Nissan vs. Toyota

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Toyota or Nissan?

  • Toyota

    Votes: 16 21.1%

  • Nissan

    Votes: 60 78.9%
  • Total voters
    76
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Hey there. I am in a debate with one of my friends and I was wondering what your input is.

I drive a 1971 Datsun 510 4-door and my dad owns a 1978 Datsun 620 pickup and a 1970 Datsun 510 wagon. I really like the Datsuns/Nissan cars because they look pretty cool, are pretty reliable, and have good variety. Also Datsuns can last FOREVER!

My friend, on the other hand says that Datsuns are "ok" but Nissans are complete crud and Toyotas are the best. He has driven a Toyota 4-runner for about 3 years and then he rear-ended someone at about 30 mph and totalled his car. He then drove his mothers 80s Nissan Pathfinder (which had seen quite a bit of abuse in its 20 some-odd years) so I feel the argument is a little biased on both sides.

I was wondering what you guys think about the Toyota vs. Nissan
 
Toyota actually did pretty bad in a recent durability test.

I also love Z's so I voted for Datsun/Nissan.
 
One thing I like about where I live is that it is a spot where there are a lot of Zs. There is a Datsun Z specialist in my hometown. check out DatsunZ.com to see some of their works...
 
I have to go with Nissan. Toyota deserves to die one hundred thousand painful deaths for what they've done to themselves and for all of their current hubris.

In this case, Nissan all the way.
 
It's a toughy. Both Nissan and Toyota have made a fair few cars I really like, but at the same time, Nissan have never really wowed me for some reason. I'd pick Toyota by default then for things like the Celicas, MR2s, AE86s all of which appeal to me a lot more than anything Nissan has made.

It's a reluctant choice though because I'd pick a Honda or a Mazda ahead of either any day of the week...
 
Until Toyota makes more than one affordable, interesting model, (and they don't even make one at current,) I'll have to go with Nissan.
 
Voted Nissan because I technically own one (Infiniti) and because Toyota has really gone down hill. Reliability is one thing, but even style wise they've lost whatever variety they had. Plus, I've heard from a lot of transmission people around here that Nissan is usually at the fore-front of quality in transmissions, which in my opinion is one of the things that matter most.
 
I'm not biased by either, even though I am a Toyota owner. I reckon both have their merits. But I will put this fact down.

Toyota all the way when it comes to power. 2JZ > ANY RB or VQ motor. :cool: But Nissan DOES make better brakes than Toyota....I have R33 calipers on my Cressy because the standard ones just wouldn't cut it....not to mention the R33 was bolt on to my current brake lines. :p

SRV2LOW4ME, did you just say that Nissan has reliable gearboxes??.......:lol:. Tell the R35 owners that they have a reliable gearbox. ;) Oooh, I can't use Launch Control because it will break my gearbox at WOT within 10 runs. Just today (well, now yesterday...it's 1am here), I got a call from a mate asking for my Nissan connections to source cheap driveline parts (clutch, gearbox) for an S15. :lol: A lot of drifters of S15's swap back to S14 gearboxes because the S15's is weak, very weak.

When it comes to the older cars like the Datto 1600 or TA22 Celica, then I would happily take one of each. Then add an SR20DET to the Datto and a 3S-GTE to the Celica. ;)
 
At the moment, I'd say neither. I really can't think of a single car either company produces that I'd actually want to spend my own money on. Sure, there are some good models available, but not good enough when compared to the competition.

Wind the clock back a bit when both liked to produce cars and its still a fairly even draw. While I have said repeatedly in the past that I dislike Toyotas, despite owning one myself, they made some fairly stand-out products during the '80s and '90s. The same can be said with Nissan, then Datsun for a time, but that largely depended on where you were from and what you were looking for.

In the end, it comes down to a four-model comparison...

Toyota:
Celica All-Trac/GT-FOUR
Celica-Supra
Corolla GT-S (E90)
Tacoma X-Runner (Yeah! I said it!)

Nissan:
Z33
Maxima (back in the 4DSC days)
Sentra SE-R (B13)
Hardbody (wooO!)

In the end, I'd have to take a Toyota. When they cared, they did it right.
 
