Project CARS General Discussion Thread

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I haven't stopped playing all racing games, just switched to consoles. I need to break a lot of bad controller/button mashing habits from the various Forza games and other titles (played a limited amount of GT5). Fortunately, I can generally detect the problems and bad habits formed, but need to dial myself in for PCARS. I might have developed ADHD along the way haha, because my concentration really wavers sometimes.
 
LogiForce
Yeah, the price increase is horrible even though it is logically understandable. The prices just ended up being out of reach for most of the sim-racers.

I'm glad I got my beta unit for half price of the pre-order price (which was 499.95 euro) since I was a beta tester. So I only payed 250 euros for my V2. To think it's 750 euro now... man I'm a lucky guy.

The same thing happened with the Microsoft Surface Pro 2 128GB I bought in October last year for 599 euro. Which has now gone up considerably as well to 1000 euro. :eek:


The economy is far from stable and it seems to change rapidly. If it's for better or worse... who knows? I only know it sucks for all of us right now. :grumpy:



Btw. I think the universal XB1 hub is the best thing ever. You can just put on whatever wheel you want, and add and remove as much buttons as you want or do not want. So no complaints here from me. Now if only I had an XB1. :lol:
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Yes and no, cause the sells volume are bigger.
I don't understand why bmw and formula rim get that price, from the time they are in production we saw the euro get a bigger value from the US dollar, and we never seen a price drop.
That's an old excuse, people are crazy with Fanatec products, and they do what they want.
 
Oh by the way, ben collins tweeted something interesting a few days ago, dont know if it was mentioned....

Ps a little Bird says the wait is very nearly over .. Better late & fully loaded, than a premature combustion @projectcarsgame

So maybe move to may 7 rather than 12 is true?
 
notanexpert
Oh by the way, ben collins tweeted something interesting a few days ago, dont know if it was mentioned....

Ps a little Bird says the wait is very nearly over .. Better late & fully loaded, than a premature combustion @projectcarsgame

So maybe move to may 7 rather than 12 is true?
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It was. Nothing gets undetected in here. :)

Happy Easter to everyone!
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So I just read some internet articles where SMS is officially stating on the WMD website that they will be releasing free DLC for a period months after the eventual release of the title. Does that mean that ALL DLC they release will be free............or just some of it? Can we expect that at some point alot of the DLC will begin to cost money?
 
kapnk006
So I just read some internet articles where SMS is officially stating on the WMD website that they will be releasing free DLC for a period months after the eventual release of the title. Does that mean that ALL DLC they release will be free............or just some of it? Can we expect that at some point alot of the DLC will begin to cost money?
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Of course not all DLC will be free. Most likely a car or a track will be free. They said every month, I'm a little doubtful, but will be great if true. Internally we don't have any extra info on this, so wmd knows as much as you do.
 
Another question regarding shifting: do you guys shift down the exact same time you start breaking?! Like at the long straight (start/finish) at monza driving into the first chicane. I go full speed in 6th then hit the brakes hard the same time I click the wheel paddle 4 times as fast as I can. I'm still breaking then (when the car is in 2nd), letting go of the break move the whell to the right and roll to the first right turn with no throttle. Then hit the throttle like half way and turn the wheel left ready to accelerate as fast as I can.
Maybe someone can take the time to watch me via FaceTime and teach me a little. :) but it's appreciated if you just answer here.
 
PRO_TOO
Another question regarding shifting: do you guys shift down the exact same time you start breaking?! Like at the long straight (start/finish) at monza driving into the first chicane. I go full speed in 6th then hit the brakes hard the same time I click the wheel paddle 4 times as fast as I can. I'm still breaking then (when the car is in 2nd), letting go of the break move the whell to the right and roll to the first right turn.
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That's GT style unrealistic shifting, if you will try that in a sim you will break the engine and spin. You have to slow down first and shift to a lower gear so you won't end up over revving.
 
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PRO_TOO
Another question regarding shifting: do you guys shift down the exact same time you start breaking?! Like at the long straight (start/finish) at monza driving into the first chicane. I go full speed in 6th then hit the brakes hard the same time I click the wheel paddle 4 times as fast as I can. I'm still breaking then (when the car is in 2nd), letting go of the break move the whell to the right and roll to the first right turn.
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That is a bad technique and will destroy your engine in PCars in no time. Depending on the car, you should brake, then shift down quickly, keep an eye on the revs and your balance. I personally like to have a little delay before i shift to the actual gear i want to take the corner in.
 
Thank you guys. So when shifting down 4 gears I do it step by step in reference to my speed?! Or just break and at the end when i reach nearly cornering speed I do it fast 4 gears down?
 
PRO_TOO
Thank you guys. So when shifting down 4 gears I do it step by step in reference to my speed?! Or just break and at the end when i reach nearly cornering speed I do it fast 4 gears down?
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Downshift faster in the beginning of the braking zone and then spread the intervalls a little wider when you are nearing corner entry.
 
PRO_TOO
Thank you guys. So when shifting down 4 gears I do it step by step in reference to my speed?! Or just break and at the end when i reach nearly cornering speed I do it fast 4 gears down?
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Shift gears as you would your own car, Only when the gear your changing into is within the required rev range.
 
