PC Master Race: What Are Your Thoughts?

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mika haka
No games sell much more on consoles than PC's for a reason.
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Have you heard of a little game called League of Legends? It's the most played game in the world and recently had a world final event at the freaking Staples Center in LA.
Nothing beats PC phenoms like WoW, Counter Strike, and LoL. The only thing that comes close are super blockbusters like CoD and GTA. And even those don't have the staying power and updates (keeping you from having to spend $60 every year for a new FIFA or CoD that's just a reskin) for free!

And plus! I can get LoL working on your computer in about 15 minutes from start to finish (assuming you'd have a decent internet connection of course). Super easy.

mika haka
No. The point is that I need to go through hoops on a PC just to get my game to work.
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So you can't give me an example of how this is true? So I'm to believe baseless, troll sounding, claims?
 
OMFG *facepalm* This PC Master Race thing was a JOKE? Maybe it's time to get on Reddit so I know about these things... 😐
 
WWE907
OMFG *facepalm* This PC Master Race thing was a JOKE? Maybe it's time to get on Reddit so I know about these things... ��
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It can be a joke. Like anywhere else where there are like products competing for the same space you're going to encounter arrogant (and ignorant!) morons who spout nonsense.

mika haka
Are you seriously trying to suggest that a PC is more plug and play than a console?
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Again, PnP does not mean what you think it means.
 
mika haka
When a PC works its miles better but you all have to face facts. They very rarely work and you have to spend time fine tuning things. That is not fun.

I would much rather just put in the blu ray and away I go, than spend days fine tuning.
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You say this at a time when playing games on the PC is at it's simplest. You buy a game on steam, download it and play it. Updates are installed automatically while you do other PC stuff and I'd argue that it's a much better experience than playing on a PS3 for example where you buy a game, insert the disk and have to wait for the initial install. Chances are you'll need to install a patch too from the slow servers Sony has. Or you could buy it on PSN and wait for the whole game to download from equally slow servers. So much for just putting a blu ray in and playing.
PC gaming has evolved past a stage where you had to faff about with play discs, install discs, cinematic discs and whatever else discs only to find that the game doesn't work past a certain stage or that some part of the game doesn't work due to a bug. It's an open platform, so there's competition giving us ways to buy, sell and play games.
And if a game doesn't work you can still google the problem and see if you can fix it yourself. Maybe there's a fan made patch which fixes everything or maybe there's a simple option you need to change. If that's too much work then yeah I suppose the better option is the console.
 
@T12
Nope, it is a joke since it started as one. Now the people that take it seriously are jokes themselves.

And Mika, you're hopeless. I'm asking you to give me examples of how you've had trouble setting up PC games, specific situations and games, but you refuse.

And no, I'm not saying at all that PC is "more plug and play," than consoles.
 
WWE907
OMFG *facepalm* This PC Master Race thing was a JOKE? Maybe it's time to get on Reddit so I know about these things...
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I think it was a Zero Punctuation review in which the word was mention that started the whole thing on Reddit, but I'm not sure.

(I know he mentioned somewhere, but I can't find the specific review, I think it was elder scrolls or something like that)
 
Wardez
@T12
Nope, it is a joke since it started as one. Now the people that take it seriously are jokes themselves.

And Mika, you're hopeless. I'm asking you to give me examples of how you've had trouble setting up PC games, specific situations and games, but you refuse.

And no, I'm not saying at all that PC is "more plug and play," than consoles.
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There was an example I posted earlier but I think it's more of a distributor error. Other than that I can't really find any major problems apart from really old games.
 
@ terronium what does PnP mean to you then?

@ Apok I have never had to search forums for a ps3 game to get it to work like a PC game.

@ WArdez RBR WRC and MW2 all had me searching forums just to get it to play the way I wanted.
 
Akira AC
World of Warcraft has sold 20 million copies.

That's more than GTA V, which is about the 15 million. And that is the best selling game to date.
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That's a terrible example.

GTA V has been out 3.5 weeks. WoW turns 10 next year & has only sold 10 million physical copies. Beyond that, the game is downloadable now as a trial without buying anything because it's all based on a subscription fee & is currently between 7-8 million subscribers.
 
McLaren
That's a terrible example.

