Project CARS General Discussion Thread

[Wolfe]

@DrJustice -- The reason is that third party Wii U games have had their DLC dropped before. Of course, that was a decision made by spiteful publishers like EA/Ubisoft.

By this point it's looking more likely than ever that the Wii U version will have the post-launch updates on the disc, and maybe some of the free DLC too. It seems sensible that SMS would pack in whatever is finished and ready by the time it goes gold...however many months from now that will be. Around my birthday (September)? In time for the holidays? Or will the new Zelda game show up first (2016)?

 

[DG_Silva]

A good start with automatic transmission: as I just have a brake and a throttle, what's the best way to get away fast? Do I just press the throttle when the light goes green or do I ref the engine up and then letting go of the brake?! Does it depend on weather conditions?! Like when it's wet, using just the throttle carefully? Any suggestions?!

The best way to learn is just to try. The difficulty with holding the brake and throttle together is that the revs die and then the car creeps forward (or at least it used to, I've got it timed perfectly now). Alternatively, you might be able to click up a gear when the lights go green. Standing starts in the wet are ok, it's entirely dependent on the car, the tyres, etc. It's all about adaptability and assessing the situation in front of you.

 

[PRO_TOO]

The best way to learn is just to try. The difficulty with holding the brake and throttle together is that the revs die and then the car creeps forward (or at least it used to, I've got it timed perfectly now). Alternatively, you might be able to click up a gear when the lights go green. Standing starts in the wet are ok, it's entirely dependent on the car, the tyres, etc. It's all about adaptability and assessing the situation in front of you.

Thank you mate. But I "can't" click up a gear because im to bad ar manual shifting so Ill go for automatic.
Maybe I'll try again to use the paddles on the wheel in manual mode like I tried in gt. But I am a rookie at shifting. Really. Shifting up is not the problem but shifting down like 4 gears I sometimes mess up. I am so focused when entering a slow speed corner! Really a rookie here I gotta admit.

 

[bleeder]

Thank you mate. But I "can't" click up a gear because im to bad a manual shifting so Ill go for automatic.
Maybe I'll try again to use the paddles on the wheel in manual mode like I tried in gt. But I am a rookie at shifting. Really. Shifting up is not the problem but shifting down like 4 gears I sometimes mess up. I am so focused when entering a slow speed corner! Really a rookie here I gotta admit.

do you have Driveclub? only asking because the downshifting in those cars is restricted by your revs/speed as you go through the corner which stops you being able to downshift to a lower gear than is needed, i would think cars IRL would do that also to stop you damaging the gear box by changing down too many gears than is needed. would make for some good training for you perhaps.

don't have sim racing experience but surely this is a common trait in other games?

 

[PRO_TOO]

do you have Driveclub? only asking because the downshifting in those cars is restricted by your revs/speed as you go through the corner which stops you being able to downshift to a lower gear than is needed, i would think cars IRL would do that also to stop you damaging the gear box by changing down too many gears than is needed. would make for some good training for you perhaps.

don't have sim racing experience but surely this is a common trait in other games?

I played it for like 2 month, than I couldn't stand it anymore. Got my club to level 20 and finished the campaign. Then sold it. It was just to arcade for my taste.
Driving like in a tube and getting rewarded for grinding the rails... Naaaah thank you. It's a beauty, it's a good game, but I want a simulation.

 

[psychoazubi]

@PRO_TOO again, it's all about practice. When you start playing pcars I recommend you to try manual shifting. As there is no other game that punishes your for wrong gear changes like pcars that would be a good opportunity to learn it. You need some hours to get used to it but it will make you faster and you have more control while braking and cornering as well. Plus, it is definitely more fun

 

[PRO_TOO]

@PRO_TOO again, it's all about practice. When you start playing pcars I recommend you to try manual shifting. As there is no other game that punishes your for wrong gear changes like pcars that would be a good opportunity to learn it. You need some hours to get used to it but it will make you faster and you have more control while braking and cornering as well. Plus, it is definitely more fun

Thank you guys for pushing me in the right direction. I'll give it a try. I promise. But I tried before... and sucked. I'll report on that.

 

[bleeder]

i only bought it to test out my wheel, loosen it up for the proper game (which didnt come out in nov, or march, or april... heheh) but it at least has given me some experience with paddle shifting as i have no other racing games i can use the T300 with.

 

[Pseudopod]

do you have Driveclub? only asking because the downshifting in those cars is restricted by your revs/speed as you go through the corner which stops you being able to downshift to a lower gear than is needed, i would think cars IRL would do that also to stop you damaging the gear box by changing down too many gears than is needed. would make for some good training for you perhaps.

don't have sim racing experience but surely this is a common trait in other games?

On many real life cars, that just happens if you gear way too far in one chunk. You can get way into the redline on many manual cars if you do that, even if they have limiters.

