***Nissman's Super GT500 Lobby***

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Nissman, I believe you are in the same race team as my pal Eric/Solar :D.
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Yes indeed he is IRT member. One of the fastest of course. :)
 
nissman
The times are from Fuji F. We just had another race and Piket/tony1311 did 1.30.6xx :crazy:
You have to know there are big differences in driver skills in this game, thats why we call some drivers aliens. You have to practice a lot and most important IMO is talent.
You should join our casual racing room sometimes, save replay from some race and check the gearing and driving lines from the best drivers, it should help you to get atleast a second.👍
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I'll look for the room sometime Nissman. I know I've got some work to do with tuning, because even when I'm winning online, I do notice even the less skilled drivers that I beat have advantages in certain areas and it mostly revolves around being able to get the power down out of the corners earlier and sometimes higher cornering speeds at times. I just can't for the life of me get around those times at Fuji F...lol...I'll have another go at it on the weekend.

Are all the makes of cars relatively close to the 1:31's or is there one that stands out? I have one of each pretty much so I could focus on one maybe and that might help, although I have noticed there is less than a second difference for me with all of them at Trial Mountain.

Oh and just so there's no mistaking where I'm coming from, it bugs the crap out of me knowing there is someone out there more skilled and faster than I am...lol. I want to be the best at everything I do and this is no exception. Obviously I have a lot more to learn than I thought and no better place than to learn from the best. I don't want to be referred to as an alien...lol
 
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I would love to join you guys,is it ok if I drive a 1997 Castrol Tom's Supra?
And just to ask,wouldnt hard tyres be more realistic?
Would love to race with you guys,when is the next session?
 
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phil bell
I would love to join you guys,is it ok if I drive a 1997 Castrol Tom's Supra?
And just to ask,wouldnt hard tyres be more realistic?
Would race with you guys,when is the next session?
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If You would drive with Racing Hards 1´49 times at Suzuka
which is lap record for GT500 cars, It would be more realistic
yes.👍

Heres a link from 2010 Suzuka qualis--> http://supergt.net/supergt/2010/1001/1001qual_e.htm

GT500 track record---> http://supergt.net/supergt/circuit/suzuka/circen_suzuka.htm
 
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RamoSapiens
1´49 times at Suzuka
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In reality they are 2 sec faster than the bets time in GT5 I heard off.

Johnnypenso
I'll look for the room sometime Nissman. I know I've got some work to do with tuning, because even when I'm winning online, I do notice even the less skilled drivers that I beat have advantages in certain areas and it mostly revolves around being able to get the power down out of the corners earlier and sometimes higher cornering speeds at times. I just can't for the life of me get around those times at Fuji F...lol...I'll have another go at it on the weekend.
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I can give you the tune if you want but mostly you'll have to work on your driving skills.

Are all the makes of cars relatively close to the 1:31's or is there one that stands out? I have one of each pretty much so I could focus on one maybe and that might help, although I have noticed there is less than a second difference for me with all of them at Trial Mountain.
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I think you can do 31's with all premium SuperGT cars if driven well.

With 532 hp the record in Trial Mountian is 1.14.8xx. :dopey:

Oh and just so there's no mistaking where I'm coming from, it bugs the crap out of me knowing there is someone out there more skilled and faster than I am...lol. I want to be the best at everything I do and this is no exception. Obviously I have a lot more to learn than I thought and no better place than to learn from the best. I don't want to be referred to as an alien...lol
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Dont worry to much mate, as the very known saying on this forum goes ''Remember, there will always be someone faster than you''

Cold truth...:ouch: :)
 
nissman
Best Laps from previous season:

Fuji -- 1.32.5xx
Laguna Seca -- 1.17.7xx
Deep Forest -- 1.04.9xx :crazy:
Cape Ring South -- 1.06.7xx
Suzuka - 1.52.1xx
Trial Mountian -- 1.15.9xx

You have to know this times are crazy, only the best drivers in the world manage them. So if you're 1 sec slower you are still very fast. 👍



Thinking about it for a while now...
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you guys did 1.04.9xx on Deep Forest with stock GT500 cars (532 HP limit? Wasn't Z's HP limit after oil change and engine breakdown 546 HP/CV or somesuch?)?

