Poll: Nissan GT-R SpecV or Chevrolet ZR-1

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Which do you prefer?

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Not really a "fan" of either. I find the GT-R to be quite ugly, dull and in game it seems to understeer like mad.
The ZR-1 is a corvette, which aren't really high on my list and has that tacky plastic window on the hood. That said, it's a monster, makes a great noise, goes like mad, and is loads of fun to drive in GT.

GT I'd take the ZR-1 no contest, real life I'd sell whichever is worth more and buy something else.
 
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The Corvette has independent suspension with double wishbones on all four corners. They haven't had a solid axle since 1962.
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Well pointed out, I meant to write coil suspension :dunce: (No need to get feisty some of you).

For sure transverse leafs have some advantages but I think most people (and manufacturers) would agree that the advantages of coil springs far outweight them. Compliance and adjustability are perhaps two of the key disadvantages of leaf springs.

That said, Chevrolet manage to make it work much better in the corvette than Ford do in the Mustang, but here's to betting the next corvette does not run leaf springs...
 
CarreraGT
Well pointed out, I meant to write coil suspension :dunce: (No need to get feisty some of you).

For sure transverse leafs have some advantages but I think most people (and manufacturers) would agree that the advantages of coil springs far outweight them. Compliance and adjustability are perhaps two of the key disadvantages of leaf springs.

That said, Chevrolet manage to make it work much better in the corvette than Ford do in the Mustang, but here's to betting the next corvette does not run leaf springs...
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Muscle without leaf springs. You so crazy! Lol.
 
Doppiadi
I've chosen the GTR because it's way more innovative than the ZR1; sorry american guys: I know you go crazy with a huge V8, I prefer personally a smaller engine revving high ;)

This said, I admit the vette is funnier to drive, but I would not chose that as a car of the year.
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you do realize the GT-R makes it's peak power at 6,400 rpm's while the ZR-1 makes it's peak power (108 more hp) at 6,500. even though the ZR-1 redlines at 6,500 rpm's, the GT-R redlines only 500rpm more at 7k. still pointless to bring it up that high since it makes peak power at 600 rpm's less...just saying...
 
For a car with much less HP and much more weight, and for it to post better laps, yeah the Nissan GT-R is much more impressive. Looks better too.

Yeah, I said it looks good. 👍
 
Stop it with the idiotic "It's ugly/beautiful" argument. It really has no sense. Every person has different tastes, period. Humanity considers the Mona Lisa the best painting ever, while I walked away from it because I found it disappointing and was amazed at Delacroix work when I went to the Louvre. Beauty is subjective, deal with it.

Also, I believe no car is better than the other. Both are completely different rides, amazing cars, and everyone here would be delighted to even have a test drive in one of them. Each one of them represents a completely different approach to driving, and each one of them rewards a specific type of racing technique. Also, they both represent completely different ideals: one is all brains, the other one is all muscles. To each, his own.

Most people say the GT-R is understeery. But I don't, to me it's amazing. In fact, I found the ZR-1 to be more understeery when entering a corner and absurdely (and yet, predictably) power-oversteery when coming out of it. I loathed the ZR-1, and I found the GT-R absolutely entertaining and it never got dull whereas the Vette became a nuissance.

I picked the GT-R over the 'Vette because overall I enjoy it the most, it suits more my driving style, I find it beautiful (Not saying the ZR-1 isn't, it looks amazing too 👍), and at the end of the day it's a bigger technological achievement than the Vette. I'm not saying which one is better, just the one I like the most.
 
CarreraGT
Yes, V stands for victory :)
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V stands for version..

And I quote vin diesel. "muscle beats import.....every time" go for the vette. It's more versatile than the gtr as it can be set for drifting too (being rear wheel drive)
 
GYMKHANA_RYAN4
V stands for version..

And I quote vin diesel. "muscle beats import.....every time" go for the vette. It's more versatile than the gtr as it can be set for drifting too (being rear wheel drive)
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Version Spec? :dunce:

The V-spec was introduced to celebrate the R32 GT-R's racing success in Group N and Group A, hence "Victory Specification"
 
Spec= special
Version special
remember it's Japanese
Old skylines maybe specv =special version.
This may have been incorrectly drilled into my head at some point though
 
Skyline_77
For a car with much less HP and much more weight, and for it to post better laps, yeah the Nissan GT-R is much more impressive. Looks better too.

