Nordschleife Lap Times

[Manuelos]

1 lap in the new GT-R

07:13.578 - Nissan GT-R Black edition 2012 (GTP_Manuelos) BEATEN

 

[Alex p.]

I did a lap in a stock ZR1 in 7:06... Took me about three days but I got it down that low!!!!

That's an insane achievement! 👍

 

[Mac K]

I did a lap in a stock ZR1 in 7:06... Took me about three days but I got it down that low!!!!

Sports hard? Not doubting you, just making sure.. Great time! Props to you. The ZR1 is a handful, brake to late and understeer, brake to early and try to compensate by going faster and you easily spin.

 

[CSLACR]

07:49.848 - Nissan 350Z '03 (US) (GTP_CSL) NEW

I did a lap in a stock ZR1 in 7:06... Took me about three days but I got it down that low!!!!

That's what I'd call a "replay lap".

 

[Padracer99]

Good idea (I'd say Sports Hards if these are road-legal), but what about Racing or non-production cars? I say they can use any tyre since they're not Road legal anyway.

Also, I've just thought about aids. Should any be allowed? I normally drive with Manual Transmission, no TCS, and nothing else other than ABS at 1 and ASM on (I have tried ASM off and I spin out far too much, but TCS is unnecessary for me, it is more a limit than a benefit).

Non production cars can be road legal , just like a Ferrari Enzo.

So the Ferrari Enzo can use racing tyres?

 

[Bushby_23]

Non production cars can be road legal , just like a Ferrari Enzo.

So the Ferrari Enzo can use racing tyres?

But the enzo is a production car. Admittedly limited production, but production nontheless

 

[Doodle]

1. 03:12.791 - Gran Turismo Red Bull X2011 Prototype (csdts)
2. 03:14.971 - Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 Prototype (csdts)
3. 03:33.214 - Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 S. Vettel (zedextreme8177)
4. 03:49.621 - Gran Turismo X2010 Carbon (Exorcet)

Uhh, the X2010 Carbon and the X2010 Prototype are the same car

 

[Alex p.]

07:31.348 - BMW M5 '05 (Alex p.) UPDATE

07:18.241 - Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept '00 (Alex p.) NEW

07:16.496 - Pagani Zonda C12S '00 (Alex p.) NEW

 

[Mac K]

Well boys I just got a G27 and it's miles ahead of the DFGT, both in terms of feel and the pedals(although the force feedback is about the same) I still have the DFGT but the G27 is about to take over as my main wheel for GT5, so watch out, I'm gunning for your lap times! Oh do you guys recommend keeping it realistic depending on the car? For example, paddles on a 458 Italia or stick+clutch on a Corvette, or paddles all the way?

 

[CSLACR]

From what I'm told, using the real shifter greatly slows you down in GT5, likely due to whiners complaining about it ever offering an "advantage" in GT5P.👎

I'm told it just won't allow you to change gears any faster then a specific timed rate, and I'll stop before this turns into a rant.

 

[Mac K]

From what I'm told, using the real shifter greatly slows you down in GT5, likely due to whiners complaining about it ever offering an "advantage" in GT5P.👎

I'm told it just won't allow you to change gears any faster then a specific timed rate, and I'll stop before this turns into a rant.

Thats interesting, I can see paddles being faster as I find it much easier and it takes less effort. I was playing with the stick+clutch today and it felt fine to me, but who knows.

 

[CSLACR]

Thats interesting, I can see paddles being faster as I find it much easier and it takes less effort. I was playing with the stick+clutch today and it felt fine to me, but who knows.

I'm told if you truly try to speed-shift it locks you out in some manner. I really can't say, since I've never touched one.

 

[peter_vod69]

It doesn't let you shift with the throttle down, and the clutch pick up point seems slightly odd, so it WILL leave you with a box full of neutrals every so often unless you are fairly deliberate. That being said, I use the cockpit setup I have in a manner which accurately reflects the car I choose to drive, just seems more immersive somehow.

 

[Will27]

I'm told if you truly try to speed-shift it locks you out in some manner. I really can't say, since I've never touched one.

Its only in certain cars, like the Lotus Elan(stock of course) is quite bad for it. You can complete the shift as fast as you physically can, but the gear number will remain greyed out(like when the clutch is in), the revs will continue to drop and the car won’t accelerate until a set time has elapsed.
The larger the change in RPM needed for the next gear, the longer the delay. If you upgrade the clutch the problem goes away.

 

[peter_vod69]

Its only in certain cars, like the Lotus Elan(stock of course) is quite bad for it. You can complete the shift as fast as you physically can, but the gear number will remain greyed out(like when the clutch is in), the revs will continue to drop and the car won’t accelerate until a set time has elapsed.
The larger the change in RPM needed for the next gear, the longer the delay. If you upgrade the clutch the problem goes away.

I guess that is to account for the notchiness/vagueness/rubbish sychros/no sychros in the real car.

 

[CSLACR]

I guess that is to account for the notchiness/vagueness/rubbish sychros/no sychros in the real car.

I do know I've never driven a car that couldn't be shifted much faster then a lot of cars shift in GT5 even with paddle shifters. Without upgrades for either, of course.