PRO_TOO
Thank you guys. So when shifting down 4 gears I do it step by step in reference to my speed?! Or just break and at the end when i reach nearly cornering speed I do it fast 4 gears down?
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I'd say step by step unless you go into a very tight hairpin or short sharp corner. plus don't forget some high speed corners only require easing off and changing a gear or two and don't need any braking at all; the lower speed/revs will slow the car down as well.
 
Don't forget to blip the throttle to keep the rear settled if being aggresive, but thay may be a little advanced at first.
 
Thank you again. I found myself the Ferrari F40 '92 a good car to learn all this. Still at monza cause I know the track and it got all the stuff needed to learn, imo.

Btw: I recognized that wierd rev sound when shifting down to fast. Now its working out better (and sounding too) as I did what you guys said.
 
JerseyDriverSS
Don't forget to blip the throttle to keep the rear settled if being aggresive, but thay may be a little advanced at first.
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Yeah, was going to suggest this as well. EPR taught me this technique well - the M1 Procar and CSL 3.0 were a handful.
 
JerseyDriverSS
Don't forget to blip the throttle to keep the rear settled if being aggresive, but thay may be a little advanced at first.
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This Is to advanced for me. :)
Na... ;) thank you. I'll try.
The sound is much better now when shifting down. I do it better timed now.
Have I said, that I'm still practicing in gt5 on PS3?! I don't have a pc or Pcars!
 
mister dog
That's GT style unrealistic shifting, if you will try that in a sim you will break the engine and spin. You have to slow down first and shift to a lower gear so you won't end up over revving.
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If you do this in some modern race cars, the ECU will lock out the shift. Some do a basic RPM check, others you can also make dependent on the gear. To go beyond this, some will actually register the number of shirts commanded and down shift when it is safe for the engine to shift. So if you go in and request four down shirts, the car will begin to automatically down shift for you. Couple that with DBW which will blip the throttle for you, and down shifting becomes as simple as pressing a button...
 
will there be any hint system in Pcars to tell me when to shift like the one in gt where it tells you the best gear for the next corner (blinking)? I know, rev meter is there but any other stuff for rookies like me?
Plus I got so lazy spotting breaking points next to the track because of that system in gt! Shame on me. ;)
 
Dyemonic
If you do this in some modern race cars, the ECU will lock out the shift. Some do a basic RPM check, others you can also make dependent on the gear. To go beyond this, some will actually register the number of shirts commanded and down shift when it is safe for the engine to shift. So if you go in and request four down shirts, the car will begin to automatically down shift for you. Couple that with DBW which will blip the throttle for you, and down shifting becomes as simple as pressing a button...
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I think @PRO_TOO is still practicing with the grocery shoppers first ;), but yes in modern race cars downshifting isn't as complicated and you can do all the downshifts practically in one go.
 
PRO_TOO
Thank you guys. So when shifting down 4 gears I do it step by step in reference to my speed?! Or just break and at the end when i reach nearly cornering speed I do it fast 4 gears down?
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Couple of things. One, in a sim, and engine braking effect on the rear wheels in RWD cars will be present. So the timing of downshifts will become very important if you are running without aids. Downshift in a straight line too early and you may lock up the rear tires. Downshift while turning in and trail braking and you will likely lose control. Practicing in GT5 is ok but because there really is no engine braking or tranmission damage it's not going to teach you much.

Second, not all cars are the same. Again, if you are running full simulation without aids, a car like the E30 BMW will require either heel and toe to downshift smoothly or rev matching with the throttle if you are using the paddles. If you don't heel and toe with the full manual you'll have a hard time engaging the gears, and with the paddles you'll get a massive and sudden engine braking effect when you engage the lower gears. A slight throttle blip will fix this.

A modern car with a synchromesh transmission on the other hand will have much smoother downshifting and won't necessarily require the throttle blip to maintain stability. Many modern race cars are particularly easy with smooth downshifting, road cars are the same.

Ultimately you have to practice with each car and find what works and doesn't work and develop a much wider range of driving skills than will ever be necessary with GT, or at least with any GT so far. This is one of the reasons a sim with "only" 70 cars is so much fun. If you run the cars with factory settings only, every car will feel different, every car will require different techniques and skillsets to get the most out of them. Every track will also be different, as driving an Ariel Atom on Donington or Cadwell Park is going to feel a lot different than driving it on some high speed track like Monza or Spa.
 
@PRO_TOO -- Over time, as you get used to shifting, you can downshift based on RPM rather than just timing it. Either by listening or watching the tachometer, like GTP_Monkey said. This matters more in cases where you might drop your speed without necessarily going through the explicit steps of a braking zone (ie. braking, downshifting, then turning in), such as a multi-apex series of corners, or a long sweeper that tightens at the end.

After becoming familiar with a particular car -- since transmission ratios vary -- you'll be able to predict how downshifting from one gear to another will affect your RPM. Generally, the difference in RPM between higher gears (5th/6th) is smaller than lower gears (2nd/3rd).

The whole point of downshifting in the first place is to keep your RPM from falling below the ideal torque/power band (which depends on the car you're driving, of course). You don't really need to downshift until then.
 
Oh boy. You kinda scarred me now... I will probably be going down. Let's see how fast I can wreck all 70 engines. :sick:

Sorry fuzz. I will create one.
 

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