Nobody will get banned

[RobGT81]

Banning people because PD was unable to make a coherent game wouldn't go down well at all.

The game is perfectly fine, as proven by people who achieved 100% without cheating.

"Exploiting a Game Glitch.
Exploiting any issue/environment, not intended to be accessible, to give oneself an unfair advantage in online play"

Thats what the T&C's of your PSN account states. Since you have already described it as a glitch I dont see that having any problem justifying a ban.

 

[Big Ron]

"My cousin"
I stopped reading.

Epic 👍👍

 

[Exorcet]

The game is perfectly fine, as proven by people who achieved 100% without cheating.

That doesn't prove much. I'm sure there are people out there so blindly loyal that they would praise something terrible. You see it with patriotism all the time. I should point out that I don't believe everyone who 100%'d the game is like this however. Some people do enjoy it.

But

There are a large number of people upset with some of the choices PD made, so it's been provent that GT5 is not fine.

"Exploiting a Game Glitch.
Exploiting any issue/environment, not intended to be accessible, to give oneself an unfair advantage in online play"

Thats what the T&C's of your PSN account states. Since you have already described it as a glitch I dont see that having any problem justifying a ban.

Excellent proof that Sony won't ban anyone.

 

[GrimSinn]

Wow this board is out-of-control. (moderators?? Wait the OP isn't one of the old-timmers or on there d!@k) this board is getting worse and worse everyday, and the peeps running it either like it this way or are part of the problem. It's sad, what gives?

Everything in the OP I already suspected using common sense, mostly the eBay sales of cars leading to the gifting limitations, then the multi accounts causing issues for PSN that in the end screw over everybody.

I don't even play online, never gifted a car, and standing on the sidelines I find it poetic justice that the people killing the exploits and glitches are the biggest whiners on the issue.

Lol


To the OP thanks for the inside info

To the morons.... If they are going to bash a Dude for giving info, they are morons plain and simple, if you haven't been bashing the OP or other Members you shouldn't feel like what I'm saying is directed at you, but if you're taking offense then most likely I'm talking about you.

Of corse he doesn't want to "prove it" cause that could lead to trouble at work. Take it for what it is, you don't have to believe it, however the caliber of you're character really comes out when you pollute the boards with worthless post of douchebags, trying to be eCool bringing the OP down then being so stupid as to say it's the OP's fault for not providing proof or saying he heard it from his cousin. That's ridiculous, somebody please tell me how him posting info true or not forced so many people to display the maturity of 5 year old bullies just trying to be funny (not one of you were funny at all, more pathetic then anything) There you go, that's how it is, what you know about that.

 

[Exorcet]

Wow this board is out-of-control. Everything in the OP I already suspected using common sense, mostly the eBay sales of cars leading to the gifting ban, then the multi accounts causing issues for PSN that in the end screw over everybody.

Well going back to my first post, I'd like if it someone explained how GT5 was able to generate so much traffic to affect PSN servers so much. It seems highly unlikely.

 

[Sander 001]

I've not read the whole thread, but GT5 was overlaoding PSN? Really?

And it was the trading that was overloading it? Gifting is only one car at a time. Compare that with an online race that has over a dozen cars racing in a large environment with tons of data continuously being transferred back+forth between multiple PS3's all over the world.

Duh, the simplest explanation is the correct one.

And I've worked at large corp. before. Closely guarded secrets are kept far away from the bottoms of the food chain like assistant managers. They do often get plenty of helpings of bull**** though, so it's not "his" fault.

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

And it was the trading that was overloading it? Gifting is only one car at a time. Compare that with an online race that has over a dozen cars racing in a large environment with tons of data continuously being transferred back+forth between multiple PS3's all over the world.

You suggesting PD is banning online racing next to "preserve" the precious PSN? Seems logical to me. We should check with his cousin.

 

[GrimSinn]

You guys are ridiculous to think its impossible for people creating shhh loads and shhh loads of multiple accounts then flooding the network with them to have no I'll effect on a server that already gets loaded at peek hours (sheeeeeeesh) not to mention all the server space neing completly waisted by people using them to glitch the game. Only a moron could think this would have no ill effect. So bad mouth the guy all you want, you just look like fools. Its weird because you think cause you know something ( I bet you do) that means you know everything, grow up. The info being right or wrong is irrelevant, it's authenticity should have no influence on wether or not the members of the board can show maturity, simple as that, but go ahead and try to further justify you're actions with all that BS, that's what people incapable of real relationships do, usually resorting to online trashing of people for nor real valid reason.


Oh he said PD was NOT banning accounts, I guess learning to read going without saying is not in effect here.

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

Its weird because you think cause you know something ( I bet you do) that means you know everything, grow up. The info being right or wrong is irrelevant, it's authenticity should have no influence on wether or not the members of the board can show maturity, simple as that, but go ahead and try to further justify you're actions with all that BS, that's what people incapable of real relationships do, usually resorting to online trashing of people for nor real valid reason.

