Nurburgring 24hr report

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alech
That's impossible : the Sudschleife had been already abandoned when the GP track was built and it doesn't exist anymore. Anyhow , it went around the area where the GP track now stands. Check www.gdecarli.it or
http://www.racingcircuits.net to see a sudschleife map.
I would rather have liked the track from the '60s , as it is in GrandPrixLegends,
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Uhh... congratulations on completely misreading my post.

If you'd read carefully, I already mentioned that a lot of the Sudschleife is no longer in use and the parts that are still in use are used as public roads. :dunce:

If GT4 can have different versions of Fuji from different decades, I find there to be no discernable reason why it's unreasonable to think they could have three sections/versions of Nurburgring.

Here, for example is a combination of the Nordschleife, Sudschleife and current Grand Prix circuit:

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You could have Hohenrain feed into Sudkehre like how the full Nurburgring used to do, then sweep around to Bocksberg and back up to Scharfer Kopf and head back towards Nordkehre, then feed around to the Grand Prix circuit towards Ford-Kurve, around Dunlop-Kurve and Bit-Kurve and head back towards the Nordschleife and the Hatzenbach. This would work great because it would follow the North and South loop and keep with the clockwise direction of the current Grand Prix circuit.

It's a hypothetical flight of fancy, but I think it would be awesome.
 
Liquid Li0n
that circuit is so cool. Let's hope they put THAT in GT5

How much km is that? I know the nordschleiffe only is 20,3km
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Sadly, the Sudschliefe was partially destroyedand/or converted to public roads to make way for the current (and rather uninspiring) Grand Prix track, so I doubt we'll see it in GT5 as it no longer exists as a racing circuit.
 
If GT4 can have different versions of Fuji from different decades, I find there to be no discernable reason why it's unreasonable to think they could have three sections/versions of Nurburgring.
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Opps..messed up! :)
Sorry!
Pay no attention to this post!
 
Do you race?
Sadly, the Sudschliefe was partially destroyedand/or converted to public roads to make way for the current (and rather uninspiring) Grand Prix track, so I doubt we'll see it in GT5 as it no longer exists as a racing circuit.
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That's the stupidest assumption I've heard in a long time.

Fuji Speedway from the 80's obviously doesn't exist anymore but is in Gran Turismo 4.

Just because it doesn't exist anymore doesn't mean it can't be in a game.

The Sudschleife is very unlikely to be put into the next game, but I think it's unfair to say it's impossible just because it doesn't exist anymore.
 
moosejaw
That's the stupidest assumption I've heard in a long time.

Fuji Speedway from the 80's obviously doesn't exist anymore but is in Gran Turismo 4.

Just because it doesn't exist anymore doesn't mean it can't be in a game.

The Sudschleife is very unlikely to be put into the next game, but I think it's unfair to say it's impossible just because it doesn't exist anymore.
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I don't think I made what I was trying to say clear enough: most ordinary people wouldn't know what the original Sudschliefe was - when you mention the Southern Loop of the Nurburgring, they'd instantly think of the current Gran Prix circuit.
 
Do you race?
I don't think I made what I was trying to say clear enough: most ordinary people wouldn't know what the original Sudschliefe was - when you mention the Southern Loop of the Nurburgring, they'd instantly think of the current Gran Prix circuit.
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Of course you didn't say it clearly enough... your original post never mentioned anything about "most ordinary people" or what they thought the Sudschleife was. You simply were going on about how Sudschleife doesn't exist anymore and because of this sole reason couldn't be put into a game.

To be honest, I can't say I agree with your "most ordinary people" conclusion either.

Most people might not know what Nurburgring is, but assuming the person knows what the Nordschleife is, I'd bet they'd know what the Sudschleife was. And let's face it, at the end of the day it's not really about what the average ordinary person knows, it's what the programmers know. I'd like to think the Sony/Polyphony Digital people are pretty intelligent people and know enough of the history of Nurburgring to know what the Sudschleife was.

About the only decent premise for an opposing view is the theory that because Sudschleife doesn't exist anymore, that they couldn't recreate it simply because there's nothing to go measure/take photos of/etc. But then my automatic reaction to that is again that Fuji from the 80s doesn't exist anymore either and I'd assume that they relied on recorded information of the track to accurately portray it in Gran Turismo 4. There's countless information on the original Sudschleife though, so that theory kinda gets thrown out the window.

To answer someone else's question, I'd imagine that given the circuit lengths given, a combined Nord+Sud+GP Nurburgring course would be roughly 21 miles or just under 34 kms.

Which would totally rock.
 
Yes , i know that Fuji Speedway from the 80's doesn't exist anymore but is in Gran Turismo 4.
I know that they could do the same for the Sudschleife, getting data from pictures , original project , and so on.
But a combination of these three parts of the 'Ring would be meaningless because they don't exist at the same time.

Anyhow , there are (or were) many other beautiful tracks ,now abandoned , that could be included in a PD game ( what about a "GT legends" ? :) ) , before using programmers and disk space for the sudschleife.
 
alech
Yes , i know that Fuji Speedway from the 80's doesn't exist anymore but is in Gran Turismo 4.
I know that they could do the same for the Sudschleife, getting data from pictures , original project , and so on.
But a combination of these three parts of the 'Ring would be meaningless because they don't exist at the same time.

