Project CARS General Discussion Thread

[VXR]

Now the XBO controls are sorted, I've just tried the Evo X on Califoria Full and that is the sort of fun I've been expecting from this game. Totally awesome track and proves to me that if it wanted to go in that direction, PCars 2 could make for a fantastic tarmac rally sim.

 

[Awong124]

Yes, I know all of this. What I'm saying is, they don't always do what I ask, so how to I check they did their job properly?

You can't.

 

[Formula1269]

The Formula A cars in this are superb (B, C and Gulf are terrific too). Just had a race around Spa right after a playthrough of the same track on F1 2015, and there is simply no comparison. PCARS urinates on it from a great height. The Formula 1 cars in PCARS feel so much more alive and visceral than Codemaster's physically challenged cars. Would love to see SMS go after the F1 license in the future.

 

[catamount39]

The Formula A cars in this are superb (B, C and Gulf are terrific too). Just had a race around Spa right after a playthrough of the same track on F1 2015, and there is simply no comparison. PCARS urinates on it from a great height. The Formula 1 cars in PCARS feel so much more alive and visceral than Codemaster's physically challenged cars. Would love to see SMS go after the F1 license in the future.

Not to mention we have the V8.

 

[notanexpert]

I also wonder about tires after a pit. I went in at a mandatory pit got new soft tires at the same pressure and it felt like the tires were already worn? My lap times went up 1 to 2 seconds

 

[Lawndart]

Interesting, I feel like I slow Dow after pits to, things seem less stable, or perhaps my tires never really heat up as much as freshly changed preheated tires... But in pcars the longer into a race the slow I seem to get... My fastest laps are always in the first five... Completely the opposite in real life for me.

 

[commanderr]

After the pitstop the tires need to heat up a few laps usually but after that I can set the fastest laps.

What concerns me more is that I could run 53 laps and could have finished the race on Imola without changing tires with tire wear on real while the ai pitted around lap 30. Same on spa where I requested a pitstop myself to keep the race somewhat interesting.

 

[Fanapryde]

Three hours endurance in the McLaren F1 at Zolder.
After the first pitstop (mainly for fuel, because my tires still seemed OK) tires kept a nice temperature, no problems.
After second pitstop I got an issue: after 1 lap, one of the tires (left rear) turned red, after two laps the front rear and front right did also, and one lap later all of my tires were red the whole time. No loss of grip though, I even set the fastest lap this way.
I assumed (while it was getting dark) track temperature would drop and it would be more difficult to keep the tires warm.
But it was just the opposite...

 

[Awong124]

Three hours endurance in the McLaren F1 at Zolder.
After the first pitstop (mainly for fuel, because my tires still seemed OK) tires kept a nice temperature, no problems.
After second pitstop I got an issue: after 1 lap, one of the tires (left rear) turned red, after two laps the front rear and front right did also, and one lap later all of my tires were red the whole time. No loss of grip though, I even set the fastest lap this way.
I assumed (while it was getting dark) track temperature would drop and it would be more difficult to keep the tires warm.
But it was just the opposite...

Lol.

Don't know anything about your actual question though.

 

[VonSlamStone]

Three hours endurance in the McLaren F1 at Zolder.
After the first pitstop (mainly for fuel, because my tires still seemed OK) tires kept a nice temperature, no problems.
After second pitstop I got an issue: after 1 lap, one of the tires (left rear) turned red, after two laps the front rear and front right did also, and one lap later all of my tires were red the whole time. No loss of grip though, I even set the fastest lap this way.
I assumed (while it was getting dark) track temperature would drop and it would be more difficult to keep the tires warm.
But it was just the opposite...

so for some odd reason the tire temp graphic will show your tires going red when they are hitting their peak performance temp. if you had switched to the telemetry hud you would have seen that they were actually dark green. it seems that SMS didn't add as much color variance to the standard hud temp gauge as they did to the telemetry hud.

 

[Darragh]

By the way, for that HUD telemetry screen, do the figures underneath the tyres also display the tyre temperatures? It reaches 100 in corners and hits the teens on the straights, so it seems like it portrays how hot the tyres are. I'm still not fully sure though.

