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Yeah, as sems4arsenal said. Maybe it didn't come out right but what I meant was that people use PS Home for the same reason people play GT, because they enjoy it.

Maybe "waste time," wasn't the best word for it. :dunce:

Lol. Fair enough.
 
If only there was a popular search engine you could have typed that exact question into and gotten an answer.

For some reason you reminded me of the Kevin butler ad when a guy asks him for help in selecting something that is both a Blu ray player and a game machine :lol:

I miss him the Great KB :(
 
Eks
Give me one good reason to waste time on Gran Turismo. One could be that I enjoy it, just like people enjoy PS Home.

Just because you see it as worthless doesn't mean others do.

excuse you, you don't actually "play" pshome. pshome is like a barbiehouse, adults have no business on it. that's how i see it. there are better ways to chat, watch movies etc. playing actual games gives a challenge of some sort, playing barbie doesn't really do it.
 
Some grown men just like to play dress up. Look at all the people who like dressing up their drivers in GT5 with the hundreds of outfits and helmets. Whatever floats their boat.
 
excuse you, you don't actually "play" pshome. pshome is like a barbiehouse, adults have no business on it. that's how i see it. there are better ways to chat, watch movies etc. playing actual games gives a challenge of some sort, playing barbie doesn't really do it.

Coming from the man with what appears to be an anime character as his avatar. This is a gaming forum, where grown men can talk about a common interest that is predominately viewed by the outside world as not "adult business".

I've never really used PS Home, although I hardly use any of the social features of the PSN anyway. I think I'll be getting a PS+ subscription when I buy my PS4 though, hopefully some of my friends will be buying one too.
 
people can always use the whatever floats your boat argument, does that mean that stupid things, even when a small minority views them as not stupid is actually not stupid?

what does pshome do that warrants a use for it? i used it like 3 times, its the most useless thing on the ps3.

is it possible to find something stupid without others going all philosophical about it? thats more interresting than anything pshome has to offer.
 
Gran Turismo is a racing simulator. Home is a social life simulator.

Paying real money for anything in Home is just silly. Why is Home still in beta?
 
people can always use the whatever floats your boat argument, does that mean that stupid things, even when a small minority views them as not stupid is actually not stupid?

what does pshome do that warrants a use for it? i used it like 3 times, its the most useless thing on the ps3.

is it possible to find something stupid without others going all philosophical about it? thats more interresting than anything pshome has to offer.
Yes, don't be close-minded.
 
Gran Turismo is a racing simulator. Home is a social life simulator.

Paying real money for anything in Home is just silly. Why is Home still in beta?

To each his own. Paying money to virtually race is no different with that logic. If someone wants to spend their money the way they want to they are free to do so, these things exist because people support it.

You buy DLC for the virtual racing simulator, someone buys a mini game or a shirt for an avatar. Same basic thing. The use and affect of the virtual item is the users own indulgence.
 
Gran Turismo is a racing simulator. Home is a social life simulator.

Paying real money for anything in Home is just silly. Why is Home still in beta?

And its somehow more "Questionable" then paying real money for virtual cars?
 
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My Girlfriend once said to me "I don't know why you waste time playing with stupid cars that don't exist" 10 minutes later she tells bores me about what happened on a fictional TV soap about characters and storyline that do not exist, as if it were real.

Moral of the story, Don't be a hypocrite.
 
My Girlfriend once said to me "I don't know why you waste time playing with stupid cars that don't exist" 10 minutes later she tells bores me about what happened on a fictional TV soap about characters and storyline that do not exist, as if it were real.

That incident sounds like either the begining of a relationship enriching and bond enhancing conversation about reality, or an argument that leads to a break up. Funny though.
 
And its somehow more "Questionable" then paying real money for virtual cars?

Being that we spend hundreds of hundreds of dollars on peripheries to control our pretend cars, I wonder what sort of peripherals there will be to interact with our pretend social life?
 
I don't really think that's what he ment.

maybe youre right. though seeing how gt is a game that features cars and him not talking about spending money on the game but on cars, i was assuming dlc cars that you buy sepperately. but its late and i am sleepy, maybe ill see what he meant in the morning.
 
I don't really think that's what he ment.

Exactly. My point was how spending real money for a virtual social life was somehow looked down upon while people are also spending real money on virtual cars (one particular Sim I immediately can point out). Honestly I feel if you spend Real money on ANY virtual item in any game DLC or not( Cars, planes, weapons, costumes, etc), you're really in no position to question who's spending money on anything virtual.

Being that we spend hundreds of hundreds of dollars on peripheries to control our pretend cars, I wonder what sort of peripherals there will be to interact with our pretend social life?

