Nordschleife Times

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wow, I m sure It would be the record for the class, and still going down...amazing.,
Upload new C class laps...Kinda proud of my Cobra:)
 
good gt3 time jiannone...i´m not much faster on the cup R..

i didn´t expect nothing near than this on D class...a few more laps we´ll beat 7:15 corvette old record (real life) in the slower class of the game...amazing drive m8, The guys that i invited will not show, guess they gave up before give a try!

b class godzilla up, 6:18 than :crazy:
also a 911 carrera legends with tunes...really the most fun lap i drove there, you guys must try
 
I know mate D class time is an amazing time really, would be good if more put times down, but am really enjoying the competition with us two, strong. So i need to get back on B class now then lol great time mate.
 
yeh nice m8, last strong battle we ended on 1st (you) and 2nd (me) of the world on carrer. ps3 and xbox by very far lol....such a shame they shut the autolog down, i was about to get the first on hotlap...to late
 
This is why this game is so good, the fine detail which can be made to the cars when hutting time down is amazing. Its great how were near the limit with different set-ups too.
 
good gt3 time jiannone...i´m not much faster on the cup R..
Thanks, I made some pretty serious mistakes. I think I could pick up at least a second on that time. I'll setup the Cup R and give it a try tonight. 6:56 GT3 RSR.
 
yeh, noticed we have diferent upgrades...was coming for a good 1, lost it on nurburg sector but still finish in 7:15.0...new D lap up :scared:
 
Banging laps thiago, we are defo at the business end of D class, this has to be world record this on PS3 and Xbox. Its a shame more people ant up for the challenge!! @jiannone thiagos right, Turbo 1, NO swap is the base of this car. There are a few different ways to go after that which will all get around 720, process of elimination to find the best. @bogdantw2, seen some of your vids, your a quick clean racer sir. Shame your not on PS3 mate.

Thanks Steve.

As far as D class is concerned I'm afraid 7:30 is a definitive limit for the PC version of Shift2.

I've tried your upgrade suggestions (turbo 1, no engine swap) along with countless upgrade variations.
Unless I'm missing something blatantly obvious, I can safely say that path does not work on the PC. Quite the opposite.
Not only it won't make the FC3S faster, but it's actually much much slower compared to the engine swapped version (by at least 20 sec. per lap).

Even the stats showed in the upgrade menu seem to confirm it:
- my upgrade combo (engine swap + turbo 1) -->> 290+ bhp and 325+ Nm of torque

- no engine swap and any possible upgrade combinations -->> 240 bhp at most and ~300 Nm of torque.
 
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Since we're all having such a good time here, lemme set a new challenge.
Let's find the best possible lap time for the GT3 class on PS3 and PC.
This might shed some more light on how different the 2 platforms are in regards to Shift2 (since the cars will be virtually identical).

Only GT3 cars are allowed - Alpina B6, Audi R8 LMS, Aston DBRS9, BMW Z4 GT3, Gallardo GT3, Corvette GT3, Ford GT

We have a benchmark lap time set by jiannone with the Z4 GT3 at 6:53.
Now lets see how much lower we can go.

So gentlemen ... rev your engines! :)
 
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Page1 updated. Nordschleife D class (499) RX7 7.14.045. Yeh will have a bash at GT3 next then GT1:tup:👍
 
I struggled with a good set up for the Cup R last night. It wants to get loose or push wide. I think I can make that car faster.

Also, the Ford GT should be the fastest car of the bunch.
 
1second m8, to fast...think I see the end of this, will give another try 2morro, but think i´m done.
b retro and muscle up
 
Page1 updated. Nordschleife D class (499) RX7 7.14.045. Yeh will have a bash at GT3 next then GT1:tup:👍
Cool.
While on GT3 there's quite a wide range of choices (I haven't determined yet if there is a clear winning GT3 car for hot lapping Nordschleife), in GT1 class seems to be a one horse race - the Maserati.

Ford GT should be the fastest car of the bunch.
Completely forgot about that car.
I edited the post to include it in our little challenge.
 
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Gallardo GT3 - 6:36
Only done 3 laps in it with a minimal tuning setup.
I believe 6:30 is possible in this car. I'll upload a video as soon as I get there(abouts).
 
630 really. PC must be way faster in this class then. No way could i get near that lol. Whats PC GT1 time then?
 
I have no idea what GT1 can do yet, haven't done any serious laps in these cars, but look forward to.

