Nissan GT-R - Haters gonna hate...

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I hate it because its a fanboy car. No matter what PP you are racing at online, theres ALWAYS a GTR, (race cars, road cars, 450 - 700pp, always a GTR..)

I don't think its better or worse than other cars. I've lost to them, and I've beat them, both numerous times. The reason I don't like it is if everyone in the server has a GT500 car, there is ALWAYS some idiot in a GTR that has too much HP for its pp but cannot corner like the rest of us. So he will either crash someone out, maintain 1st and slow everyone down (GTR always takes 1st off the grid) or so on

Also, go into any drag room, 90% GTR's

For freaks sake, theres over 1000 cars in this game people..
 
These GT-R's are very good but they are beatable by several other road cads easily, 3 sring to mind strait away Mclaren F1, Nissan 390 raod car and the tommykiaraZZ11. Now the DLC R35FC is another story that really does take the cake and eat it.
 
TiZzla
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS THREAD.

I regard the GTR as the king of all road cars. ALL road cars.

The r35 GTR is my dream car, and I WILL own one when I'm older. By the time I can afford one the latest version of the R35 would have been released and it will probably have 600+hp and kill every one of it's competitors.

The reason that I think the car is so amazing is not just that it has incredible performance, but because it has things that all of it's competition doesn't:

-The price, it is far cheaper than it's competition, its main rival the 911 turbo is like 4 times more expensive! And the GTR's 0-60 time is like 0.1 slower.

-The space, it is a four seater! AND it has a decent sized trunk. Most of it's competitors are 2 seaters with hardly any storage space.

-The comfort. The GTR can be a daily driver quite comfortably. If your not driving it fast it's quiet and smooth on the road. Heck even when your thrashing it it's pretty quiet. The interior is also very comfortable and it doesn't feel like your driving a race car.

And the styling, a lot of people think it's ugly. But I love it. I love that it looks different. It looks very aggressive, but also anyone who doesn't know what it is would have no idea that this car will slaughter those fancy f430 ferraris etc...

It's just an amazing engineering feat. I mean it's almost magical. It weighs more and has less power than it's competition yet it still beats them! All this for a fraction of the price too!

And yes I have driven one, and it literally took my breath away. I've also been in a f430, and it's nothing but a shiny show off mobile.

And the reason it's so fast in GT5 is because it handles so damn well that your laps are near perfect so of course your lap time will be fast. It's so easy to drive fast. It's so stable, that's why it seems boring. But trust me if you drive one in real life where you can feel the G forces it's anything but boring.
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I think your assessment is spot on, and why most of the criticism is actually "envy" derived.

The GTR is a modern day "muscle car", with much more than "straitline" attributes.

An exotic supercar in a sedan body.

It's performance so refined, it's minus the quirks usually found in comparable cars.

Sorry, but I have to give credit where credit is due.

Its legitimately difficult "finding fault", with such an outstanding example of innovative automotive practicality.
 
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Mark
Did you not even check before making incorrect statements, Which is against the AUP. And where did i say they were the same pp ?
Oh sorry your one of those people that shouts there mouth of about things you dont have a clue about.

http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=708

http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=688
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Tested with the GT-R '07 but even that is close to that pp range it seems: No need to panic :p

Edit: And two out of the three cars were still over the pp range of both GT-R versions so really you should calm down...
 
Sohvakettu
Tested with the GT-R '07 but even that is close to that pp range it seems: No need to panic :p

Edit: And two out of the three cars were still over the pp range of both GT-R versions so really you should calm down...
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I dont need to calm down, go tune your GT-r to the same PP still wont stand a chance.:) Even the R390 at a lower PP will trounce it, and the ZZII fully tuned against the Spec V fully tuned will murder it with over 100bhp less.

Edit : please dont think in knocking the GT-R, Im not Im stating a fact that its nowhere near the fastest road car ingame untuned or fully tuned. And yes I do have several and enjoy them as well.
 