Anyhow , there are (or were) many other beautiful tracks ,now abandoned , that could be included in a PD game ( what about a "GT legends" ? :) ) , before using programmers and disk space for the sudschleife.
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At least Nordschleife and Sudschleife existed at the same time.

Nordschleife and the Grand Prix circuit exists concurrently.

All three would be asking too much, but not Nord and Sud at the same time.
 
moosejaw
At least Nordschleife and Sudschleife existed at the same time.

Nordschleife and the Grand Prix circuit exists concurrently.

All three would be asking too much, but not Nord and Sud at the same time.
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Yes , that would be great :
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Therefore you could even include the 4 versions of the track :
  1. Nordschleife
  2. Sudschleife
  3. Betonschleife
  4. Combined Circuit
 
hoi hooooooi~<3 :O! *begins waving his hands around in the air* I haaaave ^____^! Oh...hmmm...just thought I'd come in and say that :lol:! *runs out quickly* :p

AE86Driver

~Ja ne~

P.S. sorry for my pic being so blurry,but this is the total time of my endurance race that I posted about in a seperate thread :p. Some people in here probably know of me now just because of that and didn't even know me before then :lol:! The time reads: 24 hours,6 minutes,42 seconds,and 46X milliseconds (can't read the last number ;_;..I just took it quickly,cause my digital camera is a battery eater and that was the first time I had ever used a digital camera,so excuse the blurry please :O!)

P.P.S. You can go to my thread and look at my details for the endurance race and how it went at this link https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53921

Sorry if I caused any trouble by posting this link in another thread :bowdown:
 

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What cars do you guys choose to do the Nurburgring 24hr with?

I was thinking of doing it with either my 350Z LM car or maybe my Subaru WRX LM car.. what do you guys think?
 
Hi Everyone,

This is my first post here...I just tried lapping the ring in a C9 and it seems that getting the lap times below 5:30 is quite easy with practice. The reason I say that is because I got in the 5:40's in my first lap and 5:30 on my second lap. Both laps included mistakes that I know I can correct, but require getting used to the car (Maybe 10 more laps or so will do).

So I don't think the video (which I haven't seen, because I can't download the file) is fake or a demo. I think it's a real driver...If I can do 5:30 within 2 laps and not getting used the car at all, then I'm sure someone spending more time driving the C9 can get below the 5:30 mark easily.

When I have more time, I'll try to do more laps in the C9. The intital 2 laps where done in the free driving - real circuit area (GT mode not arcade) with default settings (so the driver assists are also set at default levels). I'll try with the assist off (set to zero) and I'll also try to make some suspension setting changes as well, since the car is very bad over bumps and has really bad understeer.
 
I also already asked that question but nobody answered. So I ask it again. What car you use for that 24h races. And how are the AI opponements?

I think I will it with a stock car (tuned of course) but it would be stupid to go in pits every 5 laps
 
Yeah, but one lap is more than 5 and a half minutes, so after 5 laps you already have driven for almost half an hour. Pitting every half an hour is not that strange (Track is very bumpy, so you also have lots of tire wear in real life)
 
yes your right. But I hope that AI isn't as dumb as in GT3 where they go every 2 laps in the pits(some cars do when AI drives it) even it is the 99th lap of 100 they go in pits. Its so stupid.

That's why those endurance races are actually easy, its just made difficult because it takes so long
 
I wouldn't recommend doing the 24 hours of Nurburgring in a tuned road car. The reason I say this is because they are heavier (even after weight reductions) and do not produce as much downforce as race cars. I would have to recommend taking some sort of race car, one that you can adjust downforce levels, because the downforce will help with the handling of the car, and more importantly, will help reduce tire wear.
 
hehe :O! Well,as I have stated before in previous post with link to my thread,I will also give details here -

Car Driven: BNR32 '89

Course: Nurburgring

I pit every two laps with my tyres getting in the yellow condition and my gas gauge one bar above the halfway mark. I COULD go 3 laps,but I would pit with about 4 bars left on my gas gauge and my tyres would be dark orange,close to red. So just to be on the safe side,I pit every two laps :lol:

I'm wanting to do another endurance race later this evening or over the weekend,but it won't be a 24 hour :lol:! It will be either the 6 or 9 hour..or maybe just one of the mileage ones with kilometers :p

otherwise,if you have questions about what happened during my 24 hour race at Nurb,go to the link provided in my previous post to check out details of 24 hour nonstop A-Specness :O

AE86Driver

~Ja ne~
 
I saw your thread, its good. But i'm going to do that with friends I guess.

But when you do it with a friend you have to do it twice or trice or you can copy the memorycards but then you have the same game both. Unless it is 0% by both then it is no big problem.
 
Does anyone have the link for the Sauber C9@ Nurburgring Lotsa people said it was the best thing they ever saw lol...too bad the link expired :( hopefully someone will have it.
 
I have a video of the Sauber C9 at the Nurburgring, I don't know if it is the one you want. I will try and post it but I can't promise anything (first time).
 

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