PD Cmon!!!! release dlc with content for reasonable price!

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And for instance, the aventador popped as soon as it was ready for the streets, they have ties with the manufacturers. The manufacturers have interest in the cars being in the game too! Any car we want (minus Zuffenhausen´s finest) it´s 2 or 3 KY´s phone calls away.
 
It´s not the cars, it´s the extra content, they come with 2-4 tracks and 10+ multiple race events. I want more races offline, more events tailored for the cars I purchased via dlc.

"I want more races offline, more events tailored for the cars I purchased via dlc."

There it is then. You want. Who cares? PD doesn't, because they have a business to run.

Somehow people these days think that their opinion is so valuable that everyone has to pay attention to it and act accordingly. Somehow the internet, socialmedia etc is messing with people's minds. The size of the ego's nowadays is absolutely astounding, and definitly not in a good way.
 
Au contraire.... ps3+ds3+g27+playseat+ gt5 collectors edition pre-bough (40-50 bucks more )+ all dlc´s VS ps3+ds3(?)+gt5+dlc(?).... who´s cheap?
And since a company chooses to do this like they did AND I PAID FOR IT, I am entitled to my opinion. This forum is not PD´s fanboys place only, is it?

Know your place, you are a consumer. If you don't like it:

DON'T CONSUME!
 
It´s not the cars, it´s the extra content, they come with 2-4 tracks and 10+ multiple race events. I want more races offline, more events tailored for the cars I purchased via dlc.

I don't know how easy that is to do really, also why would you want them offline? The seasonals are an extension of GT life just not offline. Also I think GT life offline events already on the game are hardlined in and I'm not sure if content for that area can be expanded. However, I don't know that for sure and am probably wrong on that part someone will tell me otherwise I'm sure.
 
This forum is not PD´s fanboys place only, is it?

Oh, Now that is a hilarious question if I ever did see one. It's practically 1:1 with the fans and the haters on this particular section of the forum.
 
We get FREE events frequently in the for of seasonals weekly or bi-weekly. Again I say FREE. We have gotten DLC with cars and a few tracks and have been told more to come. On the other hand op, shift was quickly abandoned by EA. The game was good but gt5 is great. EA wouldn't even fix their known issues while PD keeps updating regularly! Like it or not, you ARE getting more for your money with GT5. Shift 2 gameplay is short lived while GT5 continues to grow. If you don't like the % per dlc then don't buy it and play broken Shift 2! Then you wouldn't have to start a thread to complain and could find another forum to vent:tup:.......

Sorry if this offends but it's just my $0.02 :sly:
 
I don't know how easy that is to do really, also why would you want them offline? The seasonals are an extension of GT life just not offline. Also I think GT life offline events already on the game are hardlined in and I'm not sure if content for that area can be expanded. However, I don't know that for sure and am probably wrong on that part someone will tell me otherwise I'm sure.

Believe you me, it´s not that hard for a company that´s been doing much more for longer than some members lifetime. They are not 3 guys trying to put their first Sim/game on the market.
Gt5 prologue had one make events for every car, why it isn´t in gt5?
Why can´t there be a special event for the TC cars, LMP cars,DRIFT(school and events) etc. I just have to complete(wich i won´t) the 24h races and the game is all done for me. All golds, all cars, everything.
 
At the rate it´s going, in 2 more DLC, we´ll have paid as much as the game for an adition of 4 tracks and no more than 20 cars? In gt6 the ecu tune is gonna cost over 100USD at this rate.... Are you guys fine with this, really? I didn´t buy any more cod´s because of this. Dirt and codemasters didn´t get my money either. I much rather spend on my real car.

If you stop buying games that put out DLC and charge for it, you are going to find yourself with a very limited selection of minor titles. Or what I do is wait until the Game of the Year / Complete Edition / Ultimate edition and buy the game when it is actually finished and get it for less than the original game. I made an exception for GT5, as PD can have as much of my money as I can afford for all the hours of fun the have given me over the years and Battlefield 3, as FPS are online heavy, so you really have to play when they are new.

