OSX Lion
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boiltheocean
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Yep, it's much faster than Snow Leopard and I've not run into any conflicts with apps yet. The new iCal is great(although ugly as sin) and I'm probably going to give Mail another shot now it's been updated. All the animations and transitional effects are very smooth which is surprising although I have found launchpad to be slightly laggy at times which is a shame as it's a really nice feature.
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I like the sound of the high resolution cursor, as advertised on the Apple website.
For some reason I never upgraded from the 1GB of ram on my '07 iMac, so it doesn't meet the 2GB minimum requirement. I guess you can count me out, for now at least.
For some reason I never upgraded from the 1GB of ram on my '07 iMac, so it doesn't meet the 2GB minimum requirement. I guess you can count me out, for now at least.
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Downloading it now too.
On another note: I want to upgrade my MBP's memory with a 4GB DDR 1066 kit. At Apple this costs 200 euro, at my local hardware shop a kit with the same specs costs 23 euro! Seriously, did Steve Jobs piss on each memory chip personally to make it that expensive?
On another note: I want to upgrade my MBP's memory with a 4GB DDR 1066 kit. At Apple this costs 200 euro, at my local hardware shop a kit with the same specs costs 23 euro! Seriously, did Steve Jobs piss on each memory chip personally to make it that expensive?
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I don't have a Mac and I personally use Ubuntu and have windows7 as a backup but I find it amazing that OSX Lion is only $30 when Windows7 is a couple hundred dollars. Why is that?
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Because they make ****loads of money with their hardware? 
Anyway, installed it. Installation was a bit scary for me: after downloading Lion from the app store, it rebooted into the recovery utilities screen without any message or hint. There's a list of options there, the first option is to restore a backup, then it lists the option to do a full Lion install, then some disk checking options. Mmmmm.....kay, what to do now? Let's try the full install: boom, no confirmation, no nothing, it just starts. Hmmmm, so is it going to erase all my stuff or not? Probably not, because there was no confirmation box, but I still wasn't too comfortable during the 30-minute install.
When it was finished, my familiar background picture popped back up along with all my icons in the task bar, so all was well. 👍
Reverse scrolling takes a bit to get used though.
Anyway, installed it. Installation was a bit scary for me: after downloading Lion from the app store, it rebooted into the recovery utilities screen without any message or hint. There's a list of options there, the first option is to restore a backup, then it lists the option to do a full Lion install, then some disk checking options. Mmmmm.....kay, what to do now? Let's try the full install: boom, no confirmation, no nothing, it just starts. Hmmmm, so is it going to erase all my stuff or not? Probably not, because there was no confirmation box, but I still wasn't too comfortable during the 30-minute install.
When it was finished, my familiar background picture popped back up along with all my icons in the task bar, so all was well. 👍
Reverse scrolling takes a bit to get used though.
Lain
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The different gestures are throwing me off though. I keep doing 4-finger swipes. I know you can set Mission Control to 4-finger, but I'll be able to get used to using just 3 eventually. I wish I could set Show Desktop to a 3-finger swipe down instead of this very annoying thumb and three finger garbage though. While the new gesture makes more sense in that it more closely matches the fancy animation, in practice it's much more cumbersome and annoying. A lot more gesture customization is needed. I really cannot stand the gestures for Show Desktop and Launchpad. Launchpad was the thing about Lion I was least excited for, but now that I think about it, I think I could've used it... if it weren't for the horrible gesture for it. Yuck. 👎
Install went smoothly. Got some weird errors from Tuxera NTFS regarding my bootcamp partition and my external drive upon booting into Lion for the first time,
My biggest gripe thus far is the inability to do 3-finger swipes to navigate back/forward in Firefox, even if I have the "swipe between full-screen apps" gesture set to 4 fingers.
Also, I've noticed a bug/oddity where if you go to the Dashboard from say, Desktop 3 or 4, then go into Mission Control from the Dashboard, it'll show Desktop 1 regardless. It should, at least in my opinion, show the last desktop you were on before you went to the Dashboard. Also regarding Desktops, I really wish you could name them...
Another oddity would be the animation of swiping between desktops. Desktops with icons clearly weren't a consideration, as the desktop is shown as barren until the swiping animation is finished. Then your icons pop into existence after a short delay. It looks really bad and gives the feeling that your computer's slow when really it isn't. Not too big of an issue, since I usually don't have as many icons on my desktop as I currently do, but still. The icons should already be present on the desktop as you swipe to it.