It's honestly very hard to believe without exploiting some sort of glitch/cheat (clutch abuse, transmission glitch, custom firmwares, custom peripherals, etc.), track's pretty short and there's very few corners which don't leave much room for creative approaches to the apex either so I don't see how you can be that many seconds faster than anybody else on "driving skill" alone (cause the set-up options are so limited it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get the best out of any car)...

...could you provide a video or replay file please? Replay of the race perhaps? I'm kinda curious.
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Sure Niss I'll take any tune I can find on any car. I've got the Lexus, couple of Supra's, NSX, GTR, Z's etc. I'll try anything. Don't know crap about tuning beyond the basics and some stuff I find online works well for me, like a tune I picked up for my RM Lotus, and other stuff does not.

When it comes to driving skills, I picked up most of mine driving karts off and on over the years but who knows how well that translates to real cars. Maybe not so well...lol. I was pretty good though, Canadian Champ one year, top 6 in North American Championships (Scott Goodyear was only second so it was no slouch field) so I understand apexs, power on understeer, trail braking all the usual stuff. How well I execute is another question...lol.

Got lots to learn...happy to do it!!
 
C.D
you guys did 1.04.9xx on Deep Forest with stock GT500 cars (532 HP limit? Wasn't Z's HP limit after oil change and engine breakdown 546 HP/CV or somesuch?)?

It's honestly very hard to believe without exploiting some sort of glitch/cheat (clutch abuse, transmission glitch, custom firmwares, custom peripherals, etc.), track's pretty short and there's very few corners which don't leave much room for creative approaches to the apex either so I don't see how you can be that many seconds faster than anybody else on "driving skill" alone (cause the set-up options are so limited it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get the best out of any car)...

...could you provide a video or replay file please? Replay of the race perhaps? I'm kinda curious.
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I don't get how you could possibly say we're cheating in any way. We weren't born yesterday, we are commited GT racers and well known in the community. It's at least disrespectful questioning our integrity.👎

For the history: The laptime of 1'04.9 was run with bone stock Calsonic R35,oil change + breaking in-->518 hp. With 532hp ,i believe <1'04.5xx is possible. Also,the lap was run in online mode,not in A-spec practice mode with tire wear. Practice mode can produce significantly better laptimes.
 
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I don't get how you could possibly say we're cheating in any way. We weren't born yesterday, we are commited GT racers and well known in the community. It's at least disrespectful questioning our integrity.👎

For the history: The laptime of 1'04.9 was run with bone stock Calsonic R35,oil change + breaking in-->518 hp. With 532hp ,i believe <1'04.5xx is possible. Also,the lap was run in online mode,not in A-spec practice mode with tire wear. Practice mode can produce significantly better laptimes.
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I didn't mean to be disrespectful (although I don't really give a flying duck either way), however, since I run a Super GT series on another forum I try to keep myself up-to-date on possible exploits so that I can try and catch those who attempt to cheat in my league red-handed.

In my opinion some of you guys are simply going too fast not to be exploiting some element of the game, whether it's the transmission (which is easily exploitable up to a point), the clutch with G25/27's (aka powershifting) or whatever (with custom firmwares there's practically no boundaries and then there's custom peripherals such as modded driving wheels, shifters, etc.), there's got to be something you know that the vast majority of the playerbase ignores seeing as there's no way you can run 1.04's in online public lobbies with a stock '08 GT-R and rubberbanding/draft set on off (...and I seriously doubt you allowed such feature) on your own merit, no matter how you look at it.

So I'm asking ya, one of you guys must've saved the race replay, just post it on here and lemme take a look at it, apparently you got nothing to hide so what are you afraid of?

If I end up being wrong then so be it, I'd really like to see these 1.04's with my own eyes though if you guys don't mind. 👍
 
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I tried to upload the replay from our race in Deep Forest last season but having some problems it saiz ''File has no security pin''

Anyway, there is no such thing as bug/glitch regarding tunning in GT5. We are not cheating in anyway. In that race GTP_timeattack(No1 in GT Academy USA) was running a stock Calsonic GTR '08 518hp. Lap 1.04.9xx was done about 40 laps into the race while he was on empty tank, he pitted for fresh tyres and made a perfect lap that only a few people on the planet can do. It will hurt you when a manage to upload the replay and you will see for your self how slow you are. :dopey:

This season we race with no tunning restriction and 532hp limit, the cars are faster. Thats why Piket said 1.04.5xx is possible and I hope Piket will take the time and make a lap for ya to see and learn how to go fast.

