No way these timings in suzuka

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OP, mate, I'm a MESS at suzuka, an absolute mess, and my fastest time is a 2.05.4. That's with a controller and no sticks, so d pad and x and box buttons .And again, I'm a mess, just all over the place.

You do looking tidy so there is time to be gained, you need to use way more of the track, you're very conservative.

Oh and the merchant you used softs, both times, these are worth seconds per lap vs hards and tigneys 1.57 is set on hards chief.
 
Chicane85
i managed only 2:06, no way that difference, i am not making any mistakes at all aswell.
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Hey, shht, don't listen to them, you're right!!!

It's not possible to be faster! They're all cheating and you discovered it! Congrats!

(sorry, couldn't resist)
 
Kinda OT but I looked up what the irl world record time on Suzuka is for GT3 and it's 6 seconds slower than the times these GTS aliens are getting. And I assume the world record time was using a compound softer than Hard. Is the B.O.P. for Gr. 3 faster than it is for GT3 or is GTS that far off reality?
 
JTB10000
Kinda OT but I looked up what the irl world record time on Suzuka is for GT3 and it's 6 seconds slower than the times these GTS aliens are getting. And I assume the world record time was using a compound softer than Hard. Is the B.O.P. for Gr. 3 faster than it is for GT3 or is GTS that far off reality?
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Does not having to actually worry about ones personal safety factor in at all? In theory you could be a little more brave in sim racing without fear of personal injury or death?
 
Good point, didn't consider that. Having to worry about freaking dying by going too fast would slow you down quite a bit :lol:

On topic though, as an untalented B pace driver, mid 2:02 is the best I've done so far. If my mediocre driving can get a time like that, you can definitely improve on a 2:06. You just have to keep practicing.
 
Do the track experience first.

I'm more attuned to the W08 on Suzuka... its clearly one of the more complex, difficult tracks out there.

eg. Red Bull Ring is a simple circuit. You can gold it on 15 mins.

However Suzuka has so many complex corners that can yield so much time if done correctly.

Look at the recent Lewis Hamilton challenge. Like if you can get under 1'30" then you have my admiration. Even a sub 1'35" time is impressive.
 
JTB10000
Kinda OT but I looked up what the irl world record time on Suzuka is for GT3 and it's 6 seconds slower than the times these GTS aliens are getting. And I assume the world record time was using a compound softer than Hard. Is the B.O.P. for Gr. 3 faster than it is for GT3 or is GTS that far off reality?
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Remember that Group 3 in GTS is B.O.P'd loads and includes GTE Cars and such
 
One of the key differences of racing drivers is that they don't fear personal injury like normal people might!
Maybe they'll do a 95% lap instead of a 105% attack lap just to minimise the risk but that's not worth 6 seconds.

The time difference is pretty much the game parameters (including simulation of tyre grip, power, weight etc as well as the fundamental physics engine) vs reality.
 
@Chicane85 - you're being WAY too conservative to get even a remotely good lap. There were occasions there where you practically swerve the car *just* to hit one of the track markers, that alone cost you time. You need to be going into a corner as wide as possible in most cases, carry as much speed through/across the apex, accelerate as early as possible, drift out as speed builds up and exit as wide as possible taking into consideration the next corner entry where applicable.

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TonyJZX
Look at the recent Lewis Hamilton challenge. Like if you can get under 1'30" then you have my admiration. Even a sub 1'35" time is impressive.
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Is that Lewis Hamilton challenge in GTS? If memory serves correct I think I have gone as fast as 1:32 in the W08 but that was before PD "fixed" the unbroken W08, I feel the car is slower now.
 
Watching this thread with great interest. I've managed to get into the 2:04's with the Atenza and C7, and feel like I'm on the edge. The videos posted show drivers who are much more comfortable with the curbs and track limits than I am! (That outside curb in Spoon is covered with fresh Castrol Edge in my world...) Always something to be learned here!
 
NevilleNobody
Spoon is the hardest corner in the game, I lose 2 seconds solid through there.
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I always struggled there. I did recently learn that first spoon curve you can take as high as 90MPH and the biggest time saver was slowing enough for 2nd spoon curve. It seems in GR3 you gotta get down to low, low 70's so car will turn in and not push up mid corner then you can get good speed on exit. If you try going in 2nd curve too fast you waste time trying to keep car on bottom then you are way late picking up the gas. 2nd half of Spoon slow in fast out paid dividends for me.
 
Don't look at your speed. See the corners. It's a closing radius, two apex pain in the butt of a challenge, every time.

Wonderful, isn't it?

And yes, absolutely one of the most difficult corner combos, anywhere.
 
coryclifford
Don't look at your speed. See the corners. It's a closing radius, two apex pain in the butt of a challenge, every time.

Wonderful, isn't it?

And yes, absolutely one of the most difficult corner combos, anywhere.
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I think having an idea of your speed is necessary especially thru spoon because you cant carry enough speed if you are on the wrong line. You can also go thru spoon in what feels like a good line if you are too slow and lose massive time because of the long straight after spoon.
 
fastone371
I think having an idea of your speed is necessary especially thru spoon because you cant carry enough speed if you are on the wrong line. You can also go thru spoon in what feels like a good line if you are too slow and lose massive time because of the long straight after spoon.
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That’s exactly what Cory is saying, if your driving line is right your driving to the limit of grip your speed and laptime will look after itself, so instead of splitting your attention between many things, keep it simple,

Driving line and limits of grip (i.e throttle and brake application).
 
rono_thomas
That’s exactly what Cory is saying, if your driving line is right your driving to the limit of grip your speed and laptime will look after itself, so instead of splitting your attention between many things, keep it simple,

Driving line and limits of grip (i.e throttle and brake application).
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You gotta have benchmarks though. For example the whole point of the OP's thread, he thought he was doing everything correct but obviously he wasnt. A person can take perfect lines through every corner and think he just laid down the perfect lap yet be a couple MPH down through every entry and apex losing seconds every lap. It's easy to hit perfect lines through the corners when your are not on the edge of control. It is helpful to know how fast you are at many points on the track compared to others. There is a reason race monitor their competitors laps and sector times in real life. If I can find a few tenths of a second through every sector by comparing my approach compared to my competitors it is something I will most definately do. I'm am not at saying you need to stare at your speedo thru the entire lap but you need to be aware of your speed.
 
And that's agreeable. But do that stuff later, not in the middle of effin Spoon! :lol:

Replays I guess. Or like me, have friends come over and yell at you how slow you are. I call them my race engineers.

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coryclifford
Don't look at your speed. See the corners. It's a closing radius, two apex pain in the butt of a challenge, every time.

Wonderful, isn't it?

And yes, absolutely one of the most difficult corner combos, anywhere.
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And more difficult in GTS on a G29 than in any other sim I've played. (And that is a LONG list...)
 
fastone371
1:57 from TRL Lightening,,just last week I believe.
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Nope, that's the 20th July. Last time on the new tyre model the fastest worldwide was L Shooter with a 1:58.102.

To be fair he's kind of close to a 57 so maybe it is possible, but we haven't seen one on the new tyre model yet.
 
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All circuits are different depending on the cars you drive...obviously.

I much prefer attacking Suzuka in, say, the Red Bull Standard than a Gr.3 car.

It is a totally different experience and is what makes motorsport games so interesting, as you essentially need to relearn/readjust the tracks braking points, grip levels, overtaking spots etc...for each jump in class (which really means the variation in acceleration=top speed=grip on exit=braking distances=downforce).
 

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