Self reflecting much lately?

And by the way, you do know people have 256 accounts can still only log on ONE at a time, right? Has the same effect to the serve as someone has 1 account reboot the system.

Double by the way, most people already have multiple accounts since Day 1 because of the birthday ticket glitch. It's not like sub account was just invented in Feb 2011.

 

[illustratedrick]

Wow[beats back flames], Thanks OP for sharing. Validates some other info I have.

 

[GrimSinn]

Self reflecting much lately?

Yup enough to be mature enough to not bomb somebody over nothing, you should try it sometime, you defiantly seem like you have much to reflect on. If your capable of seeing past your obvious mental block.

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

Yup enough to be mature enough to not bomb somebody over nothing, you should try it sometime, you defiantly seem like you have much to reflect on. If your capable of seeing past your obvious mental block.

You know, that's what people incapable of real relationships do. Resorting to online trashing of people for no real valid reason.

 

[GeneralJesh]

Self reflecting much lately?

And by the way, you do know people have 256 accounts can still only log on ONE at a time, right? Has the same effect to the serve as someone has 1 account reboot the system.

Double by the way, most people already have multiple accounts since Day 1 because of the birthday ticket glitch. It's not like sub account was just invented in Feb 2011.

I wanted to say that but in a less "friendly" way

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

I wanted to say that but in a less "friendly" way

Because only people incapable of real relationships do resort to online trashing of people for no real valid reason.

I am glad we are clearly not one of them.

 

[Exorcet]

You guys are ridiculous

For asking a question?

to think its impossible for people creating shhh loads and shhh loads of multiple accounts then flooding the network with them to have no I'll effect on a server that already gets loaded at peek hours (sheeeeeeesh) not to mention all the server space neing completly waisted by people using them to glitch the game.

All I said was, it's unlikely, show some proof. The latter I still haven't got.

Alt accounts have been rampant since the PS3 launched. Many on my friends have gone through at least two accounts. Some have had 5+. I made maybe 10 for various reasons before even GT5P launched. Yet, never before was the number of PSN accounts an issue. I've never even heard Sony mention anything about rampant numbers of PSN accounts.

Wouldn't we have gotten in trouble for making GTP accounts here for GT5P?

Only a moron could think this would have no ill effect.

You can keep going on like this fine, but it's not proof.

So bad mouth the guy all you want

Huh?

Its weird because you think cause you know something ( I bet you do) that means you know everything, grow up.

????

Oh he said PD was NOT banning accounts, I guess learning to read going without saying is not in effect here.

And I asked about what caused PD to release 1.07.

 

[GrimSinn]

Self reflecting much lately?

And by the way, you do know people have 256 accounts can still only log on ONE at a time, right? Has the same effect to the serve as someone has 1 account reboot the system.

Double by the way, most people already have multiple accounts since Day 1 because of the birthday ticket glitch. It's not like sub account was just invented in Feb 2011.

Man I have to say it plain, but this might be something you don't understand. Hopefully I can dumb it down a bit for yah, here it goes

Hypothetically

If 1000 people with a PSN account created 250 dummy accounts, PSN would have to store account info for 249,999 accounts that are BS accounts on top of storing account info for all the active/inactive users and dead accounts. PSN just loves waisting space and doesn't care at all when it's users who want to enjoy the service have reduced quality of online play due to the server flooded with people just gifting/glitching the game/service essentially being among the few NOT using the service as agreed to in the terms of use agreement. Naturally those breaking the agreement should be concerned about a ban, and rightfully so. If they could effectively ban the glitchers and eBay pockets I'd be all for it.

 

[Exorcet]

16 accounts per PS3 max. Not 250.

Also, what about alt accounts before GT5?

 

[GTShadowKing]

Why every thread has to end like this?

 

[Blitz24]

Man I have to say it plain, but this might be something you don't understand. Hopefully I can dumb it down a bit for yah, here it goes

Hypothetically

If 1000 people with a PSN account created 250 dummy accounts, PSN would have to store account info for 249,999 accounts that are BS accounts on top of storing account info for all the active/inactive users and dead accounts. PSN just loves waisting space and first care at all when it's users who want to enjoy the service have reduced quality of online play due to the server flooded with people just gifting/glitching the game/service essentially being among the few NOT using the service as agreed to in the terms of use agreement. Naturally those breaking the agreement should be concerned about a ban, and rightfully so. If they could effectively ban the glitchers and eBay pockets I'd be all for it.

Sony would probably be better off allowing for accounts to be deleted then.

 

[GrimSinn]

For asking a question?

All I said was, it's unlikely, show some proof. The latter I still haven't got.

Alt accounts have been rampant since the PS3 launched. Many on my friends have gone through at least two accounts. Some have had 5+. I made maybe 10 for various reasons before even GT5P launched. Yet, never before was the number of PSN accounts an issue. I've never even heard Sony mention anything about rampant numbers of PSN accounts.

