Project Motor Racing General Discussion

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How is it that in PC2 we had so many cars and tracks, and now it seems like we're a bit more strapped for those aspects? Was there a bigger budget for that game than for this one? I prefer quality over quantity, but right off the bat, I miss some tracks like Watkins and Road America.
 
Fezzik
More race footage - variety of cars and camera angles



TL;DR - as with the other vids - looks good, sounds good, handles well even on the PS5 controller, AI all over the place (to put it mildly, in some parts it looks absolutely awful).

If you're just going to hotlap or do multiplayer I think it looks great. If you're planning on doing the career hold off until the day 1 patch and see if that fixes the AI.
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Yay the C6.R is in the game!
 
_Bardock_
How is it that in PC2 we had so many cars and tracks, and now it seems like we're a bit more strapped for those aspects? Was there a bigger budget for that game than for this one? I prefer quality over quantity, but right off the bat, I miss some tracks like Watkins and Road America.
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PC2 was built over PC1, so about 6 years of development. PMR was probably started a bit more than 2 years ago where they could not use anything from PC2 since it belongs to EA.

Also not sure if the team is smaller (or bigger?) than at SMS or if they used some outsourced work again, but that could also have an impact.
 
_Bardock_
How is it that in PC2 we had so many cars and tracks, and now it seems like we're a bit more strapped for those aspects? Was there a bigger budget for that game than for this one? I prefer quality over quantity, but right off the bat, I miss some tracks like Watkins and Road America.
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Well the main answer is simply that this game has nothing to do with project cars, yes some of the team are on this game and Ian Bell heads it up but it has nothing to do with it.

The working title for this game before it became Project Motor Racing, was GTRevival, and in the build up to that and then PMR, it's always been referenced as a successor to GTR, GTR2 and GT Legends. Focussing on GT racing specifically with modding support and solid groundwork for single player and online.

Yes the track count is lower than perhaps everyone would like but as has been stated already, budget likely plays a part there, look at how many circuits are currently unlicensed and under generic names, the marketing, yes there's been some but not a mad push. Relying on short trailers and influencer content.
 
Perhaps they're keeping the Ferraris separate until 2026? Maybe we'll get the Ferrari license once the three 10 car DLC packs get released?
 
Details noticed on Steam regarding the DLC packs in the season pass. I'll put it in spoiler tags for those would rather be surprised.

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Ryan81
Perhaps they're keeping the Ferraris separate until 2026? Maybe we'll get the Ferrari license once the three 10 car DLC packs get released?
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Highly unlikely. We still have 23 or so cars to be revealed, it's the only conspicuous exclusion currently and we know they've been spotted at various points of development. They won't be kept separate or come later, they just haven't been announced yet.

They may not get announced at all of course but I'm confident they will be imminently.
 
MagpieRacer
Highly unlikely. We still have 23 or so cars to be revealed, it's the only conspicuous exclusion currently and we know they've been spotted at various points of development. They won't be kept separate or come later, they just haven't been announced yet.

They may not get announced at all of course but I'm confident they will be imminently.
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I make it 17 cars left, from my list and the one on the Straight 4 forum. 53 cars so far officially revealed or clearly seen in PMR trailers/gameplay (base game only, so excluding GTE, Group 5 and the Praga Bohema mod).

More than Ferrari even, I hope they have the McLaren licence. The GT1 class page mentions Longtails more than once. I want to drive the F1 GTR and have it actually be on pace with its in-game competition.
 
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Cayit
All these DLC's are they for free or you have to Pay for it..?
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They are part of the paid season pass. You can get the year 1 bundle with the game or it will be available separately but we don't know how much for yet.

Fezzik
I make it 17 cars left, from my list and the one on the Straight 4 forum. 53 cars so far officially revealed or clearly seen in PMR trailers/gameplay (base game only, so excluding GTE, Group 5 and the Praga Bohema mod).
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Ah yes of course, I was going by the site which is still missing some of what has been spotted. It will be 83 including those last 3 packs you mentioned which is a dam solid starting point if you ask me.
 
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Right, I'm going to nail my colours to the mast of the DLC and chuck out some predictions based on what we have above and estimated numbers in each pack. Spoiler tagged again for those who don't want to know.