Yeah, I said it looks good. 👍
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yea, it doesn't post quicker laps. might be as quick as or a little quicker than the Z06, but it's not quicker than the ZR1. not sure where everyone is getting this info. the look department is subjective, though. personally, I think the ZR1 looks better, but looks have nothing to do with my choice. the ZR1 is a quicker car.



GYMKHANA_RYAN4
V stands for version..

And I quote vin diesel. "muscle beats import.....every time" go for the vette. It's more versatile than the gtr as it can be set for drifting too (being rear wheel drive)
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don't...freaking quote Vin Diesel.....*shudders*
 
GYMKHANA_RYAN4
Spec= special
Version special
remember it's Japanese
Old skylines maybe specv =special version.
This may have been incorrectly drilled into my head at some point though
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Perhaps, because V definitely stands for Victory 👍

Edit: As much as I hate using Wikipedia as a reference, I couldn't be bothered looking for it anywhere else:

"To celebrate the success of the GT-R in both Group N and Group A racing, Nissan introduced the Skyline GT-R V-Spec ("Victory SPECification") car on February 3, 1993. The V-Spec added Brembo brakes and a retuned ATTESA E-TS system to the Nismo and N1 packages, as well as 17" BBS wheels with 225/45/17 tires. The V-Spec has a list price of ¥ 5.260 million"
 
GYMKHANA_RYAN4
V stands for version..

And I quote vin diesel. "muscle beats import.....every time" go for the vette. It's more versatile than the gtr as it can be set for drifting too (being rear wheel drive)
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You lost all credibility when you decided to bring up that stupid quote.

And btw, it was said by Greg Cipes, so fail quote is fail.
 
As a GT-R lover, I had to pick the GT-R. It's a shame that there's no race mod for it...is there any chance one might be available in a future update?
 
Vette simply because a RWD monster with that power is harder and more rewarding to drive than an AWD with less power.
 
GT-R is useful everywhere corner straight

in straight line not better than zr1 but its good enough to help you in a spec and b spec
 
TheToad263
I go with the GT-R... I dont understand how everyone thinks it is an ugly car...
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I don't think its an ugly car, to me it just looks like a modified g35.

I know there are more Corvettes out there (in U.S.) than GTR's, but between the 2?

A 2 seater sports car, with a supercharged v8 and a 6 speed manual.
or
A 2+2 sports car, with a twin turbo v6, awd, and auto/6speed.

ZR1 please, imo nothing beats the sound of a cammed pushrod. (except maybe a few exotics)
 
CarreraGT
Well pointed out, I meant to write coil suspension :dunce: (No need to get feisty some of you).

For sure transverse leafs have some advantages but I think most people (and manufacturers) would agree that the advantages of coil springs far outweight them. Compliance and adjustability are perhaps two of the key disadvantages of leaf springs.

That said, Chevrolet manage to make it work much better in the corvette than Ford do in the Mustang, but here's to betting the next corvette does not run leaf springs...
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The Mustang actually uses a live axle with coil springs, as opposed to the Vette's IRS with leafs, so they don't have anything in common. I don't know about compliance, you might have a point there, but neither leaf or coil springs qualify as "adjustable" as far as I can tell.

It should also be noted that the slick magnetorheological shock absorbers on the ZR1 were developed by GM's former Delphi subsidiarity and have since been licensed by companies like Ferrari, Honda, and VW. So when you buy, say, a 599GTB you're actually buying "primitive" GM/Yank suspension technology.

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I am ashamed to say this but the other day I watched Fast and Furious... you know the one from a year or two ago. This thread kind of reminded me of how unrealistic that movie was. I know that A RM ZR1 and a V-Spec are actually close in speed and what not but in that movie a R34 Skyline GT-R gets beat by a 60's Charger.... granted they were both modded to hell but in real life there is no way a 60s charger could hold a candle to an early 2000s GTR.... Just the cornering alone... in a straight line maybe but the race was a real one with corners.
 
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It should also be noted that the slick magnetorheological shock absorbers on the ZR1 were developed by GM's former Delphi subsidiarity and have since been licensed by companies like Ferrari, Honda, and VW. So when you buy, say, a 599GTB you're actually buying "primitive" GM/Yank suspension technology.
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Interesting. HSV (Holden) have been running magnetic dampers (MRC) for a few years on their top of the range GTS and at the time I think it and the 599 were the only cars to run the system so it doesn't surprise me that they were originally developed by GM.

Also you're right about the Corvette/Mustang thing, I get confused when it comes to American cars. I'm interested to see what the next Corvette brings... I just hope they don't kill of the manual gearbox
 

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