Project CARS General Discussion Thread

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I'm aware of all the features that are planned. Planned and completed are two different things. Completed with bugs and completed without bugs is also different. Hoping for the best.
 
Willfred_1
We've already mentioned we can have 64 guys in a lobby on PC at the moment
32 and 20 are probably worse case senarios with optimisation the number will probably increase.
But the limiting factor is the frame rate drop max I can have in a race depends on track and cars I've had 40 on track and stayed at about 30fps
But tracks like imola I have to a lot less due to the track being more demanding.

as mentioned above it will vary but you should be able to I can get 30 ish on high/ med with 2gb
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Puh only 30 FPS? It looks like no matter how you want to play this game, you have to invest a b.load of money :mad:🤬

On PS4 you have to buy a wheel. On PC you need a 2000€ PC to enjoy the game lol. How can it even be that Pcars looks on PS4 as good as on an 1000€ PC? And the PC is the leading platform. The PS4 have a graphics card that is about as good as an 7850HD and can do 1080p with 60FPS on high settings and an 280x can do medium settings with only 30fps? 🤬🤬:banghead::grumpy:
 
Sele1981
Puh only 30 FPS? It looks like no matter how you want to play this game, you have to invest a b.load of money :mad:🤬

On PS4 you have to buy a wheel. On PC you need a 2000€ PC to enjoy the game lol. How can it even be that Pcars looks on PS4 as good as on an 1000€ PC? And the PC is the leading platform. The PS4 have a graphics card that is about as good as an 7850HD and can do 1080p with 60FPS on high settings and an 280x can do medium settings with only 30fps? 🤬🤬:banghead::grumpy:
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please also remember that my pc cost the same as a ps4 and if spent a another £100 i could crossfire the gpu's meaning i would get 4gb of dedicated graphics memory for same price as a xb1 bundle it will run higher frame rates on however by capping it at 30 it can look real pretty on my PC.
As the game gets to release the and optimization will be better and frame rates will improve.

also please remember that Intel is always more popular this means that optimization normally is better on Intel to start of with
 
Willfred_1
please also remember that my pc cost the same as a ps4 and if spent a another £100 i could crossfire the gpu's meaning i would get 4gb of dedicated graphics memory for same price as a xb1 bundle it will run higher frame rates on however by capping it at 30 it can look real pretty on my PC.
As the game gets to release the and optimization will be better and frame rates will improve.

also please remember that Intel is always more popular this means that optimization normally is better on Intel to start of with
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What graphics card do you use? As I´ve readed correctly, if you do crossfire, the RAM size stays still the same like you use one card. So yours will stay at 2GB.

I have two r9 280x cards. Maybe I wont sell one of them, keep it and do crossfire.
 
Sele1981
What graphics card do you use? As I´ve readed correctly, if you do crossfire, the RAM size stays still the same like you use one card. So yours will stay at 2GB.

I have two r9 280x cards. Maybe I wont sell one of them, keep it and do crossfire.
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But the way it works would mean its splits the load evenly. The male the process more efficient I believe which then yields to a higher frame rate.
However its recommended that if you can afford one large gpu your better off as you will have less compatibility issues.
From reading up on it when researching specs the improvement is between 25-90%. It is also wide to check CPU speed and power to prevent bottle necks and power shortages.
 
Willfred_1
But the way it works would mean its splits the load evenly. The male the process more efficient I believe which then yields to a higher frame rate.
However its recommended that if you can afford one large gpu your better off as you will have less compatibility issues.
From reading up on it when researching specs the improvement is between 25-90%. It is also wide to check CPU speed and power to prevent bottle necks and power shortages.
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I tried crossfire yesterday with 2 x r9 280x and Assetto Corsa but got only 16 FPS (normally 50 FPS with one card) and then I´ve read something about profiles etc. but stoped it because I am no tech guru...
 
DG_Silva
As far as I have read, Crossfire is not supported in AC yet, best gameplay seems to be with a single card atm.
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Sele1981
I tried crossfire yesterday with 2 x r9 280x and Assetto Corsa but got only 16 FPS (normally 50 FPS with one card) and then I´ve read something about profiles etc. but stoped it because I am no tech guru...
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the support for crossfire or sli modes seems to vary massively however does seem a cheaper alternative to powerful gpus
 
Oh yes, definitely, and at one point I was considering it, I still might when I have the money to upgrade again, this time to an i7-3770k and another 7950.
 
Willfred_1
Is this a self build or a off the shelf PC. as having just built my PC it was surprisingly easy
That you very well the PC I just built is amd equivalent but only 2gb on the gpu my average frame rate is 30 with everything on high if put some ultra is still stays about 25fps as console gamer I'm not used 60fps so I'm happy lower frame rate. I will be uploading a vid of the games performance on my computer in terms of frame rate I would expect 40+ due to the better gpu
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Hello Willfred_1,
This is an off the shelf PC, I used to build high end PC's just because I love technology and computers, but I saw this and was thinking it would be simple to just buy this unless I need more power in the GPU. Like I said this was listed just under $1,000 (like $956.00), if you think I can save lots of money building it myself, I may consider it, but it seems the days of saving by building is history. What do you think?
 