GT500 pack, says current GT500 titans and early 2000s so I reckon we will get:

Current:
Toyota GR Supra GT500
Nissan Z NISMO GT500
Honda Civic Type R GT
Nissan Z GT300
Toyota GT86 GT300

Early 2000s:
Honda NSX GT500
Nissan Skyline R34 GT500
Nissan 350Z GT500
Lamborghini Diablo JGTC
Toyota Supra GT500

Circuit, you'd have to put money on it being Suzuka, but don't count out Autopolis or Fuji either.

GT Legends, specifies 1967 sportscar season, mid 60s and early 70s:
Ferrari 330 P4
Ford GT40
Ford MKII
Porsche 906
Shelby Cobra
Alfa Romeo Tipo 33
Chevrolet Corvette '70
Alpine A110
Shelby Cobra Daytona
Porsche 904

Circuit, I'm gonna go for Watkins Glenn, as it joined the world sportscar championship in 1968 and stayed on into the 70s. So in terms of relevance to the pack theme. However I wouldn't be shocked if it was Laguna Seca. either.

V8 Thunder, should be straightforward to figure out:

Current V8 Supercars:
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
Ford Mustang S650

2013:
Ford Falcon FG
Holden Commodore VF
Nissan Altima L33
Mercedes E63 AMG

Current TransAM:
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Ford Mustang

Lates 60s/early 70s:
Chevrolet Camaro
Ford Mustang
Pontiac Firebird

Circuit will either be whatever doesn't make it in the previous pack between Laguna or Watkins, or it'll be Road America.

Endurance Expansion:
LMP1:
Acura ARX-02a
Aston Martin AMR One
Audi R18 TDI
Peugeot 908
Porsche 919
Toyota TS030

GTP:
Toyota 88C
Jaguar XJR-9
Eagle HF89
Nissan GTP ZX Turbo

Circuit, I'll eat my hat if it isn't Circuit de la Sarthe, with current and historic versions.
 
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MagpieRacer
Right, I'm going to nail my colours to the mast of the DLC and chuck out some predictions based on what we have above and estimated numbers in each pack. Spoiler tagged again for those who don't want to know.

GT500 pack, says current GT500 titans and early 2000s so I reckon we will get:

Current:
Toyota GR Supra GT500
Nissan Z NISMO GT500
Honda Civic Type R GT
Nissan Z GT300
Toyota GT86 GT300

Early 2000s:
Honda NSX GT500
Nissan Skyline R34 GT500
Nissan 350Z GT500
Lamborghini Diablo JGTC
Toyota Supra GT500

Circuit, you'd have to put money on it being Suzuka, but don't count out Autopolis or Fuji either.

GT Legends, specifies 1967 sportscar season, mid 60s and early 70s:
Ferrari 330 P4
Ford GT40
Ford MKII
Porsche 906
Shelby Cobra
Alfa Romeo Tipo 33
Chevrolet Corvette '70
Alpine A110
Shelby Cobra Daytona
Porsche 904

Circuit, I'm gonna go for Watkins Glenn, as it joined the world sportscar championship in 1968 and stayed on into the 70s. So in terms of relevance to the pack theme. However I wouldn't be shocked if it was Laguna Seca. either.

V8 Thunder, should be straightforward to figure out:

Current V8 Supercars:
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
Ford Mustang S650

2013:
Ford Falcon FG
Holden Commodore VF
Nissan Altima L33
Mercedes E63 AMG

Current TransAM:
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Ford Mustang

Lates 60s/early 70s:
Chevrolet Camaro
Ford Mustang
Pontiac Firebird

Circuit will either be whatever doesn't make it in the previous pack between Laguna or Watkins, or it'll be Road America.

Endurance Expansion:
LMP1:
Acura ARX-02a
Aston Martin AMR One
Audi R18 TDI
Peugeot 908
Porsche 919
Toyota TS030

GTP:
Toyota 88C
Jaguar XJR-9
Eagle HF89
Nissan GTP ZX Turbo

Circuit, I'll eat my hat if it isn't Circuit de la Sarthe, with current and historic versions.
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For the V8 pack im going to guess it being Road America for the road course hint or even Long Beach. Why not
 
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MagpieRacer
Right, I'm going to nail my colours to the mast of the DLC and chuck out some predictions based on what we have above and estimated numbers in each pack. Spoiler tagged again for those who don't want to know.

GT500 pack, says current GT500 titans and early 2000s so I reckon we will get:

Current:
Toyota GR Supra GT500
Nissan Z NISMO GT500
Honda Civic Type R GT
Nissan Z GT300
Toyota GT86 GT300

Early 2000s:
Honda NSX GT500
Nissan Skyline R34 GT500
Nissan 350Z GT500
Lamborghini Diablo JGTC
Toyota Supra GT500

Circuit, you'd have to put money on it being Suzuka, but don't count out Autopolis or Fuji either.