Fund this in our racing archives

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I'll try to upload the replay for you tommorow.
 
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lol @ nearly 80% of the grid being lapped, nice series you got there, must be really fun (ever thought of implementing a Success Ballast system, whether it's in seconds or Kg., since you got 3-4 guys who seemingly go twice as fast as anybody else?).

Anyway, I'll be waiting for the replay file cause I'm still kinda curious (not that a clean replay file proves anything either way eh, there's stuff that are just not detectable server side, that being said on such a short circuit we can prolly tell if someone's relying on some extra help by just looking at how their car behaves on track).

there is no such thing as bug/glitch regarding tunning in GT5
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There's ways to exploit tuning within the game self-imposed and hard-coded rules (although I don't really know how to make it effective, only heard of it on chans by people who weren't willing to share the knowledge for obvious reasons), besides, there's plenty of cheating going on in GT5 as in any other online videogame.

We're talking about a title that got up to 6 millions users and that runs on one of the most popular systems out there which also happens to be easily hack'able; don't be naive, it's just a matter of knowing where to look.
 
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Look mate the last time I'm replying to your messages. You are calling me a liar and a cheater. Its clear that your group of guys are so slow that it doesnt go in your head how my group is so fast. There is no bugs in tunning and we are not looking for them. I guess you are looking for bugs coz you know a lot about it.

don't be naive
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Don't be jelaous, just becouse you cant do it doesnt mean it cant be done.

Please join my room sometimes, I post the room number here and we'll see if you even know how to drive a car.
My guess is you dont have the balls to join us...:dopey:
 
nissman
Look mate the last time I'm replying to your messages. You are calling me a liar and a cheater. Its clear that your group of guys are so slow that it doesnt go in your head how my group is so fast. There is no bugs in tunning and we are not looking for them. I guess you are looking for bugs coz you know a lot about it.
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You're mistaken, I'm not calling you neither a liar nor a cheater since you got lapped as well, I'm just asking you to provide the race replay seeing as you're the organizer.

I have also already explained that since I'm the organizer of another Super GT championship I'm trying to find out if there's ways to cheat to try and catch those who attempt to do it in my league red-handed, some of your guys are suspiciously fast so I asked...not sure why you're disregarding completely my points and resorting to personal attacks though, totally unnecessary.

Don't be jelaous, just becouse you cant do it doesnt mean it cant be done.

Please join my room sometimes, I post the room number here and we'll see if you even know how to drive a car.
My guess is you dont have the balls to join us...:dopey:
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I have no interest whatsoever in joining your rooms, I got my own series in which I race with friends and people I can trust blindly and we're having loads of fun with it.

Also, being good at a videogame such as GT5 ain't exactly the highlight of my existence, so if you guys are legitly faster than me and my mates, hats off to you, I'll still be sleeping at night tho cause unlike you we play for fun and not to be able to boast on forums about how much more "skilled" than anybody else we happen to be (in fact I'm not that fast of a "virtual" driver to begin with, plenty of people are faster than me even in my tiny championship but hey, I'm still having fun nonetheless).

Why'd you get all defensive though, since you got nothing to hide can't you just post the replay of the race so that we can judge by ourselves?

Just wondering.
 
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as there's no way you can run 1.04's in online public lobbies with a stock '08 GT-R and rubberbanding/draft set on off
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This is why I'm defensive.

I'll tell you only once more why this kind of lap is possible. The likes of GTP_timeattack and Piket / Tony1311 (do some research) are one of the fastest drivers on the planet. They are competing in my league because we are friends of the days of prologue. Belive it or not guys with their skills find a second with no problem even on such a short track as Deep Forest and they lap you in a 175km race (which is race lenght in our championship) with also, no problem. But I love to race with the best and to achieve top 5 in my event is an achievement for most drivers competing that is what makes it very interesting for everyone.

to boast on forums about how much more "skilled" than anybody else we happen to be
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Again with the accusations.

The title of this thread is Nissmans Super GT 500 Lobby. Where I post my room number for casual online racing with this cars. In second post I just inform the community about our championship.