Despite all these gripes though, I'm enjoying Lion. Loving the tweaks to the UI, the full-screen apps, Mission Control, Versions, etc.
Though apparently the full-screen apps are still a work in progress themselves. iTunes keeps doing this after being open for a while:
Haven't been able to determine exactly what causes it. At first I thought it was from customizing the widgets on the Dashboard, and then I thought it was from viewing a Youtube video fullscreen, but I haven't been able to recreate it doing either.
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I haven't downloaded it yet, didn't even realize it was released until I saw a Facebook status about downloading it.
I'll probably at least wait until I play with it in an Apple Store to see how it goes before I buy it, plus my computer may be starting to get a bit old, so I need to see how it runs on older hardware before diving into it (it originally came with Tiger...).
I'll probably at least wait until I play with it in an Apple Store to see how it goes before I buy it, plus my computer may be starting to get a bit old, so I need to see how it runs on older hardware before diving into it (it originally came with Tiger...).
I bought lion 10am pst yesterday. Took while to download but everything worked fine. Installed fine.
I have mid 2010 $1200 21.5" 4gb imac.
I think lion is a nice small step. I don't care about anything new though because I won't use it. I could easily have held off till a worthy for me release comes. I just wanted newest. And I was hoping screen sharing work work from my iPad to lion imac because I want to use it while my father is using it. We both have user accounts. I don't know if this is possible though.
I like the bounce you get like ios when you reach end of page or window when scrolling. I like log on screen and new animation for ok Windows and stuff. New progress bar is nice too.
Is like a track pad that's for sure. Way better then magic mouse that imac came with. Always like it better on my mac book pro I use to have. So if I get one maybe ill like lion a bit more.
Don't care about mission control or face time or app store or launch pad. All stupid to me. Face time cool but no use for it. I really need remote access from my iPad though while my dad uses it at the same time but don't know how.
I have mid 2010 $1200 21.5" 4gb imac.
I think lion is a nice small step. I don't care about anything new though because I won't use it. I could easily have held off till a worthy for me release comes. I just wanted newest. And I was hoping screen sharing work work from my iPad to lion imac because I want to use it while my father is using it. We both have user accounts. I don't know if this is possible though.
I like the bounce you get like ios when you reach end of page or window when scrolling. I like log on screen and new animation for ok Windows and stuff. New progress bar is nice too.
Is like a track pad that's for sure. Way better then magic mouse that imac came with. Always like it better on my mac book pro I use to have. So if I get one maybe ill like lion a bit more.
Don't care about mission control or face time or app store or launch pad. All stupid to me. Face time cool but no use for it. I really need remote access from my iPad though while my dad uses it at the same time but don't know how.
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How would I go upgrading from Leapord to Lion directly. Would there be any compatabllity/data loss problems (if I lose any single slice of my 120GB's of data, I'll be in some serious 🤬)? I'm hoping not. 
Would I have any problems with my hardware? I dunno if my CPU and graphics card would handle Lion, if it needs any upgrades. My specs:
2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 1067 Mhz DDR3
160GB Hard Drive (solid state...I think)
13" LCD screen
I don't know about my graphics though, it's a late 2008 model Macbook Pro (not the one with the battery bit, it's all solid aluminum)
Also, would I have compatibility issues with my external hard drives etc. One of them I had had to be re-calibrated for Mac (which took about 6 hours of me staring and swearing at the computer screen...don't wanna go though that again).
Cheers
Would I have any problems with my hardware? I dunno if my CPU and graphics card would handle Lion, if it needs any upgrades. My specs:2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 1067 Mhz DDR3
160GB Hard Drive (solid state...I think)
13" LCD screen
I don't know about my graphics though, it's a late 2008 model Macbook Pro (not the one with the battery bit, it's all solid aluminum)
Also, would I have compatibility issues with my external hard drives etc. One of them I had had to be re-calibrated for Mac (which took about 6 hours of me staring and swearing at the computer screen...don't wanna go though that again).
