Nissan Silvia Fan Club

[Jay]

even if ya do have good mechanical knowledge, a lot of things go wrong but you can fix or work you way around it

 

[Dark Skyline]

yeah, thats fine, if you can afford the trial and error prosses. If you just try and learn on your own by figuring out stuff, you are most likly going to break or damage parts, which sometimes can prove to be very expensive.

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by Dark Skyline
yeah, thats fine, if you can afford the trial and error prosses. If you just try and learn on your own by figuring out stuff, you are most likly going to break or damage parts, which sometimes can prove to be very expensive.

Exactly

 

[RHS13]

Originally posted by silviadrifter
That's all good if you have some kind of automotive or mechanical knowledge. However if you have never done it before. A lot can go wrong, and it will. I know, I have done a swap before. It's just pure ignorance to say that everyone should do it themselves. Some people just do not have the knowledge to do such a project. It takes time to gain that knowledge, and if you have the time and patience to learn, then by all means do it, but otherwise, have someone help, preferably a mechanic.

OPINION:

Those people do not deserve to modify any vehicle. If you are not up for learning HOW a modification works, there is no way on earth that you can take full advantage of it.

Originally posted by Dark Skyline
yeah, thats fine, if you can afford the trial and error prosses. If you just try and learn on your own by figuring out stuff, you are most likly going to break or damage parts, which sometimes can prove to be very expensive.

horrible logic. If money is a constraint, then why are you paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for a stranger to install things into your car. It will be far cheaper in the long run to buy some tools, so a small amount of research, and do it yourself.

-Matt

 

[Dark Skyline]

Originally posted by RHS13
OPINION:

horrible logic. If money is a constraint, then why are you paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for a stranger to install things into your car. It will be far cheaper in the long run to buy some tools, so a small amount of research, and do it yourself.

-Matt

well, if your going to pay that kind of money on a mechanic, why use it on a complete stranger, why not go to one you are well familiar with or someone that someone else recommends too you. Also, I dont car how much you research somthing, you are going to run into problems if you are not experienced at it. Horrible logic? Its a true fact.Also, think about it, with the cost of the engine and the replacment parts of the ones that you might break, that might add up to more than a mechanic.

 

[pRaHjeC]

personally, even though i have enough knowledge to swap an engine (i helped my friend put a B16b into his 98 civic hatch), i'd rather have a mechanic do it, just to be sure it's done right the first time.

 

[Ethix101]

Your best bet is probably:

A) If you're doing it yourself, get a front clip. If you buy just the engine, there are going to be parts that won't come with it that you'll need. This might still happen with a clip, but to a lesser extent.

B) Find somebody in your area who has done a swap to help you. Offer them like $100, beer, and pizza and you can probably get a few guys to help you. That way you'll still be learning as you go along, but you'll have somebody with experience to help you if you have a problem.

C) If the above aren't possible, I would take it to a shop. Yes, you're probably going to pay $500-$1000 just on installation, but IMO that's a hell of a lot better than screwing something up and having to buy new parts.



-Mark

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by RHS13
OPINION:

Those people do not deserve to modify any vehicle. If you are not up for learning HOW a modification works, there is no way on earth that you can take full advantage of it.

Well, I believe that is a little extreme, but I do know where your coming from. I personally I don't mind doing the research, and I have. However, I do agree, that if you don't have any drive to learn and understand the process, you shouldn't be thinking about engine swaps.

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by Ethix101
Your best bet is probably:

B) Find somebody in your area who has done a swap to help you. Offer them like $100, beer, and pizza and you can probably get a few guys to help you. That way you'll still be learning as you go along, but you'll have somebody with experience to help you if you have a problem.

Good advice, Ethix. 👍

I smoked ou..........Er...I mean I Gave some money to a friend to help me install a full exhaust system, and Ignition system, on my old 92' Corrado VR6. He taught me quite a bit.

 

[bldblk]

I have some mechanical knowlege. Also I planned on installing it myself. Its a side project of sorts and just something to mess around with.

