No assists, a joke?

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I know I will be hung from a tree for this, but I feel it needs to be brought up.

Am I the only one who has a good laugh at all the folks around here who constantly want to remind you how they never use any assists? I'm being serious, do they even know what realism is?

I for one use assists based on which car I am driving.
Am I driving a full blown race car or am I driving a stock production vehicle.

Surely if I go down to my local Lamborghini dealership and ask to drive the Murcielago and how to turn off the assists I will be laughed at. Therefore, you better believe I turn on TCS, ASM, and ABS when driving it in GT5.
Why you may ask? Because the real 🤬 car has a full blown state-of-the-art Electronic Stability Control system.

Furthermore, do those same people understand that some race cars do indeed have a form of traction control and/or other assists?
Traction control was only banned in Formula 1 at the start of the 2008 season. That says something right there. Therefore, guess what? When I drive the F2007, yes I turn on TCS.
 
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To be honest I don't care if people use assists, I use ABS=1 on all cars and depending on the car, TCS=1. ASM is just a hindrance in my view. Different strokes and all that, just depends on the player. I think for people to assume assists = bad driver is unfair but that is the way some people are.
 
I just started playing with no aid at all execpt abs at 1. I have the game since the release and I've been playing with all aid on for a long time. At the end there was no more challenge so now I search game with no aid all. Its much more challenging and fun seriously ! I played a game online : 10 laps, 700 PP race cars and NO TC, NO SRF.. nothing.

It was awsome, in each turn you have to be gentle with the gas pedal and it made the race much more fun in my opinion.

Well, if you like to use driving assistance, keep doing it. I mean, its your choice. I think the people that always say they're not using assistance are looking for races where people doesn't use it too. Its normal, they want a fair race.

Also, in rally, i find the experience much more realistic without TC and SRF.
 
Yeah I can't drive my minolta without tcs at 2 otherwise I keep spinning and sliding. And I do that with the murcielago 640 and mclaren mp4-12c
 
If you cant drive without TC its because you always floor the gas pedal. The TCs act like a power limiter. IF you floor it with TC, it will be exactly the same as if you would put less gas without TC and you can reach better lap time without TC because sometimes it limit the speed too much.
 
I think every car should have it's own specific assists. And if a car doesn't have ABS or TCS it should be highlighted on the options menu for that car so I know which one to turn off.
 
I believe a couple people here misunderstood what I said.

I clearly said it depends on the car I am driving. Most stock production vehicles have TCS and ABS on with no easy way to turn it off unless you reprogram or change the ECU. My car for example has a ESC on/off button, but even off, ABS is still activated and so is some form of TCS. All it disables is the overly controlling stability control.

ChicoMaloXD
I think every car should have it's own specific assists. And if a car doesn't have ABS or TCS it should be highlighted on the options menu for that car so I know which one to turn off.
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Thank you for understanding what I was getting at.
 
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Biggest assist everyone seems to ignore is the super grip racing soft or racing medium tires, these are a bigger assist than most of the so-called assists that slow a lot of people down more than help.
 
In experience I always find that you endup being quicker without any aids when you master a car with them turned off then you would be if you mastered it with them turned off, certainly with the Group C and LMP cars this is the case.
 
I agree, with certain race cars I will not use any assists in order to make it more realistic. Race cars tend to be easier to control without them as well, or at least I feel they do.
 
Excluding SRF (which is just made up to make the game easier), assists are fine if you want them. I turn them off because I'm faster and feel like I have more control without them. I do run ABS 1 though my brake pedal is too touchy without it and the brakes lock barely at 1/4 pedal.
 
Is it a joke? No.

Are you a joke? Everybody can play the game the way they want.

I drive with everything turned off always, that makes me happy, makes me faster, and demands more concentration, I enjoy that.

You keep enjoying the game, and stop finding excuses to justify your way of playing...

No complexes dude...

P.S. Did you test drive a Lambo recently looking forward to get it? Cool...
 
I wasn't justifying anything. More or less pointing out that those of you driving stock production cars with all assists off are actually removing realism.
I'm just a little fed up with the arrogant attitude most of those people seem to portray as well.
I agree everyone can play the game the way they enjoy, just quit pounding their chest and always feeling the need to remind everyone how they never use any assists.
 
Not including SRF, I don't mind what aids people use. Personally, I feel they slow me down more than they help, so I turn them off. For some cars I do occasionally run with TCS on at a low setting.
 
Is there ASM in production/race cars today? If there is what distinguishes it from Traction Controls or ABS.
 
Nope, you're not the only one. I'm fairly sick of it too. The stigma associated with assists is often just used in place of name-calling. Other times it's oddly used to set up some level of additional credibility. Stating assist level is almost never relevant to discussion--this thread provides many examples.

It's at the point where it really isn't simply a case of misplaced pride anymore. While it may be true that a car can be faster without certain assists, I don't believe that's at all what this is about.
 
Assist in the game are not like the real life counterparts. For example ABS in the game is not realistic as someone else noted the game ABS reacts before the tires lock up while IRL it reacts afterward. ABS also seem to reduce some of the car weight shifting while braking. Even automatic transmission in GT5 does not act like a real auto transmission. It's just the game changing the manual transmission for you.
 
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I don't use assists. Not because it's more realistic, but because it's faster for me. Also, most of the cars I drive never came with those options. So, no, I'm not joking when I say I don't use them. Also, you won't get laughed at for asking how to turn the TCS off at a lambo dealership for several reasons. Number one, better drivers can drive faster with it off, and secondly lamborginis are very confusing on the inside. Look at how long it took Jeremy Clarkson to open the fuel filler cap on one.

Look, you use them and that's fine for you. I don't use them and that's fine for me. Peace.
 
kuyaglen
Is there ASM in production/race cars today? If there is what distinguishes it from Traction Controls or ABS.
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ASM does not exist in real life and is a GT term.

ESC is more or less and for a lack of better explanation a combination of ABS and TCS in which the car detects driver input error and corrects it via automated braking to individual wheels and steering aassitance to avoid spins. So basically, ASM. I do not believe race cars have actual ESC systems, but some do use a form of TCS and ABS.
 
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Here is two things I've noticed about these "drivers not aids/aids are for losers" dictators. First, 7 times out of 10 they are using a steering wheel which really gives them an unfair advantage against people who use controllers. Don't believe me? Just look at the leaderboards.

Second, virtually 100% of the time these dictators are using ABS and using it often in race cars that don't have ABS in real life. So, apparently they are not against all aids. HYPOCRITES! The whole bunch of them.
 
Say what you will about people being cocky, but the fact of the matter is that it's harder to drive the cars with no assists.

Plus almost every online room I enter that has skid recovery disabled has all the other aids disabled as well, so if I want to be competitive I need to know how to drive with them off.
 
I drive without assists because it's more fun and gives me more control of the car, not because of realism.
 
Ranek
Not including SRF, I don't mind what aids people use. Personally, I feel they slow me down more than they help, so I turn them off. For some cars I do occasionally run with TCS on at a low setting.
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I agree with Tommy and Ranek on this. Skid recovery force is a fictional aid that doesn't exist in real life. I mean, until they develop tires that magically increase their grip when they're about to slide, it's fake. Also, SRF is the one aid you can actually use to drive faster through a corner.
 

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