 

[mike_gt3]

I drive with the paddles now when i need to make a quick lap, but its more fun and immersive with the clutch and H-shifter

The downside is when the tires spin in 1st gear, you will not be able to shift into 2nd gear quickly if the tires spin, same for any other shift if you were spinning... it will put you in neutral.

The normal 1-2 shift will mostly be slow depending the car even if you shift as fast as you can, even with the paddles on most cars except cars like mercedes SLS, GTR etc...

Thats what i dislike the most i think about it, but other than that, shift can still be done fairly quick, but not as quick as paddles unfortunatly... I tried racing my ghost replay with the paddles vs the H-shifter and i was slowly gaining on each shift.

Congrats on your new purchase! just for the throttle and brake pedal feel it was worth it.

I just got back from holidays, i will edit the spreadsheet soon.

 

[Alex p.]

I drive with the paddles now when i need to make a quick lap, but its more fun and immersive with the clutch and H-shifter

The downside is when the tires spin in 1st gear, you will not be able to shift into 2nd gear quickly if the tires spin, same for any other shift if you were spinning... it will put you in neutral.

The normal 1-2 shift will mostly be slow depending the car even if you shift as fast as you can, even with the paddles on most cars except cars like mercedes SLS, GTR etc...

Thats what i dislike the most i think about it, but other than that, shift can still be done fairly quick, but not as quick as paddles unfortunatly... I tried racing my ghost replay with the paddles vs the H-shifter and i was slowly gaining on each shift.

Congrats on your new purchase! just for the throttle and brake pedal feel it was worth it.

I just got back from holidays, i will edit the spreadsheet soon.

Nice. Oh and mike I suppose you forgot something? Secret Santa...

 

[Manuelos]

I drive with the paddles now when i need to make a quick lap, but its more fun and immersive with the clutch and H-shifter

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Although mis shifting because you go to fast on the throttle, can be very frustrating

 

[mike_gt3]

Nice. Oh and mike I suppose you forgot something? Secret Santa...

Yeah i didnt forgot, i had to go sooner than expected visit some family, will send my gift tonight.

 

[Obsidian-2]

Well boys I just got a G27 and it's miles ahead of the DFGT, both in terms of feel and the pedals(although the force feedback is about the same) I still have the DFGT but the G27 is about to take over as my main wheel for GT5, so watch out, I'm gunning for your lap times! Oh do you guys recommend keeping it realistic depending on the car? For example, paddles on a 458 Italia or stick+clutch on a Corvette, or paddles all the way?

I have been considering making this switch as well ... I will be curious to see if your lap times improve with the G27. I have always felt the larger diameter G27 wheel would aid turning for tight corners.

 

[Alex p.]

Hey Mike could you please add the videos for those 3 cars I already posted times for?:

07:31.348 - BMW M5 '05 (Alex p.) UPDATE

07:18.241 - Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept '00 (Alex p.) NEW

Here you can find the videos, I updated my top30 road cars to a top 50 road cars of gt5 thread.

07:16.496 - Pagani Zonda C12S '00 (Alex p.) NEW

You can find the videos here, I updated my top 30 road cars thread to a top 50.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=222154

 

[mike_gt3]

No problem Alex
I will update the spreadsheet today.

 

[Mac K]

I drive with the paddles now when i need to make a quick lap, but its more fun and immersive with the clutch and H-shifter

The downside is when the tires spin in 1st gear, you will not be able to shift into 2nd gear quickly if the tires spin, same for any other shift if you were spinning... it will put you in neutral.

The normal 1-2 shift will mostly be slow depending the car even if you shift as fast as you can, even with the paddles on most cars except cars like mercedes SLS, GTR etc...

Thats what i dislike the most i think about it, but other than that, shift can still be done fairly quick, but not as quick as paddles unfortunatly... I tried racing my ghost replay with the paddles vs the H-shifter and i was slowly gaining on each shift.

Congrats on your new purchase! just for the throttle and brake pedal feel it was worth it.

I just got back from holidays, i will edit the spreadsheet soon.

I noticed that today, it's hard to get used to. I hope they "fix" it in the next update.. The G27 is so much better than the DFGT though.

 

[mike_gt3]

I also hope they will fix this one day! , and yeah its a good wheel, i really like mine.


Happy new year all! 👍

Unfortunatly i couldnt update the spreadsheet today, will try to find some time tomorow.

 

[zedextreme8177]

Yes, happy new year!. I will be taking a break from GT5, until my exams are over .

 

[mike_gt3]

Yes, happy new year!. I will be taking a break from GT5, until my exams are over .

Good luck with your exams

 

[NjLowrider]

Paddles all day. The clutch is horrible in gt5. You could just bang gears without the clutch, which is fun, but for consistant driving, paddles all day!

 

[TOUGE_MONSTER]

06.45.008 - hks ct230r '08 (touge monster) beaten

can upload pic of my leaderboard if needed

 

[mike_gt3]

06.45.008 - hks ct230r '08 (touge monster) beaten

can upload pic of my leaderboard if needed

Is it stock? did you used stock tires?
I need to know this to put it in the right category.