 

[killerjimbag]

On many real life cars, that just happens if you gear way too far in one chunk. You can get way into the redline on many manual cars if you do that, even if they have limiters.

Not true,my 65 Impala 3 speed will not let you shift to first if you are above 10 MPH. On most cars,shifting into full blown redline is not a recommended thing to do. Unless you want to have a good transmission or engine shop around to pick up the parts. I believe in this game you can have fatal damage,blowing up an engine by redlining it,would make sense.

Thank you guys for pushing me in the right direction. I'll give it a try. I promise. But I tried before... and sucked. I'll report on that.

Pro do you have GT6? Go practice on that using bumper cam,it gives you a tach and speedo,plus the little red light will blink when you should shift up or down. Yes you can redline the hell out of the cars in GT6 so practice with that.

 

[PRO_TOO]

Pro do you have GT6? Go practice on that using bumper cam,it gives you a tach and speedo,plus the little red light will blink when you should shift up or down. Yes you can redline the hell out of the cars in GT6 so practice with that.

I sold my PS3 and gt6 nov. last year. I know about gear recommendation. And I always used bumper cam for good lap times. As is said. I did all that stuff in gt. I tried but I need to focus so hard on making the corners, I mess up shifting. ...It's ugly!

 

[psychoazubi]

Pro do you have GT6? Go practice on that using bumper cam,it gives you a tach and speedo,plus the little red light will blink when you should shift up or down. Yes you can redline the hell out of the cars in GT6 so practice with that.

No No nooooooooooooooooooooooo! I see 2 reasons not to do this. 1) "Redlining the hell out of a car" will give a DNF in nearly every race in pcars because of gearbox failure and 2) when using the bumper cam, you will probably be faster but as you go for the "real" one..always use cockpit cam. With standard cars in GT5/6, you get the same speedo as in bumper cam.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Thank you guys for pushing me in the right direction. I'll give it a try. I promise. But I tried before... and sucked. I'll report on that.

I'd suggest, like I do every time this kind of thing comes up, start playing the game from the beginning, the way you want to end up. So if your goal is to manual shift without driving aids and cockpit view or whatever your combination is, then start that way and don't give up. A lot of guys start out throwing a whole bunch of aids on and then try to wean themselves off it and it's a hard transition because the muscle memory is there from using aids and it's tough to "forget" it. Start slow, in slower cars where there is less shifting, and work your way up from there. Forget any visual shifting aids as well, if they are in the game that is, and learn to shift by sound and the occasional glance at the tach if necessary.

I should also mention, I was never a fan of cockpit view until Assetto Corsa and I was determined to be a bonafide sim racer that only used cockpit view and so I started that way and although I'd driven hundreds of hours in GT5/6 using hood view, while only using cockpit view for fun once in a while, the transition was easier than I thought it would be. People will tell you that cockpit view isn't as fast, and I believed that too, but it turns out not to be the case, at least for me. I can measure myself on RSR Live Timing against at least one certified GT5/6 alien and I've actually closed the gap a little while only ever using cockpit view. It takes some getting used to, especially with an accurate FOV, but you do get the hang of it eventually.

 

[DrJustice]

Thank you guys for pushing me in the right direction. I'll give it a try. I promise. But I tried before... and sucked. I'll report on that.

It's one of those things; when you've got it down, you'll never want to relinquish the control and the satisfaction of making good shifts

 

[psychoazubi]

I'd suggest, like I do every time this kind of thing comes up, start playing the game from the beginning, the way you want to end up. So if your goal is to manual shift without driving aids and cockpit view or whatever your combination is, then start that way and don't give up. A lot of guys start out throwing a whole bunch of aids on and then try to wean themselves off it and it's a hard transition because the muscle memory is there from using aids and it's tough to "forget" it. Start slow, in slower cars where there is less shifting, and work your way up from there. Forget any visual shifting aids as well, if they are in the game that is, and learn to shift by sound and the occasional glance at the tach if necessary.

Low tier formula cars are good for practicing because they have some LED's in the cockpit showing the revs and give a hint when to shift.

I did what you described..started with maxed aids and then lowered them one after another...took way more time than starting without them right away.

 

[PRO_TOO]

I have no problem with aids. I turned them off in gt as well. That's not my problem. It's doing two or three things at the same time that gives me trouble. Entering a corner perfectly (slow in fast out and such), finding the apex and still be concentrated on breaking and getting the gears down.
But as you said, I'll start full manual in Pcars entering the lower tiers. I'll report.

Low tier formula cars are good for practicing because they have some LED's in the cockpit showing the revs and give a hint when to shift.

I did what you described..started with maxed aids and then lowered them one after another...took way more time than starting without them right away.

