This is why everyone thinks it's an ugly car.
It's ass ugly.
And the front and rear don't seem to come from the same car. You look at the front and say "Ah, they're going for an organic, curvy look" then you look at the back...
and it looks like they're going for a retro look. Also, those two slots on the hood look out of place, and those folds on either front corner look... just... ugh...
And before any goes around talking about "performance"
The Truth About the Nissan GT-R and the Nürburgring Lap Record
By James Ansell
May 21, 2008
I agree with TTAC reviewer Stephan Wilkinson : the new Nissan GT-R is the old Honda NSX. Once people actually start driving Nissans everyday supercar as opposed to simply jumping on the hype bandwagon and bench racing numbers supplied by Nissan theyll appreciate the parallel. Although I'm still looking forward to my first hands-on experience with the GT-R, the reality of the cars true nature and importance in automotive history is right under the fan-boys noses.
The GT-R allegedly 'outperforms' thoroughbred supercars at a fraction of the price. Yes, but what price? The sticker price, or the in-your-garage price? Considering the hype surrounding the car and the limited production numbers, it will be years before a single new $70k GT-R will be sold for under $100k. At the moment, comparing the Nissan to say, a Corvette Z06, obfuscates the truth. But what the [Green] Hell
No small part of the current GT-R lovefest can be attributed to the cars 7:38 Nürburgring lap time. As TTAC has pointed out, there are real questions about the Green Hellmobiles qualifications for the title second fastest production car around the Ring. The cars suspension was modified from the current Japanese production model, supposedly to reflect the American and European spec. Supposedly. Will anyone get a chance to compare the fabled Ring runner and a final production car? Somehow I doubt it.
Meanwhile, the YouTube video of the Nissans historic run clearly shows that the GT-R had a flying start. All other manufacturers testing at the Ring use standing starts for published lap times. The video also proves that the car's lap time was not measured at the exact same location (start and stop). Take these two factors into account, and the 7:40 claim seems highly dubious.
The icing on the cake: GT-R chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizunos subsequent admission from that "We used cut slick tyres." If that doesnt cancel their claim, nothing does.
In fact, a regular Corvette Z06 would probably beat the GT-R on the Nürburgring. When Road & Track tested the GT-R against the Z06 on a track much smaller than the Ring, they concluded that the GT-R was fast in the corners, but they didn't shed a whole lot of light on how the GT-R performed on the straights. Although the Ring has an enormous amount of corners, it also has some of the longest straight-aways in the world.
In Road & Tracks technical comparo, the GT-R was just as fast to 60mph as the Z06 (despite being less powerful). What many have over-looked is the trap speed at the end of the 1/4 mile. The Z06 is about seven mph faster than the GT-R. When you look at the graph that accompanies these numbers, the GT-Rs AWD system gave it a clear advantage but only at the start. Applied to the Green Hell, the Z06 would outpace the GT-R on the straights.
The Z06s fastest recorded lap time at the Nürburgring is 7:42.9 This lap was driven in 2005 by Jan Magnussen in 'muggy' conditions. Last year, Chevy revised the suspension on all Corvette models including the Z06. In theory, the new suspension and better weather conditions should be enough for a Z06 to equal or even better the Nissan GT-R's true time of +7:40. When you consider that the Z06 can achieve this time with a GM-standard standing start and production tires, it seems obvious that the GT-R is no match for the Z06 around the ring.
But what does it all mean? Well, not much actually. Every racetrack is different and some cars are suited to some tracks while others are not. The GT-R is suited to smaller tracks like the one R&T used, and the Z06 is suited to longer and faster ones like the Ring.
So why did I bother ranting about this? Nissan has chosen to flaunt its Nürburgring lap times to show the world that their new, high-tech Nissan GT-R is the new bang-for-the-buck Alpha. But its not true. The cheaper Corvette Z06 is still the worlds best [unmodified] performance car bargain. Whats more, if the GT-R cannot handle a stock Z06, then how will it fare against the upcoming ZR1? Never mind the 'almighty' spec V model.
Given the GT-Rs looks and oft-reported lack of driving feel, theres only one reason anyone would buy the uber-Nissan: to own the fastest thing on the road. In the corners, maybe. If you were committed enough to drive at 10/10ths (never mind how easy it is), you could probably blow-off a 911 or similar. Down the straights (the great American pastime), there are faster and cheaper choices and thats without exploring relatively inexpensive modifications.
In short, the GT-R is an awesome achievement, but Wilkinsons right: its not all that.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/the...ng-lap-record/
I rest my case for the ZR1.
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This is why everyone thinks it's an ugly car.
It's ass ugly.
