Problems?

GilesGuthrie · Jul 3, 2003

I posted a poll

Vote people!!

Duke · Jul 4, 2003

I voted "animals".

sn00pie · Jul 4, 2003

I voted "schnitzel".

Jpec07 · Jul 4, 2003

I was just looking at Dell business servers. They generally don't run for more than $2,000...

Cobraboy · Jul 5, 2003

Originally posted by Jpec07
I was just looking at Dell business servers. They generally don't run for more than $2,000...

Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong, but a business website would pull less views then a forum, even such an active for as GTP.

I only ever noticed the increase in members since the Drifters Only Forum went up...

Jordan · Jul 7, 2003

Have you guys noticed any increase/decrease in performance recently? How has the server been responding for you?

Sage · Jul 7, 2003

In the past few days, the server has actually been great! I've only had one or two slowdowns in that time.

milefile · Jul 7, 2003

Today it is much better. Did you change anything?

Duke · Jul 7, 2003

Yeah, pretty snappy lately. A few short holdups, but no real "tar pits" slowdowns in the last day or two. IF you changed something, it seems to be helping.
👍

Mr P · Jul 7, 2003

Good work Jordan

not had a problem for a while now :cool:

Jordan · Jul 8, 2003

Originally posted by milefile
Today it is much better. Did you change anything?

The only thing I changed was the setting that checked for duplicate attachments. Scanning all of our attachments to make sure they didn't already exist was putting a huge load on the server and the database. Nevertheless, I just purchased a brand new Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz server that will be our new home soon.

skylineGTR_guy · Jul 8, 2003

Originally posted by Jordan
The only thing I changed was the setting that checked for duplicate attachments. Scanning all of our attachments to make sure they didn't already exist was putting a huge load on the server and the database. Nevertheless, I just purchased a brand new Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz server that will be our new home soon.

How much did it cost you?

pedrodaman · Jul 8, 2003

I was getting messages like that "you cannot upload this attachment as it allready exsist's please refrain from posting duplicate attachments" or something along those lines...This was the message i got about 4 days ago while trying to upload a X-port file...But i can't see how it was a duplicate file as it was the first time i tried to upload it :confused:

The last few days the server has been great hardly any slowdown..

👍

Pako · Jul 8, 2003

Originally posted by Jordan
The only thing I changed was the setting that checked for duplicate attachments. Scanning all of our attachments to make sure they didn't already exist was putting a huge load on the server and the database. Nevertheless, I just purchased a brand new Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz server that will be our new home soon.

Wow!

I actually uploaded a file yesterday, and it uploaded extreemly fast!

How much down-time are you expecting (if any) during the switch?

Sage · Jul 8, 2003

Woah, this one blip was the first one in a while... :boggled:

(I was hoping that the site was being switched to the new server! :lol:

)

milefile · Jul 8, 2003

I keep getting multiple email notifications of new posts. This morning I had something like 36 emails all from GTP and I'm only subscribed to three or four threads.

Pako · Jul 8, 2003

Originally posted by milefile
I keep getting multiple email notifications of new posts. This morning I had something like 36 emails all from GTP and I'm only subscribed to three or four threads.

Your getting

ed!

Are the email notifications from threads that you are NOT subscribed to?

milefile · Jul 8, 2003

No, I'm subscribed. But for instance, the thread entitled "How many..." in the GT3 forum has emailed me three times to tell me Famine has posted. All this in less than fifteen minutes.

Jordan · Jul 9, 2003

Originally posted by milefile
I keep getting multiple email notifications of new posts. This morning I had something like 36 emails all from GTP and I'm only subscribed to three or four threads.

This is a separate issue and it would be best in another thread. But, anyway, have you logged in and out of the site several times during while receiving the emails?

Originally posted by Pako
Wow!

I actually uploaded a file yesterday, and it uploaded extreemly fast!

How much down-time are you expecting (if any) during the switch?

I'm really not too sure yet. The site itself shouldn't experience any downtime, because I only one DNS server needs to update, rather than every single one in the world. If I pull it off, the only downtime will be the closing of the forums while I export, transfer, and then import the forum database from the old to new server.

ALPHA · Jul 9, 2003

I uploaded some stuff today and it is back to how it was before GTP5. No uploading the document waiting 5minutes then the page either loads, comes up with a 404 or says the file already exists in a thread and doesn't provide a link.

Jordan, what happens now if we do upload duplicates it over writes it?

And the new server, we all appreciate it 👍!!!

sn00pie · Jul 9, 2003

Originally posted by Jordan
The only thing I changed was the setting that checked for duplicate attachments. Scanning all of our attachments to make sure they didn't already exist was putting a huge load on the server and the database. Nevertheless, I just purchased a brand new Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz server that will be our new home soon.