Oh yeah, by the way, My family also owns a 2007 Toyoa Camry SE (Auto). The throttle on it is very finnicky. From a dead stop, you start pressing it, and theres nothing, and then it just lurches. Its a little irritating. The rides OK. The turning radius is just HORRIBLE! It feels like I'm steering a tank, not a mid-size sedan! Also there was a design problem on it or something, and the seals were messed up or something, and it actually leaked when it rains! I think my dad fixed that though. My family owns a 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid, which was a heck of a lot more fun to drive! We actually are leasing it to my aunt, so I drove it 400 miles to Southern California, where she lives. That was actually fun! Also learned stick on an 07 Civic, which was nice to drive. I honestly like my Datsun a little more than the civic though, but it's out of commission, because my RR tire is flat and my RF is balding (RF has had 2 nails in it since at the latest, March).
 
Leadfoot53
Oh yeah, by the way, My family also owns a 2007 Toyoa Camry SE (Auto).
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There's your problem straight away. Even as a Toyota fan, Camry = FAIL!

Leadfoot53
The turning radius is just HORRIBLE! It feels like I'm steering a tank, not a mid-size sedan!
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And that's why it was the perfect car for NASCAR. :p

*runs from all the NASCAR fans* :scared:

:D
 
Actually, for the ovals you have to have a pretty decent turn radius. You see how in GT5P you have to let off the gas at Daytona? In a stock car you hold it wide open.
 
I've owned at least one car from all of Japan's big 4. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and Mazda. Sorry Mitsu!

My Nissan was a lot like the old Timex commercial. "Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'!"

The Honda is taking it's fair share of abuse. It was my wife's car, and now it is in the not so gentle care of one of my sons. (Which means it probably is in need of a check up, and an oil change.)

The Mazda's seem to be ok with semi-indifferent care and feeding. I'm sent off on occasion to get the oil changed and tires rotated and the check up the Ford dealer does at each oil change. The 2 '6's need tires, but otherwise are pretty good cars.
My second son's '3 is doing the Timex thing also. But he is more into the care and feeding of his car.

My Toyota must have it's oil changed every 3-5000 miles, as it is one of the models affected by the "sludge" issue. If that is done, it runs fine. However, in the five years we've owned the thing, when it needs ANYTHING more intense than an oil change and tire rotation, it costs me about $600-800.
I both love and hate my car. It's about as reliable as an anvil. It is also a soul-less commuter of the first order.
 
Yeah. Ive had 3 outta the four. I used to be really biased about Hondas because my dad worked at a Honda dealership, but now, with driving Datsuns and other cars, I feel like Honda isn't as good as I thought it was...

EDIT: Ironically I just found my five year old Timex watch that has been through a lot of stuff, and its still tickin'
 
I think Toyota is a soulless, unethical company. I say that because they have so much money that they have tried to buy their way to the top of every championship they've entered. They have very little racing DNA in their culture (some but not much). They singlehandedly destroyed open wheel racing in the US by causing the CART / IRL split. They have always been very jealous of Honda's racing heritage and youthful demographic. They have tucked their tail between their legs and fled from every series that they have been unsuccessful in. (CART / IRL / Formula 1)

You couldn't give me a Toyota 👎

I bought a new Datsun truck in 1973. I paid $2380 out the door :) (Two years later, I paid $500 more for the first Goldwing) Talk about a good value. I put 77,000 trouble free miles on it and sold it to a friend who then put another 70,000 trouble free miles on it :)

I don't have any experience with Nissans. I've had at least one or two Hondas at a time since 1981 and never had a single issue with any of them 👍
 
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Toyota is a soulless, unethical company. I say that because they have so much money that they have tried to buy their way to the top of every championship they've entered.
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If you sell enough cars like they have, you can afford to spend bucketloads on motorsport. 👍

They have very little racing DNA in their culture (some but not much).
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Yeah, they don't have much, apart from all the time spent on motorsport in the past 37 YEARS! and the numerous titles and races they've won in nearly all the different categories of motorsport. Nah, not much at all. :rolleyes: Here's some info for you....the Toyota Corolla S2000 built by Neal Bates is the FIRST S2000 car in the world to win a national rally championship, something no other manufacturer has been able to accomplish.

They singlehandedly destroyed open wheel racing in the US by causing the CART / IRL split. They have always been very jealous of Honda's racing heritage and youthful demographic. They have tucked their tail between their legs and fled from every series that they have been unsuccessful in. (CART / IRL / Formula 1)
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I'll answer that with some quotes from wikipedia.