Then some member asked me for our best times. I posted them and shortly you came claiming that this times are in no way possible! Sorry mate but you asking me how we are cheating instead of how we got so good only shows me that you think you are the top driver but you are far from that.

I'll try to get you the replay today. But as you said you will still say that we are cheating because you cant see in the replay how and if we ''hacked'' the game.
 
Jeez,why can't people just accept there's someone better out there.If they ran a 1.04 just let it be and keep practicing/tuning.*facepalm*
 
LOL at this.

Also to C.D,
YES they are that fast.
 
Knowing the truth, it kind of hurts my head to read all of this rubbish. :lol: First of all, Tony and myself had put in a lot of time testing at Deep Forest to be able to dip into the 1:04's. This meant maximizing our tunes (not exploiting any glitch though...I'm not interested in that) and using every inch of the track possible. At the time I wasn't running the chassis stiffening mod (which was the only mod allowed by the series IIRC) which cost me probably 2 tenths or so around that track, so in fact I could have gone a bit faster with just 518hp. Also the new update which allows individual adjustment of each gear ratio means that it could be possible to go a bit faster also.

Deep Forest is a track that is easy to drive 9/10's at, but when you start pushing to the absolute limit it becomes a track that is very unforgiving. To achieve a 1:04.xx there you must be on the very ragged edge and extremely committed through the corners (basically balls to the wall). For example, if you have the car properly set-up you can take the last corner (very difficult, high speed corner) with just a slight lift (no braking) of the throttle, which means a lot of time can be lost in that corner alone depending on how committed you are through there.

For you (C.D) to come into this thread and question (somewhat rudely) the times we achieved just reeks of insecurity tbh. And honestly with such a doubtful mindset you have, you will likely never be able to achieve such times to begin, as you think the possible, is impossible, simply due to your lack of ability.

Basically you're acting too stubborn for you own good.
 
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I don't care about joining your league (got my own) and I honestly could care less about not being able to replicate such lap times seeing as my life doesn't exactly revolve around GT5, I'm just asking for a replay file that coincidentally has yet to be delivered despite nissman's claims (this fact alone speaks volume about your transparency imho).

Less pointless bickering and more replay files, please, if there's nothing to hide then what's the matter?

I'll keep my conclusions for myself, I just wanna see these 1.04's with my own eyes, is this asking too much?
 
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Well im in another series now but I must say that if you come to another racers thread and accuse them of using glitches and exploits then calling their time's "impossible" while continually accusing/condemning them,it is without a shadow of a doubt a blatant insult.Just accept that people can be really quick.You could also ask politely(ie;with a modicum of manners) for the replay which he already said he will post in awhile so be patient.
 
The point is, I acknowledge the fact that they're better at the game (whether they do it legitly or not is a whole different can of beans on my book though, everyone's entitled to their own opinion last I checked so big whoopediedo...besides if you take all of this too seriously in first place I got bad news for ya) *here's a cookie*, I just wanna take a look at the Deep Forest Raceway replay on my PS3.

It's all there is to it really.
 
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Opinions are one thing,accusing and insulting others is a whole other story.This is basic logic.And you just gotta wait.I dunno what's in the op's head but he probably has other stuff to do.The world does not revolve around any individual after all.Now back to the marketplace I shall go.
 
Just opened the room for casual racing.

Room Number : 1472-6118-3615-5259-0936

Ps.: C.D. come check live replay if you are so interested.
 
I'm joining your room, just a try, i'm not amazing. :grumpy: :lol:
 
Nissman dude, where's my tunes???...lol.

Looks like we got a Mexican standoff here..keep it between the lines fellas...lol.
 
Looks like I'm caught up with work for the day...at least for now. I'm gonna fire up the PS3 and look for that room Nissman, and put my limited skills and untuned vehicles on display...lol
 
CD you really need to join when we are casual racing. You will then see for yourself how fast TA, tony, nissman etc are. I see your mate also has doubts about the times. So why dont we put this too bed by yous 2 joining nissmans lobby and tony or ta will show how its done.
 
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Lobby Opened!

Room Number: 1472 - 6118 - 3701 - 4258 - 1289

If anyone is interested, there are 2 spots open for whole season in our Super GT500 championship.
 
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