 

[S13Redtop]

You couldn't ask for an easier swap!!! But honestly I got mine done with a friend who did his. We did it right the first time. Get a friend and do it. Pay a little($200) now and save yourself a LOT of hassle and dough later. Once they are in it is totally on! They r so reliable and the power to wieght ratio is ridiculous. I am getting the s14 ball bearing and a greddy fmic, high 11's or low 12's. Handling, reliability, power, and sweetness in one package!!

Do it with a friend so you can learn, and not rely so much on a mechanic.

 

[bldblk]

Thats really what I planned on doing.
Thanks for all who helped.

 

[pRaHjeC]

is a KA24 tranny compatible with the SR20? i'm asking cuz i've found some pretty good deals on the motor, but it doesnt come with a tranny.

 

[bldblk]

Thats another thing I was wondering. I would rather switch to the 6 speed tranny though.

 

[FusionS2000]

well the only SR20 thats a 6 speed is the S15 SR20, i dont think the S13 and S14's are 6's

 

[Jay]

S13 & S14 5 speed gearbox's are weak be careful with them (especialy third)

 

[FusionS2000]

well could you take a S13 Sr20 and put the S15 tranny on it? I mean its the same motor.

 

[bldblk]

I would imagine you could. But I've never really heard of anyone doing that.

 

[Jay]

yes you can do that, but 6 speed SR20 box's are expensive, some people have made custom bell housings for the RB25DET gearbox (very strong box) on a SR20

 

[XzifT]

But some people dump RB26's directly into silvias.

 

[Jay]

RB20DET or RB25DET (mainly RB20)conversions are alot more common due to price

 

[XzifT]

"Some people." I think I should've phrased it "Some rich people from Japan who are kinda crazy"..

 

[S13Redtop]

9 outta 10 conversions into a 240sx are sr motors. Not the rb25 or 26. There really is no point. Unless u want your ride to be hitting 9's then I could understand. But on the stock sr20det motor that does use the same tranny as the ka motor you will be smokin everything, garunteed.

With the $ you would put into a rb motor you could put the same $ into the sr and have b just as fast...

Unless top speed is your thing...go with the sr swap easier, cheaper, and parts are so easy to find...

s13, s14 ar 5 speeds
s15 is a 6 speed, and every part in 240/sr'ed 240 are solid. Especially 3rd gear!!

 

[FusionS2000]

well you said the KA tranny would fit the SR20, would the KA tranny be a good one (gear ratio) wise?

 

[S13Redtop]

The silvia and the 240sx use the same tranny. So yes, it would be. The trans can take up to 400hp easily. Mine is from a ka that had 160k on it. I would say to def use the stock 240sx one.

 

[FusionS2000]

cool, thanks for that info.

I just wish I could find a good (low mileage, and no problems) SR20 for under 1000 bucks.

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by S13Redtop
The silvia and the 240sx use the same tranny. So yes, it would be. The trans can take up to 400hp easily. Mine is from a ka that had 160k on it. I would say to def use the stock 240sx one.

Sweet! Thanks for the info! It is greatly appreciated.
I'm in the process of selling my current car (91' VW Jetta GLI Wolfsburg edition), and buying another S13 coupe (I used to own a 91' coupe), or an RPS13 (Hatch). I was thinking of doing the SR20 swap, so this info saves me some trouble, and money.

S13Redtop, would you mind if I added you to my buddy list? I am in need of people with Nissan knowledge, to help with basic info, on my S13 project.

 

[S13Redtop]

No problem, I will help out as much as possible. Good luck guys, I promise it would be worth it.

School all these honda folk...

 

[FusionS2000]

well the KA schools most of them stock as it is, Ive lost to 3 hondas, a Supercharged Si, an LS turbo, and an H22 Turbo Hatch those are it.

 

[bldblk]

Yea the Ka is a nice stock engine for beating stock honda people who claim then have this and that.
I dunno if any of you have seen these but they make this little Calvin, from Calvin and Hobbs, stickers with him releaving himself on things.
I want on that has him either doing that on Honda in bold letters, or FWD.