PD Cmon!!!! release dlc with content for reasonable price!

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Amar if you can't afford the DLC cars in game ill gift them to you.

How anyone could moan about in game costs when credits are thrown at you baffles me.

Also last time you raced me I couldn't catch you due to a faulty throttle sensor in my CSP. ( sounds like Prost I know ).

I'm firing on all cylinders know though if you want a rematch.

Got to get in early though. I have an operation next week.

Take care.
 
Spagetti69
Curious here, would you pay for seasonals?

Again I say would you pay for the seasonals?
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Nope, but the point was the fact that we get free content continually. Unlike other games that give a little then head for the hills and onto the next game. If people have a problem with DLC, I'm pretty sure there is no one banging down the door forcing them to buy it. People should be thankful they get anything new from PD AND STOP COMPLAINING. Sadly it is impossible for PD to satisfy everyone.
 
Haha, it is not matter of affording, but the actual logic of implementation - but you know what I mean :)

And please, let us not discuss this in here, you know how things can get dirty fast - I was just using that as example of handling the post-release for the game on the very example he provided :)

Rematch is natural - whenever you say so, I'l be glad!

Stay safe for the operation and best wishes for fast recovery 👍
 
danielc
I was checking yesterday forza car packs and that Ruf (is on fire).... hehe , that season pass sounds like a good deal. I know that´s what i would´ve bought.
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Well... If they do what they did with Forza 3. U'll get ripped off. What they did is sell the DLC (Which is already on disc anyway). Then at a later date release an ultimate edition. It was half the price of the original game and had all DLC attached.

We've had alot of free stuff from PD. like updates and some cars. The updates might not of been necessary if wasn't for Sony rushing PD into releasing the game a year early. Sony is also responsible for pricing of DLC. Not PD.
 
Can you please respond to that via pm, then.
Like i said, If pd after hyping the game so much and underdelivering, it was the bare minimum to keep the support up until it was up to THEIR standard. If they just dropped after v1 even this forum would be a ghost town and they would not repeat sales of previous titles meaning they wouldn´t have a chance to build gt6 or dare I say, gt7.
What differs in this case is Kaz that wants to do this, unlike other companies. The guy is passionate, for better or worse.
 
Bom15
Then at a later date release an ultimate edition. It was half the price of the original game and had all DLC attached.
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Doesn't sound like a rip off, seems like a bargain to me.
I don't suppose there's a GT equivalent in the pipeline.

@Amar. Agreed. Talking about dirty.
Dirt 3 complete edition was announced today. There not even trying to insult gamers intelligence with that title.
 
Spagetti69
Doesn't sound like a rip off, seems like a bargain to me.
I don't suppose there's a GT equivalent in the pipeline.
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Its a rip off when u consider the people who bought it new (£40-£60), then forked out the cash to buy all the DLC or subscribe (£15-£40). Then to find out they were gonna release it at a later date for less than half price (£20 or less). Especially at the price of some of the DLC's being released. Non of it is new content either. But its not just Forza. As you just mentioned Codemasters are following suit. Didn't PD release another copy of GT with PS Store cards for DLC? But PD slightly differs where the content your paying for is actually new. Then there's all the updates, seasonals, free stuff to. GT5 was released too early by Sony not PD. Kaz also said he never wanted DLC. That would be Sony again.
 
Bom15
Its a rip off when u consider the people who bought it new (£40-£60), then forked out the cash to buy all the DLC or subscribe (£15-£40). Then to find out they were gonna release it at a later date for less than half price (£20 or less).
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while you might thinks its a rip-off plenty of others wouldn't, if you want to play a game when it first comes out then you pay the cost of a new game, if you want a complete everything included edition for $20 then you wait a year or two for it to appear.
 
RichyJ
while you might thinks its a rip-off plenty of others wouldn't, if you want to play a game when it first comes out then you pay the cost of a new game, if you want a complete everything included edition for $20 then you wait a year or two for it to appear.
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In 1 or 2 years, we may get GT6 with, not just every content, but new game design and features for 60 dollars. Or, as most of us seem to agree here, we can pay $120+ in the next 2 years just for GT5 DLC (assuming its $4-$10 every two months).