Thanks! And congratulations to GTPlanet on the new server! :cheers:

GilesGuthrie · Jul 9, 2003

Originally posted by Jordan
I'm really not too sure yet. The site itself shouldn't experience any downtime, because I only one DNS server needs to update, rather than every single one in the world. If I pull it off, the only downtime will be the closing of the forums while I export, transfer, and then import the forum database from the old to new server.

Jordan, you should be able to build the new server as a test server, then switch it and the outgoing server's IP addresses. It will entirely depend upon what Rackshack will let you do of course, but if I were you I would do this (IP addresses are examples only):

Old GTP server address: 192.168.1.1
This continues to run as normal.

New GTP server address: 192.168.1.2
Build the new server with Linux and Apache as desired, and install vB. Copy all the config data and the database from the old server to the new server. Perform some tests to ensure that the new server is operating as required.

Once the tests are complete, dump all the currently-logged-in users off the Old server, and set up a 'holding page'. Copy all the relevant data across to the new server again (because the live site will have changed while you were testing the new server).

Once this is complete, change the old server's IP address to some new third value (say 192.168.1.3). Change the new server's IP address to the address of the old server (192.168.1.1), then GTP will be back on the new server.

The key here is that there's no alteration to the DNS, so you reduce potential downtime from 24-48hrs (DNS propagation time) to the amount of time it takes to do the local IP configuration, which should be about 2 minutes, plus the time you spend with the holding page while you're copying the database.

I'll give you any help I can. Feel free to contact me privately if you wish any assistance at all before/during/after the move.

milefile · Jul 9, 2003

Originally posted by Jordan
This is a separate issue and it would be best in another thread. But, anyway, have you logged in and out of the site several times during while receiving the emails?

No.

Jordan · Jul 9, 2003

Jordan, what happens now if we do upload duplicates it over writes it?

No, it simply uploads a second copy of it.

Jordan, you should be able to build the new server as a test server, then switch it and the outgoing server's IP addresses. It will entirely depend upon what Rackshack will let you do of course, but if I were you I would do this (IP addresses are examples only):

Old GTP server address: 192.168.1.1
This continues to run as normal.

New GTP server address: 192.168.1.2
Build the new server with Linux and Apache as desired, and install vB. Copy all the config data and the database from the old server to the new server. Perform some tests to ensure that the new server is operating as required.

Once the tests are complete, dump all the currently-logged-in users off the Old server, and set up a 'holding page'. Copy all the relevant data across to the new server again (because the live site will have changed while you were testing the new server).

Once this is complete, change the old server's IP address to some new third value (say 192.168.1.3). Change the new server's IP address to the address of the old server (192.168.1.1), then GTP will be back on the new server.

The key here is that there's no alteration to the DNS, so you reduce potential downtime from 24-48hrs (DNS propagation time) to the amount of time it takes to do the local IP configuration, which should be about 2 minutes, plus the time you spend with the holding page while you're copying the database.

I'll give you any help I can. Feel free to contact me privately if you wish any assistance at all before/during/after the move.

Thanks, Giles. I can see where that would work, but I don't have enough IP's to throw around like that. But I'm not worried and I think I already have a good idea of how I'm going to go about the move. Because both my new and old server are with the same hosting company, who's DNS servers I use (and do not run my own DNS), I only have to update the IP address in their name servers which should only take 5 hours to update at the most.

F1man · Jul 9, 2003

Originally posted by Jordan
The only thing I changed was the setting that checked for duplicate attachments. Scanning all of our attachments to make sure they didn't already exist was putting a huge load on the server and the database. Nevertheless, I just purchased a brand new Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz server that will be our new home soon.

Will the URL stay the same? What if things don't go so well? :scared:

Sage · Jul 9, 2003

Originally posted by F1man
Will the URL stay the same?

Well, of course... moving a site to another server doesn't entail selling a domain name...

Jordan · Jul 10, 2003

Originally posted by F1man
Will the URL stay the same? What if things don't go so well?

Yes, nothing will change, the forums might just have to be closed for an hour or so. If things don't go so swell, the entire site will be lost and everything will be gone.

vat_man · Jul 10, 2003

Worst case scenario - the server could mutate into a giant robot that devours the universe. Bummer.

skylineGTR_guy · Jul 10, 2003

Originally posted by Jordan
Yes, nothing will change, the forums might just have to be closed for an hour or so. If things don't go so swell, the entire site will be lost and everything will be gone.

I'll stock up on antidepressants_ and pain killers just just in case anything goes wrong...

GilesGuthrie · Jul 10, 2003

Originally posted by vat_man
Worst case scenario - the server could mutate into a giant robot that devours the universe. Bummer.

I think that that's reasonably unlikely.

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