Wouldn't we have gotten in trouble for making GTP accounts here for GT5P?

You can keep going on like this fine, but it's not proof.

Huh?

????

And I asked about what caused PD to release 1.07.

Dude I wasn't even talking to you. I made it clear I was addressing the people not questing the info but bashing the OP for providing it. I made it clear saying if you know you not doing it it font apply to you, why is it you feel I was talking to you?

Ask for proof all you want nobody is obliged to provide it.

 

[GeneralJesh]

Ask for proof all you want nobody is obliged to provide it.

 

[GrimSinn]

Because it's so much space wasted, right ?

NOT.

Hey you guys are free to believe what you want, nobody is forcing you to believe it.

What's the problem?

 

[GrimSinn]

So you ask for proof. Your disbelief just doesn't matter. So no proof is required & again nobody is obliged to prove anything.

 

[Exorcet]

You guys are ridiculous to think its impossible for people creating shhh loads and shhh loads of multiple accounts then flooding the network with them to have no I'll effect

It was that that made me think I was being addressed. My mistake.

It's true that no one is obliged to prove anything. But it would help us figure things out. That much is certain.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Ask for proof all you want nobody is obliged to provide it.

Oh, you are in this forum:

# You will not knowingly post any material that is false, misleading, or inaccurate.

https://www.gtplanet.net/aup/

Actually if something is that unllikely, you should prove it, if you are not able to prove a claim, don't post it. Seriously his "cousin"? Come on.

 

[GrimSinn]

Oh, you are in this forum:

https://www.gtplanet.net/aup/

Actually if something is that unllikely, you should prove it, if you are not able to prove a claim, don't post it. Seriously his "cousin"? Come on.

He posted it as "hear-say" not fact. So he is defiantly following the rules. Take it at face value is that so hard?

 

[Devedander]

Oh, you are in this forum:

https://www.gtplanet.net/aup/

Actually if something is that unllikely, you should prove it, if you are not able to prove a claim, don't post it. Seriously his "cousin"? Come on.

Ummm, how does not providing proof violate knowingly false information?

My buddy told me that the GDP of Ireland is $20mill.

I post that info.

I do not know that it's wrong.

And what proof are you looking for? Proof that his cousin works at SCEI? What would that prove? The info could still be wrong... his cousin could be lying or it could be misinformation... in neither case does is he knowingly posting wrong information.

There seems to be some confusion between posting something you aren't positive is right and knowingly posting wrong information. They are not the same thing... not that the proof people are asking for really would make a diference anyway.

Ultimately what he says sounds reasonable, it's hearsay from the internet, take it with a grain of salt.

 

[GrimSinn]

Ummm, how does not providing proof violate knowingly false information?

My buddy told me that the GDP of Ireland is $20mill.

I post that info.

I do not know that it's wrong.

And what proof are you looking for? Proof that his cousin works at SCEI? What would that prove? The info could still be wrong... his cousin could be lying or it could be misinformation... in neither case does is he knowingly posting wrong information.

There seems to be some confusion between posting something you aren't positive is right and knowingly posting wrong information. They are not the same thing... not that the proof people are asking for really would make a diference anyway.

Ultimately what he says sounds reasonable, it's hearsay from the internet, take it with a grain of salt.

Amen, you made the point so much better then I, thanks.

 

[Mario2Lopez]

Here is the problem, if someone uploads a file lets say a car to megaupload which is 100kb. If a thousand people download the file it really doesn't matter to megaupload since people are not taking their network storage space. Now if a thousand people upload 100kb that takes 100,000kb of storage. This is also why many forums put a limit to banner size and other things they just don't want to spend more money for storage.

When people exploid the B-day gifting they were sending in conservative terms 8 cars per account which would be 800kb plus 1.3MB of space each account takes up. If somebody did this for 30 different accounts that would be 24MB in cars uploaded plus 39 MB. This would equal to 63MB per person.

Now,If you take into account that 2 weeks after the release of GT5 there were 4.1 Million new PSN accounts, it become obvious how costly this became to Sony and why it was address so quickly. When they implemented the limit to one day there were 9.7 Million PSN created an "insider" inform me. That people where complaining all day because they had reach the account limit in their console which is 56 accounts per PS3. The clever guys created accounts from the website and could still activate them in the PS3. This became such a common practice specially in Japan that there were people that had over 200 PSN ID associated to a PS3.

2.1MB X 13.8 Million New PSN ID's = 17.9 TB and that is not cheap!

 

[GrimSinn]

General? NyTaxi?

Care to retort?

Naw the traffic from a few extra account is nothing. PD hates us and is doing all the changes to gifting cars because they want to stick it to us for buying the game. lol jokes. I figured it on my own but a lil breakdown will always help the hard of hearing.