I don't think PD had to do anything to get an Aventador, Lambo are working hard right now to increase their brand visibility I even saw Lambo headphones the other day!?!
 
^My guess is that they were just beats by Dr. Dre with the Lambo colors and logo.
 
Oh, Now that is a hilarious question if I ever did see one. It's practically 1:1 with the fans and the haters on this particular section of the forum.
I´m seeing firsthand with my own 2 eyes....
It´s free but if they never updated it and treated like many titles it would be the end of gt series. Apart from endurance races you can finish gt in a few hours. It took me literally years to complete way less than 100% in other gt games.
How many of you voted for mini coutryman 2wd(Why not the 4?) or nissan leaf to be included in the game? How many of you rather gotten lets say a mini jcw and a datsun premium´d? Probably mini and nissan paid PD too to get the cars in the game.
taken from kaz´s speech for delaying the game "our objective with Gran Turismo 5 was to create another great revolution which would not only satisfy our own high expectations, but would meet or even exceed the anticipation of the fans. Satisfying the loyal Gran Turismo followers is at the heart of all of our efforts "
I think they are scraping and doing the bare minimum! really, 3 races every 2 weeks? i´d rather have 1 bi monthly 20-race event.
 
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I don't think PD had to do anything to get an Aventador, Lambo are working hard right now to increase their brand visibility I even saw Lambo headphones the other day!?!

how did the car ended up in the game then?Did lambo hired a computer guy, digitalized the car, hacked pd and added to the dlc list?
 
Wow, i'm jobsmacked how this thread has managed to stay open for so long.

Its gone from "I should get free DLC as i'm special" to discounts, functionality, to a wishlist, to just about anything the OP can take a pot shot at PD about basically.

My only suggestion at this point is that the op goes and makes his own car game, tailored to his own exact needs as its pretty clear he is not going to be happy till then.
 
Au contraire.... ps3+ds3+g27+playseat+ gt5 collectors edition pre-bough (40-50 bucks more )+ all dlc´s VS ps3+ds3(?)+gt5+dlc(?).... who´s cheap?
And since a company chooses to do this like they did AND I PAID FOR IT, I am entitled to my opinion. This forum is not PD´s fanboys place only, is it?

Whatever Frenchie. Not sure why the fact you have a G27 and a playseat is relevant... You think PD got that money? For the record, i have all that stuff too and you're still a cheap jerk.
 
Whatever Frenchie. Not sure why the fact you have a G27 and a playseat is relevant... You think PD got that money? For the record, i have all that stuff too and you're still a cheap jerk.

keep buying, keep playing and keep out of this thread, simple....
 
keep buying, keep playing and keep out of this thread, simple....

You open the thread, you have your opinions and others have theirs. People gave you suggestions and advice to what you should do but your rant turned from one thing to another and now you're simply taking snipes at anybody who disagrees with your logic.
 
don´t buy it, great advice/suggestion..... How didn´t I think about it before?
You don´t want anything more out of this game? it´s perfect for you?
 
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We get FREE events frequently in the for of seasonals weekly or bi-weekly. Again I say FREE.

Curious here, would you pay for seasonals?

Again I say would you pay for the seasonals?
 
DLC buyers kinda are footing the bill. With that cash they can keep everybody in their jobs. They keep working because they want us in gt6 and up, and they know they overpromissed/underdelivered.
At this point I rather pay for tracks and content rather than cars.
 
Believe you me, it´s not that hard for a company that´s been doing much more for longer than some members lifetime. They are not 3 guys trying to put their first Sim/game on the market.
Gt5 prologue had one make events for every car, why it isn´t in gt5?
Why can´t there be a special event for the TC cars, LMP cars,DRIFT(school and events) etc. I just have to complete(wich i won´t) the 24h races and the game is all done for me. All golds, all cars, everything
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Okay first off, never made a claim that PD is feeble and can't do certain things, it is obvious they can. However, there is a reciprocal effect that you seem to forget, they can't do everything. If PD could, then everytime a patch is introduced to fix bug several new bugs wouldn't appear like they do now. You don't know if PD can hardline new offline events and neither do I so you missed what I was trying to say. I never said they couldn't what I did say was I was unsure but maybe the might not be able to. Hence why we have seasonals instead. Also you didn't even answer my question to why you want offline events when we have online events that are a extension of the offline ones.