DrJustice
You're thinking right there! :)

That setup will do you well. If anything, the first thing I'd consider "upgrading" there is the GPU, although a 760 should be a fine starting point. Windows is fine for gaming, and such a machine can be used for a lot of other things - it'd be plenty powerful for running heavy software.

A big TV with 1080p via HDMI is very nice and gives good framerates. Many of us, including myself, use just that and are happy with it.

Beware that many TVs have high "input lag" (not pixel response time). Most TVs have a game or PC mode exactly for the purpose of reducing lag. My TV is middle of the ground lag wise, and I'm OK with it even though I consider myself sensitive to lag. Having a powerful, smoothly running PC (as you outline) helps a great deal.

As mentioned previously, a PC is the next level of gaming freedom. And you get to keep your consoles on the side. My advice is to go for it!

Edit: Also, games are cheaper on PC.
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DrJustice,
Thanks for the response, I was hoping I would be able to run PCARS on the highest settings, I don't have access yet, but I believe it has been called ultra.
You mentioned that the 760 is a good starting point, do you think I should be aiming higher?

I went over to the NVIDIA Website and looked at the performance chart, it looks like the GTX TITAN Black is the top GPU, but that cost more then $1k, strange thing is the GTX 690 shows the highest performance on the chart, could that be a misprint?

I don't want to spend $1,000 just on the Graphics card, that's insane!!!
 
Willfred_1
Is this a self build or a off the shelf PC. as having just built my PC it was surprisingly easy
That you very well the PC I just built is amd equivalent but only 2gb on the gpu my average frame rate is 30 with everything on high if put some ultra is still stays about 25fps as console gamer I'm not used 60fps so I'm happy lower frame rate. I will be uploading a vid of the games performance on my computer in terms of frame rate I would expect 40+ due to the better gpu
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What is your setup if you don't mind? Sounds like you might be close to mine.
 
IMZ14U2NV
Hello Willfred_1,
This is an off the shelf PC, I used to build high end PC's just because I love technology and computers, but I saw this and was thinking it would be simple to just buy this unless I need more power in the GPU. Like I said this was listed just under $1,000 (like $956.00), if you think I can save lots of money building it myself, I may consider it, but it seems the days of saving by building is history. What do you think?
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I think these days you build a PC for fun or to get the components you want. If you want to save money over big box you need s lot of price research and be lucky with one of those famous micro center CPU sales (if you live in the us). It becomes easier to save money at the high end though
 
IMZ14U2NV
Hello Willfred_1,
This is an off the shelf PC, I used to build high end PC's just because I love technology and computers, but I saw this and was thinking it would be simple to just buy this unless I need more power in the GPU. Like I said this was listed just under $1,000 (like $956.00), if you think I can save lots of money building it myself, I may consider it, but it seems the days of saving by building is history. What do you think?
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it all depends on where you live i live in a rural part of england my choices were build one or buy one
i was siding towards buying one however many side with intel and as a student i dont have the money required for good setup so building one was my only option.
Johnnypenso
What is your setup if you don't mind? Sounds like you might be close to mine.
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fx 6300
r9 270x 2gb
gigabyte 970 ud3p
8gb of ram (might go to 16 fora CAD package)
evaga 500w psu
1tb hardrive
cheap dvd drive
in total parts were about £450
price for a similar build from a local shop was £800 with intel bits rather than amd
this falls between the great and superb catergory on the logical incremants
 
Sele1981
Puh only 30 FPS? It looks like no matter how you want to play this game, you have to invest a b.load of money :mad:🤬

On PS4 you have to buy a wheel. On PC you need a 2000€ PC to enjoy the game lol. How can it even be that Pcars looks on PS4 as good as on an 1000€ PC? And the PC is the leading platform. The PS4 have a graphics card that is about as good as an 7850HD and can do 1080p with 60FPS on high settings and an 280x can do medium settings with only 30fps? 🤬🤬:banghead::grumpy:
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Consoles are optimized for gaming so you just cant simply compare the hardware to a PC they are completely different beasts with how they handle code. They play all sorts of other games, play Blu Ray movies, stream media, etc.. The cost of the T300 and the PS4 is $800 US.. and for what you get considering the quality of the T300 wheel (not the pedals) and the quality level a PS4 plays games it is not a bad deal.. you will have the ps4 for many years there will be other racing games.

A windows pc is made for doing all sorts of things from work to play to personal adult stuff so hopefully you are not buying a computer just for gaming.. it has many other uses you cant use a console for obviously. The advantage is being able to use any wheel you want. Also from what I have read and priced out myself a few times (I thought about this a lot) There are from scratch PC builds that total $800 after tax that will play project cars at about the same level as a PS4 - you will have to adjust the graphics settings to get the fps you want.. but the PS4 does not have full PC settings at 1080p.