 

[catamount39]

By the way, for that HUD telemetry screen, do the figures underneath the tyres also display the tyre temperatures? It reaches 100 in corners and hits the teens on the straights, so it seems like it portrays how hot the tyres are. I'm still not fully sure though.

Should be four numbers for tires and four numbers for brakes. IIRC on Motec's it's tires on the left and brakes on the right.

 

[Darragh]

Should be four numbers for tires and four numbers for brakes. IIRC on Motec's it's tires on the left and brakes on the right.

Yeah there's four numbers for what I assume to be the tyre temperatures, each under the tyre graphics. There are brake temperatures as well that are right on the brake graphic IIRC.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

Three hours endurance in the McLaren F1 at Zolder.
After the first pitstop (mainly for fuel, because my tires still seemed OK) tires kept a nice temperature, no problems.
After second pitstop I got an issue: after 1 lap, one of the tires (left rear) turned red, after two laps the front rear and front right did also, and one lap later all of my tires were red the whole time. No loss of grip though, I even set the fastest lap this way.
I assumed (while it was getting dark) track temperature would drop and it would be more difficult to keep the tires warm.
But it was just the opposite...

It's a new bug.

 

[Fanapryde]

so for some odd reason the tire temp graphic will show your tires going red when they are hitting their peak performance temp. if you had switched to the telemetry hud you would have seen that they were actually dark green. it seems that SMS didn't add as much color variance to the standard hud temp gauge as they did to the telemetry hud.

Did not know that, did not check telemetry while driving neither.
But in this case the tire hud should have shown the same color in the first two stints, especially since the warmer track temperatures, no ?
They were green, even blueish in the middel region, all the time...

 

[VonSlamStone]

Did not know that, did not check telemetry while driving neither.
But in this case the tire hud should have shown the same color in the first two stints, especially since the warmer track temperatures, no ?
They were green, even blueish in the middel region, all the time...

if you were using stock pressures your tires almost always over inflated and take a long time to heat up so as the wore down you were finally generating enough heat to keep them at those temps

 

[Fanapryde]

if you were using stock pressures your tires almost always over inflated and take a long time to heat up so as the wore down you were finally generating enough heat to keep them at those temps

Well, I did not change tire pressure for stops 1 and 2.
They should have been the same then....
Stint 1 and 2 were the same, while the 3th stint they seemed warmer (according to the hud)

 

[Darragh]

Had fun playing online for the first time today...

Did three races, well started three. First one, I qualify second, start with a drive through penalty for some reason. At the start, yeah, as I expected, massive lag and just trembled to the end avoiding all the other players. Finished second last, much to the hosts fun! He bet 'last placed guy' will finish last again and 'me' finish second last in the next race! He started calling me Spanish as well, because of my name lol. Great craic I thought!

Second race: 5 players in total. No proper qualifying session, and no lag, thankfully. Finished in second, with no competition throughout.

Then did another race with ten drivers. Started on pole, led through the first few corners knowing that cars were flying around in all angles because of lag. Oh, and I got another drive-thru penalty.. Then I decided I'd pull up at the side of the road and wait til everyone gets through to avoid crashing into someone because of my connection. Didn't bother take the penalty to see what would happen and got DQ'd

Looks like I won't be racing online in this game much, thanks once again Internet connection lol.

Edit: realised this turned into a rant post. Sorry haha

 

[Johnnypenso]

Looks like Nic Hamilton is back on board for Project Cars 2. Didn't know that Nic was born with cerebral palsy.
http://www.wmdportal.com/projectnews/nicolas-hamilton-rejoins-sms-for-project-cars-2/

Here's his brand new website if anyone is interested:
http://www.nicolashamilton.com/#driven-to-inspire

 

[notanexpert]

Born in 1992. Wow he's the age of my brother

 

[notanexpert]

http://wiiudaily.com/2015/06/project-cars-dislikes-nintendo-users/

Just a bit of funny reading. If its been mentioned before, my bad, just made me chuckle. Sorry to the Wii users

 

[ryandtw]

http://wiiudaily.com/2015/06/project-cars-dislikes-nintendo-users/

Just a bit of funny reading. If its been mentioned before, my bad, just made me chuckle. Sorry to the Wii users

That's a bit disappointing for those who were expecting Wii U, but then again, Nintendo's getting ready with the NX, and really, does anybody use a Nintendo for hard-core gaming other than Nintendo IP games (e.g. Mario, Zelda)?

