New Track Limits in place in FIA events

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syntex123
Some tracks do add tires on the inside line so why not? Doesn't look that off, sure some tracks doesn't use them irl, but this is still a game we're talking about. But what about cones, what if it was solid brick cones? :P
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Even for the inside ones, it's the utterly solid nature of them that is totally unrealistic.

A string of solid obstacles blocking the run-off area... well that just takes it to a whole new level! Never seen before!

It's still a game... yet so many take track limits so goddamn seriously :lol:
 
After a full race with the new barriers at Suzuka and Nurburgring GP, the placement must have been decided by the same person that did the cone placement for GT Academy. Wonder what I thought about that?

Well, guess the origin of my current avatar.

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Outspacer
Even for the inside ones, it's the utterly solid nature of them that is totally unrealistic.

A string of solid obstacles blocking the run-off area... well that just takes it to a whole new level! Never seen before!

It's still a game... yet so many take track limits so goddamn seriously :lol:
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Unrealisitic sure but it is fair. I mean, how many times have you been divebombed? This should eliminate that. :P
 
syntex123
Unrealisitic sure but it is fair. I mean, how many times have you been divebombed? This should eliminate that. :P
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Fair? That just means same for everyone. It was fair before. It would still be fair even with no track limits at all!!

I thought penalties were supposed to eliminate dive-bombing? How many more efforts will we see? Reminds me of an old lady who swallowed a fly...
 
mclarenLB
Can confirm the Top 24 race at Nurburgring GP yesterday went completely fine, as opposed to the apocalypse that some were predicting.. Had some incredible battles. Had a bit of a run in with the chicane tyres too :P check it out here:

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Suzuka was also a race full of great battles, and I don't think anyone hit the scary Degner 1 barrier. It's almost like we all adapted our driving to the situation *thinking emoji*
 
mthomas_95
Suzuka was also a race full of great battles, and I don't think anyone hit the scary Degner 1 barrier. It's almost like we all adapted our driving to the situation *thinking emoji*
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Would be interesting to watch how the DR B/A drivers get on though who won’t be as consistent as the top24!

It’s not really much of an issue, people will adapt just fine. How do people cope with Tokyo that’s surrounded by solid barriers?

But it’s just a very ugly way of implementing it. And it has the potential to cause incidents that shouldn’t really be a thing. (think the bus stop on dragon trail!)
 
They get annoying when you get pushed into them. Though considering I wasn't running good at all it just was icing on top of a pile of p**.
 
Outspacer
I thought penalties were supposed to eliminate dive-bombing? How many more efforts will we see? Reminds me of an old lady who swallowed a fly...
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Hahaha :P in the daily races almost noone makes any effort of getting rid of said penalty so I don’t know man.
 
TamasToth
I really can't see why this ugly method is needed. The track limits was visible good enough (there's the white line). They just forgot to detect and sanction leaving the track at that places. Detection and penalizing could be enough - as it is working along many track-kilometers at other places.
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Because some peoiple just won't play fairly ...thats why they are there ...to prevent abuse.
 
flamingchariot
Because some peoiple just won't play fairly ...thats why they are there ...to prevent abuse.
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That's why penalty times are stacked up for leaving the track - a lot of other places. I just say this time-penalty can work, don't need to invent other tricks. At that first part of the Nurburgring this track-leaving detection was completely missing. That was the problem, not if there is physical barriers or not.
Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely with the theory, as I skipped all races on tracks where the competitive times were made with abused track limits. I just question if this ugly method needed.
 
TamasToth
Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely with the theory, as I skipped all races on tracks where the competitive times were made with abused track limits. I just question if this ugly method needed.
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I agree, it seems a bit overkill. This argument goes back to the track abuse thread a few months ago but we won't get back into that lol. PD decided this was the course to take and I don't think it's too terrible. Consequences can seem too much for cutting a chicane. Eat a cookie, lose a finger.
 
TamasToth
That's why penalty times are stacked up for leaving the track - a lot of other places. I just say this time-penalty can work, don't need to invent other tricks. At that first part of the Nurburgring this track-leaving detection was completely missing. That was the problem, not if there is physical barriers or not.
Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely with the theory, as I skipped all races on tracks where the competitive times were made with abused track limits. I just question if this ugly method needed.
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Just a far fetched theory but the barriers may be temporary features to inform everyone of track limits, either existing ones or ones that they have adjusted/added.

One point I did want to clarify. At Suzuka, I felt as though the optimal time did not change much with the new barriers but it did negatively impact race pace. It was like the Dragon Trail bus stop where I would push through on flyers but was safer in the race. Yes, aggressive driving should be rewarded but at least the bus stop has this sense of accomplishment when you get it right.
 
cleanLX
So, has anyone tested how quickly the game is able to "ghost" (if it even does) a car when it is stopped by one of these barriers?
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Cars hitting barriers do get ghosted, but not quickly enough for me in the Nations Cup race last night... On the first lap, I was following another car which hit the barrier at Degner 1. Although it looks in the replay like there's a clear (if small) gap between the cars, I was basically stopped dead as well, and incurred mechanical damage and a penalty. :banghead:

The same thing almost happened again later, but the car in front ghosted in time. I saw a bunch more cars hitting barriers during the race, in other places as well.

That said, I'm not against the barriers in principle, but some tweaking seems needed still.
 
mclarenLB
Was a bit disappointed how these tyres weren't on the inside of the esses at Dragon Trail, people still cutting them like crazy.
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That's one place they could put them to stop cutting and not cause any issues, so of course that's left as it is.

It's going to be interesting to see where they get put at Maggiore because there's a fair few places they probably should be. Also do you think they'll ever add them to the dailies at any point, that would help people get used to them if this is a permanent thing.
 
Liking these. On Suzuka you hit tyres, you're dead for a bit.
 
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I have a feeling these barriers are reserved to real location courses only. I think the idea is to enforce the real life driving lines without changing the corner cutting penalties for the rest of the game. I'm guessing fictional tracks will not be touched.
 
vvise
I have a feeling these barriers are reserved to real location courses only. I think the idea is to enforce the real life driving lines without changing the corner cutting penalties for the rest of the game. I'm guessing fictional tracks will not be touched.
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I hope thats not completely true. I want them to put little concrete block protrusions out of the walls in T1-T2 of Tokyo
 
Well if nothing else it shows the cutting didn’t gain anyone much, the times are very similar to yesterday’s daily without the barriers
 
Venster
Well if nothing else it shows the cutting didn’t gain anyone much, the times are very similar to yesterday’s daily without the barriers
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I'd say it's around 2 tenths lost in Sector 1, also the very fast guys haven't set times yet and I had to turn the brightness right up so I could actually see anything :lol:
 
Venster
Well if nothing else it shows the cutting didn’t gain anyone much, the times are very similar to yesterday’s daily without the barriers
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Imo these new barriers increase your laptime in about 0.5s if you cut every single corner you could without them.
 
Venster
Well if nothing else it shows the cutting didn’t gain anyone much, the times are very similar to yesterday’s daily without the barriers
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Track is around 3 tenths slower than normal. I've done a 2:02,751 and that's at the moment the fastest time worldwide. My personal best here without the barriers is a 2:02,456. In sector one I lose around 0.150 and in sector it's around the same.
 
mthomas_95
The track barriers we've all been waiting for!



You can extend past the turn 4 exit barriers and not trigger a penalty in practice hotlaps, but in quali and races going on that red section should get you a penalty as before.
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Just needs the appropriate damage model for hitting them and they're done.

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What baffles me is that Maggiore is a fantasy track, meaning they could've designed the turns from the start to minimize cutting in the first place.
 

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