GTA V has been out 3.5 weeks. WoW turns 10 years old next year & has only sold 10 million copies. Beyond that, the game is based on a subscription fee that says currently between 7-8 million subscribers.
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I know is a terrible example, but it was to showcase that PC games can sell just as well as console games.

Speaking of them, there is also another reason why there is no more number on PC than on consoles, is pretty much down to exclusives and the re release of the games after they come out on consoles.
 
mika haka
@ Apok I have never had to search forums for a ps3 game to get it to work like a PC game.
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Way to ignore my entire post.
And I've never had to search forums to get any game working. It was more of an example of how you CAN actually do something on the PC as opposed to hopelessly waiting for a patch on console.
 
mika haka
@ terronium what does PnP mean to you then?
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I have no specific or personalized definition, I only know the literal specification which is for a device or a computer bus (think USB, Firewire, PCI-E) to be recognized by a host system without physical configuration or user intervention of any kind.

Installing a game does not fall in the category. At all.
 
mika haka
@ WArdez RBR WRC and MW2 all had me searching forums just to get it to play the way I wanted.
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How did you want them to play? RBR's an old game, that's understandable. But with MW2 I can only assume it was laggy on your system. So that would be your fault for not having hardware powerful enough to run it. So almost like saying, "This PS3 game won't work on my PS2."
 
Silver-Sylph
Console are not that bad but PC is and always will be further ahead in performance compared to consoles.
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Of course PC's are better in performance but they will always lag behind consoles when it comes to PnP. Which is what the majority care about.

If PC's want to dominate then they would need to better optimise their game before release.
 
mika haka
Of course PC's are better in performance but they will always lag behind consoles when it comes to PnP. Which is what the majority care about.
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The only thing you can plug and play with a console are things like a controller, a remote, and a motion capture thing like the Move or the Kinect. Also maybe a hard drive depending on the system.

With a PC I can literally change any component I want and I can use it almost right away. If I wanted to change the graphics card in a console, I would have to perform major surgery and it probably wouldn't work.

If you mean installing a using games, which isn't plug and play at all, then really a console and PC aren't that different, especially since many console games require installs now.
 
I think his definition of plug and play is "insert disc->play game".

Something that Steam beats already, now you "download game" and play, with a good connection it doesn't take more than 2 to 3 hours (depending on the game of course), no trips to gamestop or making queues, everything done from home.
 
Joey D
The only thing you can plug and play with a console are things like a controller, a remote, and a motion capture thing like the Move or the Kinect. Also maybe a hard drive depending on the system.

With a PC I can literally change any component I want and I can use it almost right away. If I wanted to change the graphics card in a console, I would have to perform major surgery and it probably wouldn't work.

If you mean installing a using games, which isn't plug and play at all, then really a console and PC aren't that different, especially since many console games require installs now.
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Yeah but all of that takes effort which the console market doesn't care about.

Trust me its all about PnP and until PC's take it seriously they will always lag behind. Most gamers will give up after searching for about 5 mins.
 
Either learn what PnP is or stop using it to further whatever nonsensical argument you're attempting to make.
 
mika haka
Yeah but all of that takes effort which the console market doesn't care about.

Trust me its all about PnP and until PC's take it seriously they will always lag behind. Most gamers will give up after searching for about 5 mins.
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Plug and play has nothing to do with putting a game in the disc tray. Plug and play means putting a piece of hardware in a slot and having it work, not software.

And if you don't feel like being bothered to do anything with a PC there are hundreds of pre-built machines out there from $300-$3,000.
 
Akira AC
I know is a terrible example, but it was to showcase that PC games can sell just as well as console games.

Speaking of them, there is also another reason why there is no more number on PC than on consoles, is pretty much down to exclusives and the re release of the games after they come out on consoles.
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If you were to give them 10 years to do so when in actuality, they never did? You more or less, proved his point more than the one you were attempting to make.

Something like The Sims or strategic/simulation games would be better thanks to a computer's superior mouse & keyboard control for those games.
 
Piracy :(

There's just as much or more people actually playing games on PC. Sales figures don't tell everything.
 
McLaren
If you were to give them 10 years to do so when in actuality, they never did? You more or less, proved his point more than the one you were attempting to make.

Something like The Sims or strategic/simulation games would be better thanks to a computer's superior mouse & keyboard control for those games.
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Okay, then Halo 3 vs Minecraft, of for that matter Black Ops vs Diablo III.
 

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