While I'm not complaining about the DLC, we have to draw a line somewhere. If we do keep this up in the coming years, Sony or even PD themselves will have no problem taking advantage of the demanding market for DLCs, and charge even more in the future. Look at Call of Duty. Do you really think as they got more popular, they'd be nicer? Nope, they got greedier. Its marketing at its best, and sometimes we consumers just give in too easily.

Again, I'm only thinking of future possibilities... not currently.
 
No one spends more than 100 bucks on Dlc for a PS3 game. No game in the Ps3 life cycle has yet to go over such a ridiculous price for Dlc. Let alone be supported for that long.

My god people are really becoming cheap on gaming.
 
RichyJ
while you might thinks its a rip-off plenty of others wouldn't, if you want to play a game when it first comes out then you pay the cost of a new game, if you want a complete everything included edition for $20 then you wait a year or two for it to appear.
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Okay i'll rephrase. It's disappointing for those who forked out the cash for the DLC for it to be released at a later date with a half price game. The DLC will still be available for people without complete editions in there respective console stores for the same price. If a complete edition is released then maybe they should lower the price of the DLC? Some people can't wait a year or 2 for the complete edition. By then the excitement for the game has usually gone. And alot of people would've gone to other games. After a few years some gaming companies close the servers for that game. Making online gaming useless.

daus26
While I'm not complaining about the DLC, we have to draw a line somewhere.
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I agree with you. I'm not complaining about DLC if it expands the game. Unfortunately most companies are selling u stuff already on the disc you bought. That's where it needs to change.
 
sumbrownkid
No game in the Ps3 life cycle has yet to go over such a ridiculous price for Dlc. Let alone be supported for that long.
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Did you just make up that fact? Seems to me you did.

Rockband/Singstar.
 
Bom15
Okay i'll rephrase. It's disappointing for those who forked out the cash for the DLC for it to be released at a later date with a half price game. The DLC will still be available for people without complete editions in there respective console stores for the same price. If a complete edition is released then maybe they should lower the price of the DLC? Some people can't wait a year or 2 for the complete edition. By then the excitement for the game has usually gone. And alot of people would've gone to other games. After a few years some gaming companies close the servers for that game. Making online gaming useless.

I agree with you. I'm not complaining about DLC if it expands the game. Unfortunately most companies are selling u stuff already on the disc you bought. That's where it needs to change.
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I'll say this again. A pricepoint is set for content and anything extra is just that. Whether it is on the disc or not is moot.

If you order a hamburger you pay 4-5 usd....for cheese you pay an extra 40 cents...bacon is also 40-50 cents.

You do not need either to enjoy a hamburger but you have access to them if you choose.
 
However you get to say if you want your bacon uncooked up to extra crispy, wich we don´t have here. IF they did 80-100 cars by now, I certainly woudn´t have bought any nissans´s or minis BUT would have probably spent more than I already did. Extra crispy style....
 
Rudenut
If you order a hamburger you pay 4-5 usd....for cheese you pay an extra 40
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lol. interesting way of putting it. Anyway i think u missed the point i'm making. The point is selling you a full game. Then hiding half the contents to get you to pay for it. In your burger terms its like selling you half a burger then someone saying 'Okay give me an etc $2 so you can finish it.' The cheese is what an add on should be. something to expand the flavour of the full burger. If that makes sense?
 
Bom15
lol. interesting way of putting it. Anyway i think u missed the point i'm making. The point is selling you a full game. Then hiding half the contents to get you to pay for it. In your burger terms its like selling you half a burger then someone saying 'Okay give me an etc $2 so you can finish it.' The cheese is what an add on should be. something to expand the flavour of the full burger. If that makes sense?
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So you don't believe PD should release any DLC?
 