For the part I bolded, yes this would be nice and so would many other things like actual group of LMP cars and not just a handful or them and then 90s GT1 or P1 car and late 80s early 90s group C cars. There is a big difference between the three groups and it's all in regulation, but PD seem to not understand that and it is seen when they pair them against each other in offline and online aspec races. Not sure why you'd want unrealistic pairings. There have been one make races before GT5 prolouge, I'm not sure if you're aware of that but they've been around for sometime in the gt world. Why they stopped for this game is beyond me.

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This also seems to be less about price and more about you wanting GT to have certain content. So this is more of a rant and wishlist combined into one. We have enough of these by the way.
 
Sometimes we rent a place to vacation for a month(like in 2 weeks from now) and the place barely got phone reception. So we end up doing time trials and after a while it get´s boring. It´s not like in previous gt´s that u looked foward for multiple players at your house to get u going to the next level.... I know they won´t issue a recall and redo everything But 2 races every 2 weeks seems too little too late....
PS why there always was the space for the speed test below the special events? there are somethings you grow to expect from an "evolving" game...
 
Yea, I am also very unhappy about their DLC pricing. :scared:

One easy calculation:

With the stock game we got for 60$: 223 Premium cars (not included the paid DLC cars, Stealth & ChromeLine, and not the Standard cars because they are ported from older GT games).

And we got 27 tracks (multiple versions of one track don't count, because they are the same track).


Now let's say 50% of the 60$ are for the 223 cars & the other 50% for the 27 tracks.

30$ / 223 = 0,14$ per car!
30$ / 27 = 1,11$ per track!

Now, that's what I would call a FAIR PRICE!

And guys, another thing you don't have to forget, all the new content they creating now, the DLC you pay for, you will pay 2x when you later buy GT6! All the content is for sure already created in 1080p & can later ported 1 to 1 into GT6. A game for what you pay again 60$.

Now, think again. :D
 
I said it at the start they will never do region, make, car type specific DLC they will mix them up so suckers that want one or two of the cars from each pack have to buy every pack. Its a marketing strategy.

close the thread
 

30$ / 223 = 0,14$ per car!
30$ / 27 = 1,11$ per track!

Now, that's what I would call a FAIR PRICE!


You would, anyone would, but SCE would laugh.

Prices are not set by developers, but by publishers.

You can't expect that GT comes on PSN as an some MLP unicorn and start to dump the overall DLC pricing-points of the established business-model - not only on PS3, but an all platforms in gaming business in general.

It is not Polyphony Digital that determines the prices, nor it is Sony alone. It is market consisted of all players in the gaming business. In the very moment when majority of consumers agreed how 15$ per 3 maps in COD games was a "fair price", everything went down the drain. And to remind you, that was in 2007.

In situation where PD would come and demand that prices for GT5 DLC should be less than "average", all third-party developers would get their lawyers on SCE in the very minute.

Also, even if Kazunori have wanted to release this particular "Machine Test" feature and corresponding "Route X" track for free (or for 1$ let's say), I am betting you 10.000$ and my GTP account how head of finances in SCE just laughed and said "No way Kazusama" with big smile. If the business-model of charging the content has been established, you don't abandon that business model. Because you will never be able to sell anything in the future because customers would point their fingers is similar type of content already being given for free (or 1$).

It is business-model we're talking about here. This-gen gaming business-model, where publishers have advance plans to recuperate costs of development and marketing with post-release revenues (DLC) - or - to make extra-profit through post-release revenues.

Call of Duty started it all, it was Activision/COD that first raised the price-barrier for retail games from 50$ to 60$ in 2007 and established a high-price DLC policy. EA followed in minute and set their own model up to Activisions. And from 2007 onwards everything became doomed.