Wikipedia
In 1996, Tony Hulman's grandson, Tony George, president of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway created the Indy Racing League (IRL), a separate championship that initially leveraged the fame of the Indianapolis 500, which saw the exclusion of many of CART's top teams from that event. The IRL's results are either listed alongside the existing national championship or treated as an entirely separate entity and not included.

In March 1996, CART filed a lawsuit against the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in an effort to protect their license to the IndyCar mark which the Indianapolis Motor Speedway had attempted to terminate. In April, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway filed a countersuit against CART to prevent them from further use of the mark. Eventually a settlement was reached in which CART agreed to give up the use of the IndyCar mark following the 1996 season and the IRL could not use the name before the end of the 2002 season.

George initially let the USAC continue to sanction the IRL, however after judging controversies at 1997 Indy 500 and Texas Motor Speedway, the USAC was replaced by the IRL's in-house officiating.

CART's existing national championship remained dominant after the split for some time, initially retaining top drivers, teams, sponsors, and fans. In 1998, CART went public and raised $100 million USD in its stock offering. However, in 2000, CART teams began to return to the Indy 500, eventually defecting to the IRL. CART also suffered negative publicity over the cancellation of the Firestone Firehawk 600 in 2001. In 2002, it lost title sponsor FedEx and engine providers Honda and Toyota to the IRL.
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In 2002, Toyota's final year in the championship, it turned things around completely from its bleak debut. Toyota won the Manufacturer's championship, 10 races, and Cristiano Da Matta rode Toyota power to the driver's championship, with Bruno Junqueira, also Toyota-powered car, finished second.
Toyota moved to the IRL IndyCar Series in 2003 and provided factory support to former CART teams Team Penske and Target Chip Ganassi Racing as well as other teams. They were one of the top engines in their first year, winning the Indianapolis 500 with Gil de Ferran and the championship with Scott Dixon.
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Yeah, they were really unsuccessful. :rolleyes: They won both titles in both CART & IRL and were not responsible for the split as you suggested as the guy who created the IRL (ie. the guys at Indy) wouldn't let CART race there. Research your 🤬 first before you make claims like you have.


You couldn't give me a Toyota 👎
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I wouldn't want to, people like yourself deserve to be stuck in Kia Rio's for the rest of their lives.
 
Well.. Sorry to say Toyota did pretty bad these days. They have massive problem with their cars reliability and designs that looks weird sometimes. Eventough I'm a BMW fan but I'd say this time, I like the GTR R35 so me, all the way to Nissan or formerly known as Datsun some times ago.
 
mafia_boy
SRV2LOW4ME, did you just say that Nissan has reliable gearboxes??.......:lol:. Tell the R35 owners that they have a reliable gearbox. ;) Oooh, I can't use Launch Control because it will break my gearbox at WOT within 10 runs. Just today (well, now yesterday...it's 1am here), I got a call from a mate asking for my Nissan connections to source cheap driveline parts (clutch, gearbox) for an S15. :lol: A lot of drifters of S15's swap back to S14 gearboxes because the S15's is weak, very weak.
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Atleast they're not switching over to Toyota drive train parts. :lol:
I'm not saying anything is facts, I'm just repeating what I've heard from a lot of employee's/owners of transmission shops, including one who was a teacher at a school.
 
mafia_boy
Yeah, they don't have much, apart from all the time spent on motorsport in the past 37 YEARS! and the numerous titles and races they've won in nearly all the different categories of motorsport. Nah, not much at all. :rolleyes: Here's some info for you....the Toyota Corolla S2000 built by Neal Bates is the FIRST S2000 car in the world to win a national rally championship, something no other manufacturer has been able to accomplish.
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Not to mention WRC before the S2000 stuff...

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When ever I think of Toyota motorsport I think of Rally and not this S2000 rubbish either. :p


mafia_boy
I wouldn't want to, people like yourself deserve to be stuck in Kia Rio's for the rest of their lives.
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Don't take peoples comments about a brand you like so personal :)
 
Toyota. it used to be awesome from seventies to mid 90's.. but then again, Nissan has just one car that puts everything that Toyota has ever made in shame.. argh, I can't vote on this. too many things to consider..
 

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