Well 6:30 is just my 'guesstimate' for the Gallardo.
I assume it's possible as I got within a few seconds of it and made a series of mistakes.
I've just recorded a 6:33.9 lap in the Gallardo GT3, which I'll upload shortly.

In regards to Matech Ford GT I don't think it's at the same level with Gallardo or Audi R8 LMS or even the Z4 GT3.
I only used it in career mode races, where I got significantly slower race times compared to the other 3 cars.

Best way to judge it against PS3 is by using the same car and comparing speeds on corner exits and the end of the straights.
Comparing different cars across platforms cannot reveal anything ...
 
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OK, here it is - Gallardo GT3, 6:33.933





As far as tuning goes I used zero downforce, some minor toe angle adjustments and softened a bit the suspension.
The rest of it is pretty much default.
 
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Tidy laps bogdantw2, we need thi to get a lap in to get an idea of PS3 times, don't think we can compete with PC times really tho, but you never know.Your GT3 car's even look faster, mega acceleration on the lambo:tup:
 
You made great laps man, but now I understand how people do 1.39 on mount panorama, or 6:37 on nords using the lambo lp640, Are you using mods?...Pc look so smooth, even setting the softer suspension I can´t drive over the bumps like that....I tried the lambo, my max speed is 290km, you got 300km without even use the 6th gear. and it´s actually the slower car on the ps3...I was doing around 48s with the cup R, need to test the aston martin and come back with the lap.
Ah, I also tried your upgrades on the rx8 d class, and it make me do a over 8min lap...to much diference.
post all you laps class by class, like we are doing, maybe someone on PC could join us to battle with u.
 
Thanks Steve and Thiago.

To answer your question Thiago - I don't use mods.
As I mentioned earlier I only use the Nogripracing unofficial community patch (or UCP) with my Shift2 copy.
As the titles says UCP is a patch and addresses many of the bugs present in the PC version along with game unpacking (enabling the ability to add more features to the game - liveries, cars, etc).
Game physics are unchanged.
More info here


Regarding smoothness I think that's a fps issue more than anything else.
I don't know what frame rate the PS3 is capable of, but on an average PC you're looking at 50+ fps.
If you were referring to video smoothness that's not really an issue, as we'd be comparing apples with oranges - direct gameplay HD capture at 60 fps vs. TV screen capture through a camera. So PC should look much smoother.

In regards to GT3 car speeds.
Well there's one obvious difference neither of you mentioned, but critical when you're talking about acceleration and speed - downforce settings.
Unless you're using the same values as I did we can't really compare cars accurately.
My first lap in the Matech Ford GT was with default setup (= downforce set at 10/10) and got a 6:47 out of it, which is 2 seconds slower than Steve's lap.
The speeds on straights and through the corners matched almost perfectly Steve's speeds (from his video).

The same applies to the Gallardo.
Keep the downforce high and you'll never get past 290 km/h on the straights.
Anyways these things are obvious ...


In terms of car choice I think the Audi R8 LMS and the Gallardo GT3 are the best for the job on Nordschleife.
Both have 2 things in common which are crucial: longer gears and high torque in the mid-rpm range.
These 2 things insure better and smoother acceleration and less gear changes.

The Matech Ford GT lacks in both departments.
Gears are a bit too short so you have to over-work the gearbox, losing at least a tenth at every gear change under acceleration.
In regards to torque the Matech Ford GT maxes out at 6000rpm, which is a bit too high.

Coupled together (short gears and max torque at high revs) you don't get a winning combo for Nordschleife.

Ah, I also tried your upgrades on the rx8 d class, and it make me do a over 8min lap...to much diference.
Well I have to ask how did you upgrade your RX-8?

The key upgrade on my RX-8 is the street turbo (or turbo 1, how you guys call it). Doesn't really matter what else you use next to it in terms of speed (only in handling), you'll get in the same ballpark regardless.
So, at least on the PC, a turbo 1 upgraded RX-8 is bound to get easily in the 7:40's, unless you're doing something wrong.
 
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lol, yeh of course i´m using very low downforce, 0.3 on the lambo gt3, i´ll post the lap 2 u see the diference, you don´t lose power when u corner, on ps3 the cars doens´t have such power, that´s what i meant when i said smoother...
about the rx-8, ok, i`ll open to the other ps3 drivers...the upgrades totally diferents as u noticed on the rx7 fc, pc and ps3 behave diferent ways.. delivery the same lap on rx8 (video 1st page) using no engine swap, air int 1, rotary 2, fuel del 1, clutch 3, trams 3, susp, tyres full, brake 1.0
 

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