Cheers
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The hardware is good, but depending on what applications you run, I think you need 4GB of memory instead of 2GB. I had similar specs and large apps (Photoshop, XCode, etc.) were swapping to disk like crazy. I installed 4GB (not from Apple of course
) and everything is super-smooth again. 👍
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That means 40 smackos instead of 20. Nice
The hardware is good, but depending on what applications you run, I think you need 4GB of memory instead of 2GB. I had similar specs and large apps (Photoshop, XCode, etc.) were swapping to disk like crazy. I installed 4GB (not from Apple of course
Mmk, I'll look into upgrading my RAM if possible. I run my Mac (like many others I've heard) like it's a flippin' LandRover. You know the drill, 15 applications, 120 bloody tabs in Firefox (lag is now my friend <3...the friend I hate). The CPU temp sits at around 80ºC constantly, sooo I think a few upgrades might be in order. I won't go too out there with it, seeing as I'll probably be up for a new computer sometime later next year, but I'll defo look into more RAM and Lion for the foreseeable next 18 months. I wish I could upgrade my CPU with one of those new fancy-pancy i5 processors...but Apple are retards and solder their CPU's to the motherboard.
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boiltheocean
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And that'll be $69 "smackos".
Everything I've heard is the upgrade is pretty easy and Lion is very nice. Still, especially if you've owned a Mac for a few years, make sure you have at least 4GB of RAM. RAM is cheap. Also, make doubly sure all your important apps are Intel native or Universal. You can check in System Profiler under Applications. Sort by Kind. Anything listed as PPC won't run in Lion, as it no longer supports Rosetta translation.
boiltheocean
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I think a switch of browsers is in order, for some unexplainable reason Safari uses a huge amount of resources to play a flash file then continues to use those resources even when you navigate away from a page with flash. I caught Safari Web Content using 1.3GB real memory in Activity Monitor just while browsing GTP because I watched a flash video half an hour before. It's absolutely killing my battery life.
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I'm quite certain that that is Adobe's fault.
I use Click to Plug In
http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/
boiltheocean
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I don't think so, the flash plug-in process ends after the flash video finished. It only ever used 100mb maximum. It's triggered by Flash for sure, but why it doesn't stop using all those resources is beyond me.
Actually I've tested it again and found it does the same with HTML5 video.
EDIT: So I've done a bit more researching and found I'm not alone, it's seems that disabling extensions is the best solution.
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It's $30, and can be shared among 4 additional family computers. I'd call that pretty cheap, actually. Windows 7 cost me a lot more than that. For what it's worth I'm not criticizing Windows 7 pricing. It's pretty fair given how good it is, and given how complex and essential an OS is. Still, $30 is cheap.
I'm not sure where you're going with this. There have been two iPads, and they were released a year apart. OS updates for them have also been free.
If it's kosher to discuss, I'd love to know how it goes for you. I haven't tried it with Lion.
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Lain
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Yo Lion, I'm really happy for you, imma let you finish, but Windows 8 will be one of the best operating systems of all time.
Old meme is old...
Currently playing around with the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my MacBook Pro. Both OSX and Windows are headed in the direction of unifying their desktop and mobile OSes, and I've gotta admit... Windows is way ahead of OSX in that regard.
With the exception of some minor glitches, Windows 8 is great. In the future I wouldn't be surprised if tablet PCs were also people's desktop PCs. Just plug it into a dock that allows you to use external peripherals such as keyboards, mice and external displays and you're set.
Old meme is old...
Currently playing around with the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my MacBook Pro. Both OSX and Windows are headed in the direction of unifying their desktop and mobile OSes, and I've gotta admit... Windows is way ahead of OSX in that regard.
With the exception of some minor glitches, Windows 8 is great. In the future I wouldn't be surprised if tablet PCs were also people's desktop PCs. Just plug it into a dock that allows you to use external peripherals such as keyboards, mice and external displays and you're set.
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Yo Lion, I'm really happy for you, imma let you finish, but Windows 8 will be one of the best operating systems of all time.
Old meme is old...
Currently playing around with the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my MacBook Pro. Both OSX and Windows are headed in the direction of unifying their desktop and mobile OSes, and I've gotta admit... Windows is way ahead of OSX in that regard.
LOL, the meme still makes me crack a smile though. Where's the picture?
Windows 8 looks pretty sweet and I'm looking forward to it. But until it's a shipping product, it's not ahead of anything. This is still an early preview.
Yeah, I think you're right. Take a look at the MacBook Air 11" and the 27" Thunderbolt Display. Plug in two tiny plugs and it feels like a desktop. Extrapolate from that and I imagine in a few years you can have something the size of an iPad, but with the horsepower to handle general computing that can be docked and used like a conventional PC.
