the game is supposed to be The Real Driving Simulator.
to simulate the driving experience of basically any cars on real/ famous roads (aswell as some fantasy tracks)
while i consider myself a good racer and driver in all other GT's i've owned.
i've never bothered with getting golds in all the licence tests.
as long as i do enough to get bronze and get the licence, that should simply be enough to open all the tracks for you to drive on.
i agree that golding everything should give you a heap of credits or unlock more special cars, sooner
My only issue with the AMG event is the silly traffic that is on the track. It never fails that whenever I am headed for a pretty good time I come up on 2 Merc A classes doing about 60mph side by side (aka no where to pass) while I am going 120+.
I really hate any unlockables in these types of games. It just leads to frustration when you have to do the same stupid event over and over.
You can set the weather with the 24hr version. I'd like to be able to drive on this track with any setting I choose to. Mind you, I like to take the cars I've bought and earned out and drive casually on some of these tracks. Not everyone wants to race all the time. There are people who like to freely drive around in GT and I'm one of them.
I have no problems with getting bronze, and I believe I'm not a complete rookie when it comes to the GT franchise as I've been playing since the very 1st one. I consider myself a decent driver. I just think PD made it too difficult and that it's not really worth investing my time in order to unlock the track. Like I mentioned before, I have a full time job and many responsibilities to attend to. It's very difficult to find the time to sit down and repeatedly attempt these special events in order to unlock a track. I'm a pretty hardcore GT fan and believe PD should've tackled this in a more practical manner in order to make it easily accessible for even casual drivers or people who are new to the series.
Or at least give us an alternative way to unlock it. For example, the X1 is earned by achieving all bronze (and that's even more difficult than getting all gold in the AMG event imo). But as an alternative you are given the car as a gift when reaching level 35. That's the way it should've been done.
The 24H version of the Nurburgring is such a reward. A reward for the more experienced or skilled players and not particularly meant for the 'casual' player. The regular Nurburgring Nordschleife is more accessible, needing only the bronzes which are very achievable. This regular version also has day/night and weather, I believe. If those bronze trophies cannot be achieved, I would conclude said driver is not putting enough effort into the game. This game came out less than a month ago. We still have years until GT6 comes out and so the 'casual' gamer has that amount of time to conquer these challenges. Rome wasn't built in a day.
There should be no exclusivity; it should be everything for everyone, especially the tracks. You are clearly placing yourself above the "casual gamer"... how can you not be boasting? Yeah I unlocked the track and yeah it was satisfying, but it should've been a lot easier. My rule is: if my grandma can't do it, its way too hard!
I am one guy who is not that good, but i actually like that there are some challenges for me.
I think there are more problems with A spec, you can for many races just take a car that is 10 times better than the AI. Not that I have done it because I tryed to find cars that where less powerfull than the AI's. But sometimes it takes 10 times longer trying to find a car that can win, but is not to easy or imposibel to win.
About the ring, at first I got bronze now I have almost all of them silver, and I even almost managed one gold in the first section of the track, as i was less than a second away from gold. I love it that way gives me something to aim for.
For me getting gold in all these events will take a lot of practise. And i like it that way. Gues im just not the type who wants things to be easy. I think its fine that one has to work your way through the game and unlock things as we get better and better.
Its not like we cant drive at the track, because I think everyone can agre that getting bronze is super easy.
I did a lap where I felt like I was a driving GOD....half a second short of gold. I know I can do it...have to find a bit more time in the last sector. I can absolutely murder the first 3 sections of the 'ring. But I agree, they should ALL be available from the start. Perhaps golding these challenges should unlock something a bit more special. Maybe a special SLS or something else unique. I actually very much enjoy the AMG academy...I wish more tracks (or all of them) had similar challenges. It would be cool to unlock a special car, tuned by PD, that is exceptionally good at the track you are currently challenging. So say you 'gold' a grand valley challenge...maybe then you unlock the "Grand Valley Ford GT" with a special livery and tuning. How cool would it be to have a separate events list specifically devoted to track-based challenges. When you Gold all of them, perhaps an even more special event is unlocked. This is the kind of career progression that I think PD should investigate...instead of pointless 'leveling' Thinking out loud here. What do you guys think?
The elitest attitude of some of the people on these forums is beyond sickening. I mean we all paid the same admission price for this VIDEO GAME. I totally understand being rewarded in the career mode, but arcade mode is called arcade for a reason. People should be able to relax, have a good time and experience what the game has to offer.
I don't. Care if they want to take a VW bus around the ring with every drivin aid cranked up to 10 and obey the traffic laws of 16 different countries at the same time. Casual or not, just because I play the game with a wheel, no aids, and strive for gold on special events doesn't make me any more of a person, or deserving of experiencing one of the features we both paid for...
I did a lap where I felt like I was a driving GOD....half a second short of gold. I know I can do it...have to find a bit more time in the last sector. I can absolutely murder the first 3 sections of the 'ring. But I agree, they should ALL be available from the start. Perhaps golding these challenges should unlock something a bit more special. Maybe a special SLS or something else unique. I actually very much enjoy the AMG academy.