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Neither am i claiming GT-R supremacy. More of SLS and S2000 fanboy myself. :)
I just think that comparing it to it's real life rivals to be more productive. You might be right as I don't have much experience about max tuning or downtuning cars so i can't really say much about that topic. Valid points though as many people do do that. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :)
 
TiZzla
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS THREAD.

I regard the GTR as the king of all road cars. ALL road cars.

The r35 GTR is my dream car, and I WILL own one when I'm older. By the time I can afford one the latest version of the R35 would have been released and it will probably have 600+hp and kill every one of it's competitors.

The reason that I think the car is so amazing is not just that it has incredible performance, but because it has things that all of it's competition doesn't:

-The price, it is far cheaper than it's competition, its main rival the 911 turbo is like 4 times more expensive! And the GTR's 0-60 time is like 0.1 slower.

-The space, it is a four seater! AND it has a decent sized trunk. Most of it's competitors are 2 seaters with hardly any storage space.

-The comfort. The GTR can be a daily driver quite comfortably. If your not driving it fast it's quiet and smooth on the road. Heck even when your thrashing it it's pretty quiet. The interior is also very comfortable and it doesn't feel like your driving a race car.

And the styling, a lot of people think it's ugly. But I love it. I love that it looks different. It looks very aggressive, but also anyone who doesn't know what it is would have no idea that this car will slaughter those fancy f430 ferraris etc...

It's just an amazing engineering feat. I mean it's almost magical. It weighs more and has less power than it's competition yet it still beats them! All this for a fraction of the price too!

And yes I have driven one, and it literally took my breath away. I've also been in a f430, and it's nothing but a shiny show off mobile.

And the reason it's so fast in GT5 is because it handles so damn well that your laps are near perfect so of course your lap time will be fast. It's so easy to drive fast. It's so stable, that's why it seems boring. But trust me if you drive one in real life where you can feel the G forces it's anything but boring.
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Exactly, I can't find any fault with the GT-R. This car is just awesome! Bang for buck!
 
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I've got the answer. It's a troll car, because of it being so easy to drive :rolleyes:. I don't know how people can say that to justify the GT-R as a bad car.

The reason of this thread is to ask how do people think the GT-R is a crap car.

Well, it's a perfect car.


CyKosis1973
I'm just talking about in-game, and you'll find your answer below ;)



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Apparently, not lol.

Either way, it's one of the best in terms of performance. That's all that I was speaking of.
 
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It doesn't bore me. Love the thing. Boring for me is a car that won't go.
 
I love the GTR. Very easy car to drive fast but it's not the most fun. It does make you feel like superman in game as it does in real life from what I've heard.

Btw guess you guys don't keep up to date with Ring times. The list posted a few pages back is missing a few cars. The LFA and ACR new time.

LFA IS 7:14 and the Viper ACR's time is 7:12. They both cremate the 2012 GTR, ZR1, Porsche 911 GT2 RS etc at the Ring. Again just a half day and a few laps of the Ring to get that 7:12. I think as great as the GTR is it's not the only car that out performs the hyper exotics at a much cheaper price. Btw the 2012 Z06 also beats the 2012 GTR around the Ring if I'm not mistaken. It tied the old ACR's 7:22 time I think. I love fast cars regardless of name brand. The GTR is not the only impressive hyper exotic killer out there at a comparatively affordable price.
 
How the F. cares about Ring Times? :D
I love the Nordschleife, practically grew up in the Region (born and raised in Adenau) but really the Time Attack on the Nordschleife has become sooooo boring and annoying.

I don't really give a flying damn about it, if the cars goes around the Nordschleife in under 7:30 Minutes. Nice little feature, but that's it.


On Topic:

I really like the GT-R. In terms of performance the car is really a bargain in this class.
Looks is a matter of taste, and everyone defines taste different. I like the look of the car, but I don't really care if someone doesn't.