GT Legends, specifies 1967 sportscar season, mid 60s and early 70s:
Ferrari 330 P4
Ford GT40
Ford MKII
Porsche 906
Shelby Cobra
Alfa Romeo Tipo 33
Chevrolet Corvette '70
Alpine A110
Shelby Cobra Daytona
Porsche 904

Circuit, I'm gonna go for Watkins Glenn, as it joined the world sportscar championship in 1968 and stayed on into the 70s. So in terms of relevance to the pack theme. However I wouldn't be shocked if it was Laguna Seca. either.

V8 Thunder, should be straightforward to figure out:

Current V8 Supercars:
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
Ford Mustang S650

2013:
Ford Falcon FG
Holden Commodore VF
Nissan Altima L33
Mercedes E63 AMG

Current TransAM:
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Ford Mustang

Lates 60s/early 70s:
Chevrolet Camaro
Ford Mustang
Pontiac Firebird

Circuit will either be whatever doesn't make it in the previous pack between Laguna or Watkins, or it'll be Road America.

Endurance Expansion:
LMP1:
Acura ARX-02a
Aston Martin AMR One
Audi R18 TDI
Peugeot 908
Porsche 919
Toyota TS030

GTP:
Toyota 88C
Jaguar XJR-9
Eagle HF89
Nissan GTP ZX Turbo

Circuit, I'll eat my hat if it isn't Circuit de la Sarthe, with current and historic versions.
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I don't think you will have to eat your hat on that last track TBH
 
RetroVelocity
Also, as a non-binary/trans person, I can’t in good conscience fund a game that is being promoted and developed by a transphobic neo-fascist
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I knew about Austin, and was honestly prepared to ignore it as just one bad apple because I really wanted to play this game (I'm a hypocrit, I boycotted Hogwarts Legacy because of Rowling but happily played Cyberpunk despite all the issues with CDPR). I didn't know that Ian Bell waves away any criticism of Austin's comments and defends the far-right. I'm not prepared to knowingly support people like that anymore. EDIT - deleted the links, the info about Austin Ogonoski (the game designer) and Ian Bell's comments are easy to find if people care enough to look.
 
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I found this on the Group 5 Pack's Steam DLC page.

I'll also make guesses on some of the DLCs' possible content based on the Season Pass on Steam. Spoilers ahead.

GT Legends Pack

"GT classics from the early '70s"
  • 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 2.8
  • 1970 Chevrolet Corvette C3
  • 1973 Nissan Fairlady 240ZG
  • 1974 Jaguar E-Type Group 44

Wild card guesses:
  • 1972 Nissan Skyline 2000 GT-R
  • 1972 Ford Capri 2600 Le Mans
  • 1974 Porsche 911 Carrera RSR Turbo

"meet icons of the '67 sportscar championship"
  • 1967 Ferrari 330 P4
  • 1967 Ford GT40 Mark IV
  • 1967 Porsche 904 GTS
  • 1967 Porsche 906 Carrera 6

Wild card guesses:
  • 1967 Porsche 907
  • 1967 Porsche 910
  • 1967 Chaparral 2F
  • 1967 Ferrari 412P

"mid 60s GT titans"
  • Chevrolet Corvette C2
  • Porsche 904 GTS
  • 1966 Shelby Cobra 289
  • 1967 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
  • 1964 Shelby Daytona Coupe

Japanese GT500 Pack

"current GT500 titans"
  • 2022 Nissan Z GT500
  • 2021 Toyota GR Supra GT500
  • 2021 Nissan GT-R Nismo GT500
  • 2017 Honda NSX GT500
"early-2000s mega-legends"
  • 2005 Toyota Supra GT500
  • 2005 McLaren F1 GTR GT500
  • 2005 Nissan Fairlady Z GT500
  • 2005 Lamborghini Murcielago RG-1
  • 2005 Honda NSX GT500

V8 Power Pack

"current-gen V8 Evos"
  • 2024 Ford Mustang V8 Supercar
  • 2024 Toyota GR Supra V8 Supercar
  • 2024 Chevrolet Camaro V8 Supercar

"2013 COTF brutes"
  • 2013 Ford Falcon FG V8 Supercar
  • 2014 Ford Falcon FG X V8 Supercar
  • 2013 Holden Commodore VF V8 Supercar
  • 2013 Nissan Altima V8 Supercar
  • 2013 Mercedes-Benz E63 V8 Supercar