 

[VBR]

Didn't know that Nic was born with cerebral palsy.

Yep, he's one tough guy to battle that & get himself fit to race. Respect!


👍

 

[bleeder]

Anyone heard that SMS are working to stop the soft steering dampening setting in control options being fixed so when it's turned off it stays that way?

I used to always forget it defaults to ON, but now that I remember it I've found it makes a huge difference to the wheel. Feels way more precise with it switched off. Weren't they going to fix it in a previous patch?

 

[Crisis Nine]

Anyone heard that SMS are working to stop the soft steering dampening setting in control options being fixed so when it's turned off it stays that way?

I used to always forget it defaults to ON, but now that I remember it I've found it makes a huge difference to the wheel. Feels way more precise with it switched off. Weren't they going to fix it in a previous patch?

Here's a question linked to that. With advanced options set to off, does it automatically turn them all off or just not allow you to toggle them?

 

[notanexpert]

OK so did they even fix the wet weather ai? At Watkins glen in gt3 class, I was doing 95-105 in McLaren gt3 car on the wide downhill swooping right turn. It felt as fast as I could go, and in the dry apparently it was as fast that the ai could go too. But during the final few laps of the race I decided to simulate the rest of the race (during storm) and my ai driver was doing that same turn at 115!

Well at least he gained 4 positions for me in 3 laps

 

[Fanapryde]

OK so did they even fix the wet weather ai?

I guess not.
Historic TC at Brands Hatch, 8 laps with the old Escort.
Managed to lead by 5,3" when rain started in lap 6.
AI gained 3 seconds/lap and I barely managed to finish 3rd.
In qualification it also started raining in the last 5 minutes, but AI was not faster, so I figured they were "fixed" ... Wrong conclusion...

 

[notanexpert]

I mean I understand I may not be a very good driver but logically if I went from 95-105 to 85-90 in the wet, my ai driver should have been doing like 125-135 while dry (all mph by the way)

 

[Awong124]

OK so did they even fix the wet weather ai?

I guess not.
Historic TC at Brands Hatch, 8 laps with the old Escort.
Managed to lead by 5,3" when rain started in lap 6.
AI gained 3 seconds/lap and I barely managed to finish 3rd.
In qualification it also started raining in the last 5 minutes, but AI was not faster, so I figured they were "fixed" ... Wrong conclusion...

I thought they did. I had two recent races in changing conditions.

First race in a Ginetta G40 Junior at Silverstone. When it started raining and the AI and I were all on slicks, my lap times started to drop and the AI lap times dropped by roughly the same amount. The gap remained pretty much the same. Then almost everybody pitted, including me, except for four AI that stayed out on slicks. I started catching those four by 3 seconds a lap, but didn't have enough laps remaining so I lost.

Second race in Prototype 1 cars at Imola. It was a 10 minute race, so it worked out to being 8 laps. It started raining on lap 7. I was leading by about 2 seconds. At the end of lap 7, my lap time was about 2 seconds slower than when it was dry, but the gap hadn't decreased. On lap 8 it was raining pretty heavily, and everybody stayed out on slicks because it was the final lap. I was really tiptoeing around, but the gap to 2nd place remained constant.

In my observation, I think that AI behavior is more consistent in career series races than invitational events. I might be wrong, but that's what it seems like to me.

 

[Fanapryde]

In my observation, I think that AI behavior is more consistent in career series races than invitational events. I might be wrong, but that's what it seems like to me.

Could very well be. Did not have much rain in career series lately, so I can't compare.