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live4speed
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/632/632766p1.html read this, it says that the functionality was never included. They had the idea but dropped it and it never made it onto the console to become a function that was removed from it, the current spec of the PS3 is exactley the same as it was at E3. If you can prove this article wrong then I'll hand it to you, I know you don't make assumptions without evidence but I think theres been some mis-interpretaions of info being spread in the media regarding this matter.
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It's IGN, that's all I have to say about that.


Phil Harrison is many times more credible than they are, and if he went on the record after E3 stating many times that they wished the PS3 to be an internet hub for home entertainment, then that's what he ment.

IGN provides no such grounds in which they can base their comments. From a non biased standpoint, it was intended, it was reported many times after E3, and it was dropped. There has never BEEN a final spec PS3 yet, period. There never was one at E3. And at E3, it was still planned that the PS3 have router FUNCTIONS. They never said that it would be a ROUTER, but have router FUNCTIONS. This was dropped.

So while IGN could be right, they are also a bit off in their translation of the article. One month old, and the article was published in June, a month after E3, and Kuturagi still goes on record saying the functions were scrapped for costs. It was always intended to be a part of PS3, but was cut for cost reasons, it wasn't some media myth.

So, you can take my words like a grain of salt, but IGN proves themselves wrong more than I would ever have to. Anyone remember their initial story's regarding a GTA launch for PS3?...go IGN.
 
Other things I would like scrapped for savings.

All of the extra storage slots and keep memory sticks.
Built in WI FI, great idea but not needed. I dont ind hooking up a usb cable to psp.
Dual HDMI support, really nice but really unnesessary, Dual Standard out outs make more sense if it saves even $5. Two normal TVs VS two HDTV's
Strip it of everything(excluding BD-rom) and make it even with X360's basics features. Sony please dont over load PS3 with stuff that wont be used by more than half of would be buyers.

With that PS3s could sell for $299 easy.
 
LaBounti
Other things I would like scrapped for savings.

All of the extra storage slots and keep memory sticks.
Built in WI FI, great idea but not needed. I dont ind hooking up a usb cable to psp.
Dual HDMI support, really nice but really unnesessary, Dual Standard out outs make more sense if it saves even $5. Two normal TVs VS two HDTV's
Strip it of everything(excluding BD-rom) and make it even with X360's basics features. Sony please dont over load PS3 with stuff that wont be used by more than half of would be buyers.

With that PS3s could sell for $299 easy.
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I agree with everything except Wi-Fi and BD-Rom.

Wi-Fi will be great for those of us with wireless networks, as a lot of people are switching over to now a days. I'd much rather play online over a wireless network in my own house than hardwire everything and have wires everywhere.

As for BD-ROM, taking it out would be a huge mistake. It's going to be needed sooner or later, and I don't mind having a next generation video player included, just to experience a true HD video.
 
Tha Con, as I said I resepct info you give since it's usually right and that post makes sense so 👍.
 
live4speed
Tha Con, as I said I resepct info you give since it's usually right and that post makes sense so 👍.
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Thanks :)

Basically IGN was right, and IGN was wrong.

They were right that it was never included in a final spec PS3 to be scrapped, however, there hasn't been a final spec PS3 yet, everything has always been subject to change.

But it was initially intended...shame they dropped it, but I'm sure the bunch of people who buy it and wish to go online already have routers etc, so it makes sense I suppose.

But something like this is significant enough to drop the price $50 bucks, but the catch is, did sony drop the price to cut the manufacturing costs only to cut their losses? Or will the consumer price drop as well? That's the true question...:(
 
If the consumer price was to drop as well it wouldn't be by as much as the drop in production cost. I would think Sony would use that to cut their losses down a bit.
 
i just read in OPM that it maybe more like 500$ because it costs almost 500$ to manufacture the PS3...they also said they probly wont include the HDD with the PS3 but rather as an add on and they would remove other components to lower the price such as one or 2 of the three ethernet ports
 
It costs about $490 to manufacture a PS3 according to industry experts. Te HDD won't be included, to keep box price down, theres nothing being removed as far as Sony has said. They were hoping to have the trhee Ethernet ports act as a router but they decided to just use them as a hub as they showed at E3. The cost of the PS3 is likely to not go over $400, it would bre a big selling point for the 360 if the PS3 was so expensive.
 
live4speed
It costs about $490 to manufacture a PS3 according to industry experts. Te HDD won't be included, to keep box price down, theres nothing being removed as far as Sony has said. They were hoping to have the trhee Ethernet ports act as a router but they decided to just use them as a hub as they showed at E3. The cost of the PS3 is likely to not go over $400, it would bre a big selling point for the 360 if the PS3 was so expensive.
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Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

I am wondering, would this kind of move might really damage Sony if they sell the PS3 lower than the cost of manufacturing cost? I assume they can make it up with the sales of PS3 games. :odd:
 
I am wondering, would this kind of move might really damage Sony if they sell the PS3 lower than the cost of manufacturing cost? I assume they can make it up with the sales of PS3 games.
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They've always done that, McAngel. Only very recently, with the "slimline" PS2, has Sony made any profit on hardware. Game systems are always lauched at a loss. Xbox, for example, has never made a profit.. They still cost more to produce than what they're selling for.