Really.. compared to what I spent on PS3 - first one was the metal gear solid bundle and I think it cost me $450.. then just back in January it died an I spent another $250 on a new bundle. My DFGT was a damaged box special for $100.. so that is still $800. Not really a big deal when you break it down over time.. The fact that people are waiting to buy a console & wheel or build a PC for one games makes it seem expensive.. when in reality if you are a gamer you likely have once before.

Willfred_1
please also remember that my pc cost the same as a ps4 and if spent a another £100 i could crossfire the gpu's meaning i would get 4gb of dedicated graphics memory for same price as a xb1 bundle it will run higher frame rates on however by capping it at 30 it can look real pretty on my PC.
As the game gets to release the and optimization will be better and frame rates will improve.

also please remember that Intel is always more popular this means that optimization normally is better on Intel to start of with
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Curious - You say the price of your PC is £450 but did not include a case and OS in the list. Amazon UK has PS4 at £350

Not knocking your build, it is a nice budget build that seems to play the game very well.. but a lot of people who are looking to build a PC for their first time seem to be expecting to do a complete build from scratch for the same price as a PS4 and get similar performance and I do not believe it is possible.
 
I can almost say with absolute certainty that it ISN'T possible to build a PC to PS4 quality gameplay at UK prices. Not a hope in heck.
 
GTAndy36
I can almost say with absolute certainty that it ISN'T possible to build a PC to PS4 quality gameplay at UK prices. Not a hope in heck.
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Unless you are making over 6 figures or don't have lots of expenses.
 
GTAndy36
I can almost say with absolute certainty that it ISN'T possible to build a PC to PS4 quality gameplay at UK prices. Not a hope in heck.
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Spitfire77
Curious - You say the price of your PC is £450 but did not include a case and OS in the list. Amazon UK has PS4 at £350

Not knocking your build, it is a nice budget build that seems to play the game very well.. but a lot of people who are looking to build a PC for their first time seem to be expecting to do a complete build from scratch for the same price as a PS4 and get similar performance and I do not believe it is possible.
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your both right you cant build a pc to run it as well as a console and that's down to numbers of production

in response to the case and os the case was a discounted one due to the packaging being damaged it was included price but i forgot to list it. the os was deactivated on a old computer and put onto the new one thus no money was paid for that.

when i compare it to my PS4 there a few advantages and disadvantages.
+'s
steam opens up a world of cheap enjoyable games with instant access.
flexibility of a pc means i can do a variety tasks not just gaming
the ability to upgrade when needed
a wide range of gadgets and gizmos for pc gaming

-'s
lots research needed
cost can be high if not researched properly
time spent adjust settings for each game to get best
 
Now this looks interesting, I wonder what that could be :)


Build 789 (15/08/14, Team Member+)
Audio:
* Lotus 98 Turbo incar and external engine sets, plus an AI version. Includes other vehicle events tranny, gears, backfires, distant roll-offs and trajectory. An even NEWER distant based reverb/echo effec - check it out! Plus a slight update to the turbo logic for turbo 7.
Render:
* DX11: Fix for PC gamma issue
* DX11: Fix for missing tyres/driver on XB1
* Fix for in game editing of static emap postions.
* DX11: Enable Instance ID style shader instancing
* DX11: Runtime support for Vertex Instance ID style mesh instancing.
* Fix for dynamic renderable objects being placed in the static emap.
* Fix for potential occasional random crash when going from front end to game (crash was in odd places due to re-use of deleted memory).
Effects:
* Added code to calculate the bias for drying of puddles on the racing line. Basically the effect now ramps up over time and there is an effect of being overwhelmed by current rain, so in a storm the line is only a bit dryer, but as rain vanishes the line can dry almost completely.
GUI:
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* Added quick guide, button & screen
* Fix for player always appearing in non player series result lists
* Removed player index from monitor names, and added spectate title
* New video voice overs and career tutorials, first pass complete. Removed obsolete track description entries.
* Updating monitor screen title text depending on whether the session is timing based, or lap based. Also corrected the time format of the best lap times next to each drivers name on that list.
Characters:
* Crowds: Created and placed sitting crowds for Outlon
* Driver male: Updated materials - removed alcantara from visors and composition on M version
Controllers:
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Career:
* Fixed up career DB file
* Career Championships: Formula Rookie series updated to correct participant count.
Physics:
* Quick pass over Formula A for AI stability
* Fixed player and AI vehicle metrics pose disparity.
* Tires: Lotus 49 setup symmetry fix. FB R6 tire. FB CR2 lo tire. FC setup range fix. FC R21 tire. FFB default base drag fix
Vehicles:
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* Added three "thingies" to vehicle list.
Tracks:
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* Eifelwald: Added the new tree override textures specific to this track
* Oulton Park Foster: Removed intersecting trees and replaced with 3d in places
* Silverstone: Grid markings added, pitmarks added, gridskids added, more trunkonly collisions added
* Monterey: Added new building on the lake island, add latest assets, udpated xml files (add some trees around the lake and cars, truck), update xml files - delete some tent on the lake and add some car, trees, truck, add txt for lake building and other small assets
 

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