DLC is fine. But it should be new stuff NOT on the discs already. Hiding half of the contents and then getting you to buy it. I believe is wrong. Back in the day before internet there wasn't a problem. You used to buy expansion discs for some games which added content. PD differs because there content is new. EA's, Codemasters etc isn't always new, but on the disc already.
 
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Bom15
DLC is fine. But it should new stuff not on the discs already.
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But some here have said that Sony forced PD to release the game.
Kaz has reportedly stated he wanted an extra 2 years to complete the game.

So has Sony released a game and withheld content by it actions?
Is the content now being released as DLC, content that should have been on the disc.

Are they (PD/Sony) no different to Forza by releasing unfinished work and then charging for it?
 
I was one of the people that said Sony pushed the release of GT5. The content we're being sold now probably should've of been in GT5 to start with. But because of Sony it wasn't. The thing is we'll probably not know wether the DLC should've been in the game to start with. Some of the content added was stuff we've asked for. So who knows. I also said that Kaz didn't want DLC for GT5. But that was probably down to Sony again. For money reasons or Kaz not being happy. Whatever. The DLC for GT5 is still content that isn't part of the game as it was sold. Forza, EA, Codemasters have had all/most of there cars on the disc already. They also weren't rushed into production like GT5 was. Plus most of there DLC is available the day the games released.
 
Bom15
lol. interesting way of putting it. Anyway i think u missed the point i'm making. The point is selling you a full game. Then hiding half the contents to get you to pay for it. In your burger terms its like selling you half a burger then someone saying 'Okay give me an etc $2 so you can finish it.' The cheese is what an add on should be. something to expand the flavour of the full burger. If that makes sense?
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If we had to pay for the updates that are finishing the game you may have a valid point. We recieved much more than half a game, even if flawed. Cars and tracks are cheese and bacon.
 
Rudenut
If we had to pay for the updates that are finishing the game you may have a valid point. We recieved much more than half a game, even if flawed.
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Its not just GT5 i'm talking about. Its games in general.
 
Bom15
Its not just GT5 i'm talking about. Its games in general.
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Another way of looking at it is selling a car, and the tuning the same engine up, calling it sport and charging for it. The capability was always there, just unavailable.

Also, whether content is on a disc is moot. The pricepoint is set for whatyou get. At least you don't have to download the content.
 
Rudenut
Also, whether content is on a disc is moot. The pricepoint is set for whatyou get. At least you don't have to download the content.
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You used to pay for a full game like GT3 or FM1 for example. And you got what u paid for. A full game. Now you pay the same price. Then have to pay maybe a quarter of the price for an unlock code. Btw PD's DLC you do download. It comes part of an update. And also why use Moot so much. Do you mean either 'Open for debate' or as a moot point 'Not of significance'? Because it does have significance and it is open for debate. Hence this debate.
 
Bom15
You used to pay for a full game like GT3 or FM1 for example. And you got what u paid for. A full game. Now you pay the same price. Then have to pay maybe a quarter of the price for an unlock code. Btw PD's DLC you do download. It comes part of an update. And also why use Moot so much. Do you mean either 'Open for debate' or as a moot point 'Not of significance'? Because it does have significance and it is open for debate. Hence this debate.
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It is a moot point. You and others have no say. People have obviously given their opinion by buying dlc. The dlc system works and is liked by most people. If that changes people will not buy them and the system will change. It is also moot because the price given is for content the devs choose to release. The fact that unfinished content and finished but unreleased content is on a physical disc means nothing. The features you recieve on release are what you pay for. If you don't want more don't unlock it. The disc may be yours, but the content on the disc is owned wholly by the dev and it's affiliates.
 
Bom15
You used to pay for a full game like GT3 or FM1 for example. And you got what u paid for. A full game. Now you pay the same price. Then have to pay maybe a quarter of the price for an unlock code.
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Hate to break it to you my friend but those days are over. This is they way of gaming going forward. Initial price + additional cost for DLC. PD is just following suit with the rest of the industry. No one to be upset at other than progress.
 
I know and i miss them days. For me its a shame that games are heading this direction. It wouldn't be so bad if it was new content. But as u said those days are over :(.
 

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