Simple as that. Besides it's kinda stale that these discussion still go on and on about the GT-R about how great and bad this car is.
 
Lol. I agree to a point about Ring times. From what I've noticed over the years on various car forums, Ring time only matters when the forums or groups favorite car is atop the list. Once that car get knocked off, especially if it's a beating, then Ring times no longer matter lol. That being said it's an incredible feat to get under 8 secs on the Green Hell.

Any car under that is seriously fast. I'm still amazed at the old NSX-R with that comparitively flabby 290hp running a 7:56 way back when. Tying the C5 Z06 which had 405 hp and similar weight. Ring times are not the end all be all because of all the variables involved but they are still noteworthy and relevant in my humble opinion. The Nurb really exposes a cars weaknesses and conversely showcases a cars abilities as in the case of the NSX-R, GTR, ZR1, ACR etc.
 
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mattythedog
Id just like to point out Nissan hugely underclaim power. They say it has around 470 BHP, but I read in a car magazine that they took it to a dynamo, and it actually produced 515 BHP. Thats a contributing factor.
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Just read that and had a major :lol:

That is absolutly normal. You want your marque to be represented in the best way.

In terms of performance would you really give a slightly less powerful car there?
All manufacturers do that. It's the same with workmanship, they give a very good worked car there, so the quality is at it's best. Or for fuel economy they will give the less powerful version to the test.

Simple as that.

@Snakebitten:

it's an incredible feat to get under 8 secs on the Green Hell.
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A good friend of mine has a Renault Clio 2.0 RS Cup and runs around 8:20 around :D

Ring time only matters when the forums or groups favorite car is atop the list. Once that car get knocked off, especially if it's a beating, then Ring times no longer matter lol
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Unfornatelly on YouTube (especially) the bitching continues on and on.
Best example the latest Lap Record of the ACR. Yes, it's fast but not the fastest car. The Gumpert Apollo is still the fastest car around the track, and then everybody started complaining, that this car cannot be "street legal" and always stated that the ACR is the fastest.

They see to forget that this Viper used a shortend transmission, so wasn't really a "stock" car.
 
True. it's called a ringer in automotive media. Seen this for decades in the auto press. I'll never forget the Ford GT Fomoco sent to Motortrend to go up against the Enzo and Carrera GT. It did low 11's and trapped 131mph tying the CGT. Needless to say none of the customers vehicles came close to those numbers bonestock in RL lol. It's part of the game mfg's play with the public.
 
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@Snakebitten:



A good friend of mine has a Renault Clio 2.0 RS Cup and runs around 8:20 around :D



Unfornatelly on YouTube (especially) the bitching continues on and on.
Best example the latest Lap Record of the ACR. Yes, it's fast but not the fastest car. The Gumpert Apollo is still the fastest car around the track, and then everybody started complaining, that this car cannot be "street legal" and always stated that the ACR is the fastest.

They see to forget that this Viper used a shortend transmission, so wasn't
really a "stock" car.
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What? Who told you the transmission wasn't stock??? This was a 2010 Viper ACR that did the 7:12 not the old 2008 ACR that had trouble at the Ring because it wasn't geared for a track like the Ring. That first run exposed the ACR gearing as not good for this track. So for 2010, the last year the ACR was produced, the gave it the appropriate gearing that allowed it to use 5th gear. That and some Aero changes were new factory stock upgrades for 2010. So it's a bonestock off the showroom car that did the 7:12. Man the Internet can mislead folks sometimes.

Your friend is fast to run a 8:20 with that car. Very good but I'm sure that's after a LOT of practice. He should replace Von Shaurma as Ring driver :-)
 
Snakebitten
Your friend is fast to run a 8:20 with that car. Very good but I'm sure that's after a LOT of practice. He should replace Von Shaurma as Ring driver :-)
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Did research and you're right. Sorry. But, the car did this lap on Semi - Slicks, but meh. Don't really care.