Well, I certainly agree I think we should be able to get the Nordschleife from the begining, the 4H from bronze, the 24H for silver, for gold a special car or something that means a lot but doesn't exclude the average player. Who's with me on this?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the track is available to all online. So what you could do is enter your lobby, choose the track, and pretend it's practice mode.
Your very right there, Ive unlocked the track, but your point is very true. Sone people don't have the time to sit down for 1 or 2 hrs to unlock 1 track to much around on.
And I'm sick of most of these comments saying that "nurburgring ist a casual track" and all that crap an saying it was easy for you. All you people are doing is showing off or thinking you are a better person because you can unlock the track easily.
I was thinking of taking GT5 over to a mate's place along with my wheel to play on his PS3 demonstrate what a great game it is. Unfortunately if I were to do this we would have to spend some considerable hours first unlocking both the Nurburgring and to a lesser extent the top gear test track... All in all, due to the time it would take I probably won't bother, which is a shame.
Really I'm not convinced that locking some of the most desirable tracks is a great idea as it is these types of tracks that might convince others to buy the game for themselves if you were to drop in and play on their PS3.
Having said that, the "not your" pic post a few pages back was pretty amusing
What if you were a 10 year old kid playing with a controller? Probably obsessed with The Ring (thanks to the media saturation it receives), begged his parents for the large sum of $60. His mum calls him to tell him the TV (the families only by the way) is free and he has an hour to play (and maybe this happens twice a week).
So when the kid spends his hour looking for the non-existent track, then eventually gives up on Gran Turismo (or god forbid, tries his luck asking for help on here), can you still justify it?
Not everyone has their own PS3/TV/ endless free time/brain
What if you were a 10 year old kid playing with a controller? Probably obsessed with The Ring (thanks to the media saturation it receives), begged his parents for the large sum of $60. His mum calls him to tell him the TV (the families only by the way) is free and he has an hour to play (and maybe this happens twice a week).
So when the kid spends his hour looking for the non-existent track, then eventually gives up on Gran Turismo (or god forbid, tries his luck asking for help on here), can you still justify it?
Not everyone has their own PS3/TV/ endless free time/brain
Wow, coming from the 2 hours per week perspective, GT wouldn't be much "fun". Especially when little Johnny gets to "the grind". Appears to be more of a chore than enjoyment for the very casual player.
For the last week, I've been doin' the grind in B-Spec for cash and that stinkin PD F1 car. Yeah, loads of fun I must say! No wonder PC gamers pay people in 3rd world nations to "mine gold" for them.
Sorry folks, but insane repetitious grinding is not the same as replay value. All tracks should be naturally unlocked by time one gets to level 10. Not everyone is as "gifted" as the elitists. Go play iRacing if GT5 isn't challenging enough for you.
Unlockables are a basic rule of gaming. I think the way GT5 handles it is perfectly fair, players who are able to achieve bronze can still enjoy Nordschleife and GP but players who are dedicated to the game and work hard to achieve gold get to enjoy Nurburgring 24H. If your driving skills aren't quite good enough then you need to practice as much as you can and improve your driving skills. You need to work for that track, it's a reward not an entitlement. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but it's the truth. If everything was unlocked from the start then the game would get boring fast, you would have nothing to work towards. I thought I would never gold the B, A and IC licenses but I worked hard and eventually got my reward cars. You just need to work for that track, that's what the point of that challenge is... it helps you improve your driving.
games have unlockables, it's a basic part of gaming, designed to keep the game interesting. FPSs have guns, RPGs have abilities, driving gamaes have tracks and cars. That's just the way games work. Having everything available from the very start would render the game very dull very quickly. One of the basic priciples of game design is "big challenges = big rewards", as is the case here.
I can't help thinking that some people just want all the buttons on the controller replaces with one, big "Win" button that, when pressed, completes the game for you.
And this is someone who will never, ever 100% this game. I'll probably never unluck the 'Ring either, I just don;t have the time or the ability to do so. But I can see why it is locked away in this manner.
Arcade should have everything unlocked from the get go.
I suppose the short single player experience helped the designers to add some artificial length to the game by making you unlock tracks.
When people thought you unlocked damage, some thought it an excellent addition.
You were being obnoxious, rather than boasting. My post wasn't a reply to you, it was a more general comment to someone who had replied to you. You're merely one part of the problem that plagued the early pages of this thread.
The 24H version of the Nurburgring is such a reward. A reward for the more experienced or skilled players and not particularly meant for the 'casual' player.
The 24h layout is also something that PD have used as a selling point for GT5 - it's the first time it's been featured in a serious console racer, as they've not been shy about telling us. Presumably the disclaimer of "75% of you will never experience this layout" was only in your personalized advertising; it certainly wasn't in anything I saw.
Having everything available from the very start would render the game very dull very quickly. One of the basic priciples of game design is "big challenges = big rewards", as is the case here.
I can't help thinking that some people just want all the buttons on the controller replaces with one, big "Win" button that, when pressed, completes the game for you.
This approach doesn't really work so well for games like GT and Forza. I'm certain I'm not the only one who views this GT Life grind to unlock (either literally, or figuratively by earning enough credits) the game content as a chore. I'm not having fun with the game yet - the point where I've unlocked/obtained the things I actually want to play with is the point where my enjoyable game time with GT5 will begin, not where it will end. The only question is whether I'll endure enough to get that far.