It is not a simple thing. If any of here complaining would just for a moment reconsider actual complexity of being in hardware/software business, comments and opinions would certainly be much more logical and mature.
 
Well said/written, Amar. But this game unlike most, is PS3 only. If we don´t buy it, they don´t have another revenue stream, no xbox or pc to make it up to. So unlike multi-platform games, this is one of the last remaining places we have (a very little) saying.
For instance if we get sick and tired and move in a significant quantity to forza, PD and Sony will do something about it.
BTW, Amar, how´s the elite wheel? Before launch I was considering buying it but am not too sure by now.
 
But this game unlike most, is PS3 only. If we don´t buy it, they don´t have another revenue stream, no xbox or pc to make it up to. So unlike multi-platform games, this is one of the last remaining places we have (a very little) saying.

And like GT series, there are many other PS3 exclusives - as well as exclusives on another platforms too, like Halo on X360 or whatever - that have only one platform to sell their DLC. But being exclusive or not makes no difference really.

When you do both hardware (consoles) and software (games, DLC, services) business - like all 3 major player does (Nintendo not so much, but will recuperate with incoming Network and WU console) - you have to takes few things in perspective. And one of the most important *things* are third-party publishers.

You can partially *ignore* their retail sales-prices (where Activison and EA games are more expensive than other games in average, for example than first-party mainly) but you can't really play smart an dump the established model of pricing on the post-retail digital markets (Live, PSS). Why? Because they could just play *wiseboy* on you.

And guess what - PlayStation users already have consequences of such *wiseboyism* - where Activision and Rockstar agreed a special terms with Microsoft regarding DLC-policies and exclusivity for two most important franchises in the gaming today: COD and GTA. You don't have to be particularly smart to tie 2-and-2 together and realise amount of actual influence of loss in sales for both hardware (PS3 console) and software (PS3 games, theoretical DLC and direct income that comes to Sony in this case through "platform-fees") by just those 2 *wiseboy deals*.

You do not play with third-party in this business. They can both make you very successful or throw you into the quicksand and play with the straw while you draining just for lulz.

Once you establish the rules and once the majority of market accepts them, there is no turning back. At least until the day when both COD/GTA/FIFA sales plummet because players will stop to buy actual games and DLC for reasons of high-pricing, but we all know it will never happen.

For instance if we get sick and tired and move in a significant quantity to forza, PD and Sony will do something about it.

Well, not such a big difference really. Only current DLC for Forza have been cars-packs (still no tracks) and only thing they've actually patched is wheel support and steering-model. No bug fixes, no added functionality, no new options, nothing.

But we got 40 cars so far (I purchased Seasonal Pass to get a discount back in the November) with some support in Rivals Mode (when servers work of course). However, you still have to purchase them with the in-game currency in order to actually have them on disposal in your garage, which is still the stupidest policy I have ever witnessed in the genre.

But people are happy I guess, nobody never complains about anything in Forza (and when somebody does he's either ignored or labelled as troll) and world keeps turning.

BTW Never forget how you have to pay annual fee of 40$ to be able to use online (Live) functionality of the FM4, which is basically the complete of Community options in the game (Rivals, Auction House, online multiplayer, *seasonal* races and challenges, etc..) - when we already speak about the pricing and what is fair.

BTW, Amar, how´s the elite wheel? Before launch I was considering buying it but am not too sure by now.

Great, even better than on start. Last firmware made it even better on both PS3 and X360 (GT5 and Forza 4 especially) and it is still the best wheel I have ever driven on.
 
I don´t care about kaz obsession with glaring and shades, i just want a decent cockpit view, some very nice cars and nice tracks. Graphics to that level are not my priority, the feeling of the wheel compared to what i´ve drove is.
How does the elite behaves on rumble strips(in gt5) because in most other games my g27 feels like you´re going over them but gt5 not so much. This is the only thing I love from the ds3 controller, that vibration telling you´re at the right place.
I was checking yesterday forza car packs and that Ruf (is on fire).... hehe , that season pass sounds like a good deal. I know that´s what i would´ve bought.
 
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