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Slashfan
I am NOT paying $70 for a god damn game. Ever. $60 is bad enough.
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Don't worry, it's only EA. It's not as if they've released a game worth buying on day one for the past couple of years and I don't expect that'll change any time soon!
 
Tesla
Average income per year for a typical household is about $60k.
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"The latest Census data has the median household income in the US at $50,500. But as the chart above highlights one out of four US households are living with less than $25,000 per year in household income."

So you'll pay that G for a PS3 and LIKE IT!
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Toronado
So EA is going to raise the price on their games even though Sony wants games set at $60 again?
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Seeing as they are the Only publisher that seem to have this idea at the moment, I can't say I'm suprised.
 
Slashfan
Not in the US.
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It definitely was at the beginning of this generation, only for third party titles though. Sony never used higher prices than 59,99$.
Toronado
So EA is going to raise the price on their games even though Sony wants games set at $60 again?
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I think publishers can decide how high they want to go, but Sony said the prices for games (not sure anymore if they were talking about downloads only) will be between 0,99 and 60$.

I doubt games will be more expensive in the end.
If you shop clever, you will never pay RRP anyway.
 
Earth
I agree about its tiring to see another Killzone or another Infamous. But people eat that up. Its not the developers fault for making those games, its the gamers fault for supporting them by buying them. Its like how everyone complains about all the movie sequels and reboots but they're the first in line to watch them.

I agree the games industry is stale. I havent bought a game in over a year. In fact I buy very few games as I am very particular and rehashes are almost never appealing to me. If more gamers became more selective they have no choice but to make newer, fresher games.
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I like the Killzone universe lore and story, IMO more down to earth than Halo. There are't too many game franchises that make you feel bad for Antagonists(the ISA lol). Shadow fall is a new direction for the series, we know very little of how the gameplay is going to play along with the story telling. Sony needs to carry at least one exclusive FPS, The KZ story is worth continuing unlike Resistance's. Resistance will die with the PS3 and they more than likely will get a second FPS at some point.

Sony has a long list of other games and new IP's with new Idea(wonderbook :(), they are not a one trick pony(Nintendo). They are the best at delivering good new games. Nothing wrong with keeping Killzone going, its variety and they always keep it fresh with new systems. It's accepting the games that's the problem(wonderbook)

We haven't seen half of what PS4 will offer, too many people have made their minds up based on the very little we've seen in 2 hour show.
 
neema_t
Don't worry, it's only EA. It's not as if they've released a game worth buying on day one for the past couple of years and I don't expect that'll change any time soon!
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Bahhha! They are the ones who started the whole "ProjectTenDollar" that THQ, UbiSoft and every other publisher copied in the first place. If anything, I think that they will force Sony to go up $10 on the MSRP of the disk.

If prices goes up on everything and incomes stay the same or worse, then there is trouble.
 
I was hoping they would bump up either the clock speed of current processor or use 4 SteamRoller cores. They have done the former if rumour is true and this should keep PS4 remaining a very power efficient gaming console: http://ps4daily.com/2013/02/playstation-4-cpu-runs-at-2-ghz-rumor/

The system architect sure knows what he is doing, it is like the best system you could hope for in time for 2013 by AMD, if they dragged it into mid 2014, then you would potentially have seen 30% more improvement but at least this way we get a new console sooner and a cheaper console later in 2014 and lower power consumption too.
 
Once again, Sony have not revealed any prices, no retailers knows the prices. They're just placeholders to get your custom via pre-orders.
 
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That video streaming is really going to be popular with racing leagues/series.
 
RACECAR
That video streaming is really going to be popular with racing leagues/series.
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Agreed. It'll be almost like making your very own racing series/show like Speed TV, it'll be so much fun to see others stream them for spectators to watch haha. :)
 
I hope it is free to record/share.
But I think PS+ members should get extra benefits like longer record length, etc.
Or maybe if your YouTube account is able to upload videos with no limit, then you could do the same with the PS4's share feature?
 