Edith says: Yes, he has did about 100 Rounds over it. I have done about 30 - 35 Rounds over it.
 
Gumpert Apollo is still king of the street cars time wise on the Ring. I still don't get why Dodge insists on just half day runs for the Viper at the Ring. Everyone else does weeks to months to years. I'd imagine it would go faster with more time like everyone else.

I ignore YouTube commentors for the most part. Some of the most ignorant drivel you will find on the net.
 
I don't consider the GT-R to be a troll car, at least in real life.

But in the game it is one of the easiest cars to throw around and get away with it.

That said, to those that say it is a troll car...What's stopping you from getting into your own GT-R and troll them?
 
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Did research and you're right. Sorry. But, the car did this lap on Semi - Slicks, but meh. Don't really care.
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Dude PS2's are Far from semi slicks. Not getting at you specifically but why does the Viper cause this much devaluing of it's achievement so much more than any other car I've seen including the GTR.

When the 2012 Z06 and ZR1 both used these same PS2's as the Viper to run a 7:22 and 7:18 respectively no one devalued those runs because of the tire choice and added aero in the case of the ZR1. Also the Porsche GT2 and GT3 both use this tire if I read correctly and there was no uproar over tire etc when the GT2 RS blazed a 7:18 time. I never understand the logic. I guess the Viper is just one of those cars that polorize people badly lol. You either love it or hate it with a passion lol.

Back OT. Yes Godzilla is [tony the tiger]GREAT!!![/tony the tiger]
 
The ACR did the lap (as any other lap) on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup.
Which are Semi - Slicks. Period.

Or as Michelin says "The fastest Racing Tyre with Street homologation"

Not getting at you specifically but why does the Viper cause this much devaluing of it's achievement so much more than any other car I've seen including the GTR.
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Oh, that's easy to answer. Because a lot of people either don't want to hear, that the car has done this lap on Semi Slicks, has an adjustable Aerodynamic Kit AND still isn't the fastest car around the track.

Oh, and they needed Dominik Fahrbacher, and not a magazine author. Give Dom the Gumpert and your jaw will drop! :D
 
20832
The ACR did the lap (as any other lap) on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup.
Which are Semi - Slicks. Period.

Or as Michelin says "The fastest Racing Tyre with Street homologation"



Oh, that's easy to answer. Because a lot of people either don't want to hear, that the car has done this lap on Semi Slicks, has an adjustable Aerodynamic Kit AND still isn't the fastest car around the track.

Oh, and they needed Dominik Fahrbacher, and not a magazine author. Give Dom the Gumpert and your jaw will drop! :D
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:D and the excuses continue to mount up. hilarious. How bout you answer the part about why you don't get at the Vette or the GT2 RS for using those tires :sly:
 
I'm not getting at any car :lol:
Not that I expect you to see that.

I'm not one of those "fanboys" (don't know any other word for this) who desperatly try to defend a cars time!
Even though for this I can quote yourself for this

Lol. I agree to a point about Ring times. From what I've noticed over the years on various car forums, Ring time only matters when the forums or groups favorite car is atop the list. Once that car get knocked off, especially if it's a beating, then Ring times no longer matter lol
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So why even bother to defend this?
The Gumpert Apollo also did the lap on Semi - Slicks.

The Viper is fast, yes. Depending an all the things it has It definetly should be this fast.


Bottom line is:
The car is a production car, but not the fastest. It has this and this things on it, so why not accepting the fact, that the car wouldn't be as fast as with these things?

The GT-R wouldn't be as fast with RWD, the Vette wouldn't be as fast if it had a Aluminium Body and the GT2 RS wouldn't be this fast without 620HP and mechanical Grip.

Get over it.
 
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And the fanboy comment finally rears it's ugly head. I get you now. You fought it as long as you could. But I just hit you with too many facts you couldn't refute so you resort to this nonsensical "get over it" post lol.

Ok back to topic:
 

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