I believe one of those is already available, its called the Move ;)
 
I believe one of those is already available, its called the Move ;)

I was thinking more of a humanoid or Cyberman (Doctor Who reference). Waving a stick with a lighted ball on the top is not comparable to a wheel & pedals.

I will NEVER be able to drive a race car. I can't even drive any longer. If I want to socialize, that's easy. All I have to do is go outside.
 
I was thinking more of a humanoid or Cyberman (Doctor Who reference). Waving a stick with a lighted ball on the top is not comparable to a wheel & pedals.

Yeah, it was a joke answer.

I will NEVER be able to drive a race car. I can't even drive any longer. If I want to socialize, that's easy. All I have to do is go outside.

:lol:

If I wanted to drive, all I have to do likewise is go to my garage, get my dad's keys to start it up and away I go ;)

Yes its not everyone's situation but likewise, "socializing" isn't as simple as "going outside".
 
Yes its not everyone's situation but likewise, "socializing" isn't as simple as "going outside".

Yeah, some people live out in the woods of Alaska, grizzly bears are their neighbors :)

Two months away from E3!
 
Yeah, some people live out in the woods of Alaska, grizzly bears are their neighbors :)

Or you know, literally out in the middle of nowhere. I've actually been in rural places far and away from civilization yet had incredibly better reception then some cities. The witchcraft in those parts is slightly scary.
 
Exactly. My point was how spending real money for a virtual social life was somehow looked down upon while people are also spending real money on virtual cars (one particular Sim I immediately can point out). Honestly I feel if you spend Real money on ANY virtual item in any game DLC or not( Cars, planes, weapons, costumes, etc), you're really in no position to question who's spending money on anything virtual.



I believe one of those is already available, its called the Move ;)

I think that there is somewhat of a difference, and I think I may be missing the point. Spending real money on virtual cars adds replayability to a game as apposed to spending real money on a virtual social life adds very little to your actual life. I think investors have a term for it called "rate of return". It means that for every dollar that you invest something into, you expect a service, or money back in return.

Most DLC gives you a very reasonable rate of return because the content would add replayability to the game, and that would expand the game's life span. Take for example, Call of Duty. They release map packs four times a year to expand the game's lifespan, however, it is their multiplayer that expands the lifespan naturally. So if you invested $60 on the game, and $60 in the packs, that would amount to a $120 investment. Now we would have to look at the community. Do they upgrade from year to year, or from release to release? Yes and no. While they do buy the latest release, most Call of Duty fans have a preferred game that they play. That means that even if a game in the franchise is no longer supported by publishers, that doesn't mean that the fans are willing to run away the instant the support stops, and that is the sign of a dedicated fan base. So if you do have a $120 investment in a game, do you expect longevity in return? In the case of the Call of Duty franchise, the answer is yes.

Now let's look into spending money into social services. No, we are not going to be talking about taxes, we are going to be talking about Playstation Home. Sony's initial idea about Home is that you spend real money to acquire virtual objects to make your pad look like it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Anyone who has played The Sims(an apt reference) can cross reference Home with that game. There are microtransactions galore, and if you even dare say that EA caught the bug first, you should be checked into a nut ward because this was the program, though ahead of its time, started the microtransaction craze.

Now I won't go into specifics as to what you can buy in Home, but what I will say is that all transactions used in Home involve real money.

Now will it give a rate of return? Considering the amount of money that you would spend to get a decent space in Home, you would be better off spending it elsewhere, like a couple of games off PSN, or maybe their vast superior PS+.

Again, I may be off tangent, and if I am, I'm sorry.
 
I think that there is somewhat of a difference, and I think I may be missing the point. Spending real money on virtual cars adds replayability to a game as apposed to spending real money on a virtual social life adds very little to your actual life. I think investors have a term for it called "rate of return". It means that for every dollar that you invest something into, you expect a service, or money back in return.

You invest in enjoyment. I shake my head at people who go out partying every weekend, blowing hundreds of bucks a month on booze and party entrance fees alone. They're left with nothing but (hopefully) enjoyable memories. Something an investor would regard as a big, fat zero in his book.

As such, I can very well picture someone who gets a great return on his investments, if he's into the virtual social life thing. I do wonder why someone would be that way just as I can't comprehend why someone would blow that much cash on partying, but hey, since we're all paying for nothing but entertainment, it's up to each person to decide what's entertaining to them. I'd bet that my girlfriend would find some additions to her social game more interesting than DLC cars - as she doesn't really desire to drive the ones that are already there, at all, anyway.
 
This could be anything (perhaps another ND title?) or nothing at all, but there's speculation regarding The Last Of Us hinting at the PS4 release date.
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Only a couple more weeks til Sony drops more info.
 
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