And the front and rear don't seem to come from the same car. You look at the front and say "Ah, they're going for an organic, curvy look" then you look at the back...
and it looks like they're going for a retro look. Also, those two slots on the hood look out of place, and those folds on either front corner look... just... ugh...
And before any goes around talking about "performance"
The Truth About the Nissan GT-R and the Nürburgring Lap Record
By James Ansell
May 21, 2008
I agree with TTAC reviewer Stephan Wilkinson : the new Nissan GT-R is the old Honda NSX. Once people actually start driving Nissans everyday supercar as opposed to simply jumping on the hype bandwagon and bench racing numbers supplied by Nissan theyll appreciate the parallel. Although I'm still looking forward to my first hands-on experience with the GT-R, the reality of the cars true nature and importance in automotive history is right under the fan-boys noses.
The GT-R allegedly 'outperforms' thoroughbred supercars at a fraction of the price. Yes, but what price? The sticker price, or the in-your-garage price? Considering the hype surrounding the car and the limited production numbers, it will be years before a single new $70k GT-R will be sold for under $100k. At the moment, comparing the Nissan to say, a Corvette Z06, obfuscates the truth. But what the [Green] Hell
No small part of the current GT-R lovefest can be attributed to the cars 7:38 Nürburgring lap time. As TTAC has pointed out, there are real questions about the Green Hellmobiles qualifications for the title second fastest production car around the Ring. The cars suspension was modified from the current Japanese production model, supposedly to reflect the American and European spec. Supposedly. Will anyone get a chance to compare the fabled Ring runner and a final production car? Somehow I doubt it.
Meanwhile, the YouTube video of the Nissans historic run clearly shows that the GT-R had a flying start. All other manufacturers testing at the Ring use standing starts for published lap times. The video also proves that the car's lap time was not measured at the exact same location (start and stop). Take these two factors into account, and the 7:40 claim seems highly dubious.
The icing on the cake: GT-R chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizunos subsequent admission from that "We used cut slick tyres." If that doesnt cancel their claim, nothing does.
In fact, a regular Corvette Z06 would probably beat the GT-R on the Nürburgring. When Road & Track tested the GT-R against the Z06 on a track much smaller than the Ring, they concluded that the GT-R was fast in the corners, but they didn't shed a whole lot of light on how the GT-R performed on the straights. Although the Ring has an enormous amount of corners, it also has some of the longest straight-aways in the world.
In Road & Tracks technical comparo, the GT-R was just as fast to 60mph as the Z06 (despite being less powerful). What many have over-looked is the trap speed at the end of the 1/4 mile. The Z06 is about seven mph faster than the GT-R. When you look at the graph that accompanies these numbers, the GT-Rs AWD system gave it a clear advantage but only at the start. Applied to the Green Hell, the Z06 would outpace the GT-R on the straights.
The Z06s fastest recorded lap time at the Nürburgring is 7:42.9 This lap was driven in 2005 by Jan Magnussen in 'muggy' conditions. Last year, Chevy revised the suspension on all Corvette models including the Z06. In theory, the new suspension and better weather conditions should be enough for a Z06 to equal or even better the Nissan GT-R's true time of +7:40. When you consider that the Z06 can achieve this time with a GM-standard standing start and production tires, it seems obvious that the GT-R is no match for the Z06 around the ring.
But what does it all mean? Well, not much actually. Every racetrack is different and some cars are suited to some tracks while others are not. The GT-R is suited to smaller tracks like the one R&T used, and the Z06 is suited to longer and faster ones like the Ring.
So why did I bother ranting about this? Nissan has chosen to flaunt its Nürburgring lap times to show the world that their new, high-tech Nissan GT-R is the new bang-for-the-buck Alpha. But its not true. The cheaper Corvette Z06 is still the worlds best [unmodified] performance car bargain. Whats more, if the GT-R cannot handle a stock Z06, then how will it fare against the upcoming ZR1? Never mind the 'almighty' spec V model.
Given the GT-Rs looks and oft-reported lack of driving feel, theres only one reason anyone would buy the uber-Nissan: to own the fastest thing on the road. In the corners, maybe. If you were committed enough to drive at 10/10ths (never mind how easy it is), you could probably blow-off a 911 or similar. Down the straights (the great American pastime), there are faster and cheaper choices and thats without exploring relatively inexpensive modifications.
In short, the GT-R is an awesome achievement, but Wilkinsons right: its not all that.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/the...ng-lap-record/
I rest my case for the ZR1.
I thought so. So people who love the Nissan GT-R buy a Nissan GT-R, and people who love the Corvette ZR1 buy a Corvette ZR1. Got it
Edit: in response to xNEVER-ONEx above