That's what I would guess, everyone would get a free version but PS+ gets benefits like more storage or longer clips. It would be weird for Sony to tout the feature and then make it paid only, though not impossible.
 
Why would they advertise it in the event if it will need ps+ then? Safe bet it will be free, it also has a dedicated button. But yes like you said maybe more features (also a safe bet) for ps+ users
 
Saidur_Ali
I was hoping they would bump up either the clock speed of current processor or use 4 SteamRoller cores. They have done the former if rumour is true and this should keep PS4 remaining a very power efficient gaming console: http://ps4daily.com/2013/02/playstation-4-cpu-runs-at-2-ghz-rumor/

The system architect sure knows what he is doing, it is like the best system you could hope for in time for 2013 by AMD, if they dragged it into mid 2014, then you would potentially have seen 30% more improvement but at least this way we get a new console sooner and a cheaper console later in 2014 and lower power consumption too.
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Increasing clock speed lowers efficiency. Also, with AMD, every two cores share resources, and the cores themselves are less efficient. btw, considering the fact that AMD has barely increased performance per clock in the past several years, I would not get my hopes up for an AMD processor with a 30% performance increase without going past at least a 140W TDP.
 
The way I look at it if things are free the companies tend to shout about it. The fact they didn't specify anything about cost on the new PSN features makes me think a lot of them will be charged in some way.
 
I'm sure some parts of it will be premium (live streaming) but I have hard time believing the would include a button on the controller solely to be used by premium/charged featueres.
 
mcfizzle
I'm sure some parts of it will be premium (live streaming) but I have hard time believing the would include a button on the controller solely to be used by premium/charged featueres.
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No but as someone above mentioned it's probably limited for free use. Which would be fair enough I suppose.
 
brianwong
Increasing clock speed lowers efficiency. Also, with AMD, every two cores share resources, and the cores themselves are less efficient. btw, considering the fact that AMD has barely increased performance per clock in the past several years, I would not get my hopes up for an AMD processor with a 30% performance increase without going past at least a 140W TDP.
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At 2GHZ it can still have good performance per watt while bringing much needed performance. The 30% performance increase I am on about is if Sony waited to release a console, one year later than they are currently. They could have built it with 20nm parts and that should get about 30% improvement in general regarding CPU and GPU but stops them being able to reduce price as much as they can with current system so current one is most ideal given release date. 2014 the PS4 might potentially lower power consumption by 30% too.

I would guess that current CPU in PS4 takes at most 45w with GPU taking around 100-110W on average. Probably come with a 300-350W rated PSU inside it, bit less than original PS3 but should be a more compact design.

Toronado
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if at least most of the sharing features weren't new things for PS+ members.
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I would hope majority of core features are free including all share functions as well as free online gaming with all the cross-game chat functions. I think they may also give some free game streaming services such as time limited game try outs as standard and games you might own on PS3 when they get that service running. It will be a big disappointment if most of these features are not free.
 
Saidur_Ali
At 2GHZ it can still have good performance per watt while bringing much needed performance. The 30% performance increase I am on about is if Sony waited to release a console, one year later than they are currently. They could have built it with 20nm parts and that should get about 30% improvement in general regarding CPU and GPU but stops them being able to reduce price as much as they can with current system so current one is most ideal given release date. 2014 the PS4 might potentially lower power consumption by 30% too.

I would guess that current CPU in PS4 takes at most 45w with GPU taking around 100-110W on average. Probably come with a 300-350W rated PSU inside it, bit less than original PS3 but should be a more compact design.


I would hope majority of core features are free including all share functions as well as free online gaming with all the cross-game chat functions. I think they may also give some free game streaming services such as time limited game try outs as standard and games you might own on PS3 when they get that service running. It will be a big disappointment if most of these features are not free.
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2Ghz is low for me (I am a PC gamer with the exception of playing GT5). Also, AMD most likely will not be on a 20nm process seeing as they're still working on 28. I think it still stands that if they used an Intel CPU, they could lower the TDP a lot more since Intel makes CPUs that have better performance and lower power draw
 

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