original little logo that happens to look like a WipEout team (and hence racey and appropriate for GTPlanet). NOT representative of the general style I favour.

 

[F1GTR]

Nope, the F1 looks like it could be out of Ridge Racer...
This is mine and Famine's temporary space as of now and we say what goes. As I said, our opinions are fact. The DB9 is the best, no questions asked.

The only thing that looks better than a DB9 is a Fender Stratocaster.

That's because the guys who made Ridge Racer copied a few design cues from the F1.
You call this something from RR?:

It's beautiful,flowing and like the DB9, has a simple, effective design that you'll remember. I'm not saying the DB9 is ugly, it's very beautiful, but I've seen three over the last weekend, up close, in person but I don't get the same buzz from it like the F1.

And I think Les Pauls look better

 

[James2097]

That's because the guys who made Ridge Racer copied a few design cues from the F1.

It's beautiful,flowing and like the DB9, has a simple, effective design that you'll remember. I'm not saying the DB9 is ugly, it's very beautiful, but I've seen three over the last weekend, up close, in person but I don't get the same buzz from it like the F1.

And I think Les Pauls look better

I was joking about Ridge Racer, obviously. The F1 does look good, but I don't get a buzz like I get from a Ferrari if we're going for the classic 'wedgey' supercar style car. I find the F1 actually looks a bit busy (too many little holes, complex little details, I also don't like big vents in the doors (or whatever they are) like a testarossa). Its just a bit too full on for me, like the Lambo is. I recognise the F1 as a great design though, and why you like it.

You don't think I like Les Pauls? I bought one when I had just enough money, and I ate like crap for months to save money as fast as possible for it! I'm ultimately a Stratocaster guy, unlike most designs I can't divorce the sound from the looks this time, I'm too attached emotionally to be able to...

 

[Dave A]

Tbh I'm not a huge fan of McLaren F1's design, I mean it looks good, but I don't think it looks fabulous or stunning, I mean if I saw one in the street I'd gawp at it, but thats cos it's a McLaren F1, not cos it looks stunning. As for the Dino, I get to see one of thoes regular too, theres a car audio shopnear my house and the owner had a Dino (he also has a Countach and a great big effing classic Rolls) he parks all three of them in and out of his audio shop every morning and as much as I admire the Dino, imo it's not better looking than the DB9. As for the DB9 being aminimalist shape, I don't think it is, theres something going on in every curve and panel. Even if you do consider it minimalist, theres nothing wrong with a minimalist style, it's just like every other style some minimalist styled cars will look good, some won't.

 

[F1GTR]

I'm ultimately a Stratocaster guy, unlike most designs I can't divorce the sound from the looks this time, I'm too attached emotionally to be able to...

Then you'll know why I like F1's so much; I got a 1:18 model of one when I was small. My love of the F1 is the same as you with your Strat.

 

[JohnBM01]

First an image-killing Mini Cooper concept, now this. Mazda designers must have done up the headlights, In fact, I'd say the headlights and grill (despite much taller) scream RX-8 in design. The rear of the car doesn't look too bad. And if you loved the Audi TT as a roadster, then those days are going to be gone if this concept holds true.

My thing is that I've always kind of seen this as a trendy and kind of cute car. It was a trendy coupe or roadster, and if this all holds true, the next TT will certainly kill the image of its predecesor. It will be what the Infiniti G35 (I forget its Japanese name) did to the image of the R34 Skyline. Maybe worse. You dig me, peeps?

On top of that, I'd have to learn Italian one day.

 

[Dave A]

This concept is for whats called a shooting brake version, it's not what the regular TT coupe and roadster will look like. A shooting brake is a kind of estate version of a sportscar/supercar that usually you would never consider to be mae as an estate, Ferrari's done it, Aston Martin had it done, ect. There will still be an Audi TT coupe and cabriolet that feature a more conventional rear design.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Ye plus the front end of the nex TT wont really look nothing like that. When I have the time I would post a thread titled the Real New audi TT.

 

[Famine]

It will supposedly look like this:

 

[Young_Warrior]

looks like the upcoming A5 or the facelifted a4 cabriolet to me with somneone slapping on those TT headrest metal things.

 

[Dave A]

This is the real new Audi TT, just cos it's a different model to the coupe and roadster doesn't stop it being an Audi TT.

 

[Young_Warrior]

but its not a real audi TT. Its a shooting break.