Over the life of a console, the user will spend far more on software than they did on hardware. Think about it.. if you buy only ten games, that's five hundred bucks. PS2 only cost $299 at launch.

So when the so-called "analysts" (who have never been right, by the way) say the system will cost around $475-490 to manufacture, you can set that number as the absolute maximum that the system will sell for. And it will most likely be far cheaper.
 
Viper Zero
Check out this price:



YMMV, of course.
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I remember ppl ordering PS2 machines from japan before the PAL
with a price over 1000$.

When PS2 was released in Norway it came with a price tag over 600$.
And u could if u wanted sell ur PS2 to ppl that didnt manage to buy one
the first week as they disappeard fast for over 1000$
People will buy the new systems anyway at almoast any price

I bought the__ Commodore Amiga 500__ 14-15 years ago
The price..?
Over 1000$!!!!!!
Yep...all my money into an Amiga500
And YES it was worth it! no regrets :)
 
I reckon USA prices:

Either:

$350 - $420

UK Prices:

£350 - £440

I do not want to do euro prices because I do not get the whole point in Euro's.
 
thi is funny thats the first time I see how the PS3 looks :D , any way forme I would pay even if it reached 500 $ , and I bet you there are alot of people like me in this world :D I actually bought my PS2 for 600$ it was NTSC/UC and Saudi Arabia is a PAL region it some how the NTCS version comes here first imported .
My question will the realese for PS3 be the same every were europe US japan?
 
My dime goes to 529 euros / 529$ launch price.

It would be 130 euros/$ more then X360 launch price and it would be worth solely because BR player and dual-HDi support, if for nothing else. And there is much "else" fortunately.
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
I reckon USA prices:

Either:

$350 - $420

UK Prices:

£350 - £440

I do not want to do euro prices because I do not get the whole point in Euro's.
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I don't see the PS3 costing MORE in pound sterling than it will in USD since the pound is a lot stronger than the USD. If it's $400 it will probablt be about £350, it won't be more than £400.
 
Yes it may be a cheap MSRP but let us not forget (appologies if already mentioned) the rediculous prices that PS2's were going for around the Christmas they were released. People were going nuts and paying anywhere from $700-$1000!

My point is just because Sony says they'll only cost $400-$500 doesn't mean that's what everyone who rushes out to buy one first will be paying.

I like letting those who have no patience pay for the R&D then I buy one when the price is more realistic.

edit: Of course it was mentioned at the top of this page...figures. I agree.
 
I bought the PS2 in the first week of it's release here in Holland. At that time i paid the equivalent of €535 for it. That's $660. Sure it wasn't the smartest move to do but i had saved up enough money so i went ahead and bought it. No regrets, so far it has never broken down, in any way.

I will probably do the same with the PS3. I don't think it will cost as much as the PS2 did back in the day but it will probably end up costing somewhere around €450 here( around $399 in the US ). I personally don't think that's expensive but there are people that do, strangely enough. You are getting a piece of kit that is so far ahead of it's time it's not even funny and that for under $500. A single processor costs more than that and it doesn't come anywhere close performance wise to that of the PS3.

So i really don't see what the fuss is all about.
 
Velocity
Yes it may be a cheap MSRP but let us not forget (appologies if already mentioned) the rediculous prices that PS2's were going for around the Christmas they were released. People were going nuts and paying anywhere from $700-$1000!

My point is just because Sony says they'll only cost $400-$500 doesn't mean that's what everyone who rushes out to buy one first will be paying.
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I guess the trick is to make sure you get it at a respectable store via long-time pre-order rather than buying one out of the back of a pickup truck or off of Ebay. If they launch PS3 and say that it costs $350, then I'm not paying a penny more, and that's that. I know some people were pretty stupid about PS2, but I distinctly remember going down to my local Babbages and getting the thing on launch day for $299. Plus tax. *shrugs*
 
I really hope it aint gonna be £400 at release!.....the ps3 is still going to be regional right?

.....eventhough I really want it I dont think Im going to pay anything over £300
 

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