I can't spend time looking at the LED's. For me it's all about sound and "really" knowing when to shift. Get it?! I want to be better! Man, I want to be better at drivong to bad!!!

Btw: why does iPhone auto correction always suggest "drinking" when I want to write driving?! Gives the whole sentence another meaning.

 

[psychoazubi]

I have no problem with aids. I turned them off in gt as well. That's not my problem. It's doing two or three things at the same time that gives me trouble. Entering a corner perfectly (slow in fast out and such), finding the apex and still be concentrated on breaking and getting the gears down.
But as you said, I'll start full manual in Pcars entering the lower tiers. I'll report.

If you still can't get it right, try to do a 30-40 minute session starting around 80% speed. This will help you to concentrate on shifting without the danger of doing a mistake in a corner. After you get some clean laps on slow speed, try to get faster, just a little bit every lap until you have to concentrate on turning instead of shifting. You will reach a point where you don't have to think about shifting anymore..you just do it.

 

[PRO_TOO]

It's one of those things; when you've got it down, you'll never want to relinquish the control and the satisfaction of making good shifts

I believe you. Plus Ill get better lap times. As with aids, I don't want to depend on something the computer does for me. I wanna do it. May it be faults or good decisions. So there is no one to blame other than me.

 

[Simfan David]

It will get to the point your not even thinking about shifting. Between the sound of the engine revs and muscle memory, it will be like second nature. It will change some car to car but you will adapt quickly at that level. Keep pushing man. YOU CAN DO IT.👍

 

[PRO_TOO]

What a community. Thank you guys.
Don't be mad at me if its not working out.
I'll pick up your rubber and get the track clean. ...even if you like some rubber track.

 

[killerjimbag]

No No nooooooooooooooooooooooo! I see 2 reasons not to do this. 1) "Redlining the hell out of a car" will give a DNF in nearly every race in pcars because of gearbox failure and 2) when using the bumper cam, you will probably be faster but as you go for the "real" one..always use cockpit cam. With standard cars in GT5/6, you get the same speedo as in bumper cam.

Did you read my previous post about engine failure? Bumper cam was a suggestion, not saying its the best,by any means,would helmet cam not be the best truly realistic way to drive?

 

[PRO_TOO]

I don't like that "looking into the corner thing". But i do like the wobble and motion stuff. But I'll stick with regular cockpit cam I think. For better lap times bumper cam and for immersion cockpit cam!

 

[Simfan David]

What a community. Thank you guys.
Don't be mad at me if its not working out.
I'll pick up your rubber and get the track clean. ...even if you like some rubber track.

The first shift I want you to do is shift from(I'm not sure) to (yes I can). . We were all there at one time. Hell, I used automatic all the time. The only time I use auto is when I'm messing around drifting. And your welcome. Your right, this community rocks.

 

[psychoazubi]

I don't like that "looking into the corner thing". But i do like the wobble and motion stuff. But I'll stick with regular cockpit cam I think. For better lap times bumper cam and for immersion cockpit cam!

You can turn the head movement off and keep the motion stuff

@killerjimbag for now, I prefer helmet cam for the most realistic experience. But I think we will see a real jump in immersion when project Morpheus is released (or you play on pc and have the oculus).

 

[Simfan David]

I like the look to apex. Is it adjustable to how far you look like on a slider? Or is it only on or off?

 

[PRO_TOO]

So nearly all of you have been on this road?! Then my "I'm da man" mood kicks in!

 

[psychoazubi]

I like the look to apex. Is it adjustable to how far you look like on a slider? Or is it only on or off?

Right now it is adjustable and iirc it will be in the final game. There are also other options like g-force which also effect the head movement.


Edit..here is a screenshot from the current build

 

[FLX1981]

You can adjust both the angle and the amount of leaning with sliders.

 

[killerjimbag]

You can turn the head movement off and keep the motion stuff

@killerjimbag for now, I prefer helmet cam for the most realistic experience. But I think we will see a real jump in immersion when project Morpheus is released (or you play on pc and have the oculus).

Yes,but if anyone wants the "true" effect it would be helmet cam,not in car cam. Digiprost did a video,looked awesome. Stupid phone keeps putting cam as can.

 

[PRO_TOO]

You can turn the head movement off and keep the motion stuff

@killerjimbag for now, I prefer helmet cam for the most realistic experience. But I think we will see a real jump in immersion when project Morpheus is released (or you play on pc and have the oculus).

Lovely Pcars options! Thank you for hinting. I really like that. It's all about options. Man, you gotta love Pcars (on paper so far) for beeing what it might become. I'm so teased! Riding the hype train soooo badly right now!!

Yes,but if anyone wants the "true" effect it would be helmet can,not in car can. Digiprost did a video,looked awesome.

We don't want no cans, buddy!
All good. My word correction gets me crazy all the time.