"current-gen TransAm chargers"
  • Chevrolet Corvette C7 Trans-Am
  • 2018 Ford Mustang Trans-Am
  • 2018 Dodge Challenger Trans-Am
  • 2018 Chevrolet Camaro Trans-Am

"TransAm icons from the legendary late ’60s/early ’70s era"
  • 1967 Chevrolet Penske Camaro Trans-Am
  • 1969 Ford Mustang RTR
  • 1968 Ford Mustang Trans-Am
  • Chevrolet Corvette C2 Trans Am
 
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I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t interested in PMR anymore (I enjoyed Project CARS 2 and I also enjoyed Project CARS 3, the latter mostly due to me convincing myself that it was never supposed to be a PCARS game and only ended up as one due to corporate tomfoolery), but it does suck to know that there are people developing this game who would rather have people like me ****ing dead. Same thing happened with BallisticNG, fantastic game ruined by toxicity and political extremism
 
Kelpy D
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I found this on the Group 5 Pack's Steam DLC page.

I'll also make guesses on some of the DLCs based on the Season Pass on Steam. Spoilers ahead.

GT Legends Pack
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Ok not too bad of a selection. Still missing the American heavy hitters of group 5 racing and one or two other iconic ones but this will do.
 
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Fezzik
I knew about Austin, and was honestly prepared to ignore it as just one bad apple because I really wanted to play this game (I'm a hypocrit, I boycotted Hogwarts Legacy because of Rowling but happily played Cyberpunk despite all the issues with CDPR).

I didn't know that Ian Bell waves away any criticism of Austin's comments and basically supports him and the far right:

powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io

Project Motor Racing has a Nazi Problem - PH Takahashi

If there is one Nazi game developer in the room with ten other people working with them, how many Nazi game developers are there on the team?
powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io
www.resetera.com

Project Motor Racing has a Nazi problem

Article by Joshua Morgan: Project Motor Racing has a Nazi problem Project Motor Racing is set to be released on consoles and PC next month.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com

I'm not prepared to knowingly support people like that anymore. I'm out. Mods, please give someone else permission to edit the car/track thread opening post.
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I do have to say I was quite disapointed when Austin (aka james on PRC) was rewarded for his toxic behavior.

Pretty annoying as I spent my personal time to find his accounts and get them banned from WMD1 and WMD2 as he was not only insanely critical, but he was also leaking confidential info and screenshotting messages from the private WMD forum (including at least one of mine). Remember when he leaked Project Cars 2 screenshots? Because I do.

He was (is?) also a 4chan edgelord, so the Nazi meme stuff is to be expected. Recent screenshots of his "political" beliefs are terribly disappointing to say the least.
 
Fezzik
I knew about Austin, and was honestly prepared to ignore it as just one bad apple because I really wanted to play this game (I'm a hypocrit, I boycotted Hogwarts Legacy because of Rowling but happily played Cyberpunk despite all the issues with CDPR).

I didn't know that Ian Bell waves away any criticism of Austin's comments and basically supports him and the far right:

powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io

Project Motor Racing has a Nazi Problem - PH Takahashi

If there is one Nazi game developer in the room with ten other people working with them, how many Nazi game developers are there on the team?
powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io
www.resetera.com

Project Motor Racing has a Nazi problem

Article by Joshua Morgan: Project Motor Racing has a Nazi problem Project Motor Racing is set to be released on consoles and PC next month.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com

I'm not prepared to knowingly support people like that anymore. I'm out. Mods, please give someone else permission to edit the car/track thread opening post.
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A main fixture of all my cars until recently (for obvious reasons) was a somewhat provocative picture of a girl I’d been seeing for a while, and I just kinda went from there. I didn’t really plan on her to be on there for long until people were legitimately crashing out of races just trying to get a better look. I’m not kidding, I owe at least ten truck wins to a picture of my now ex-girlfriend.

The whole “I Heart Scene Girls” stems from that epic tale, and that logo is what I use to identify myself everywhere on iRacing.
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The "Scene Girls" is the livery that featured content & a link to girls allegedly underage.

So, defend the bigotry and ignore the pedophilia? Shame. I'll still play this, but through other means.
 
Fezzik
I knew about Austin, and was honestly prepared to ignore it as just one bad apple because I really wanted to play this game (I'm a hypocrit, I boycotted Hogwarts Legacy because of Rowling but happily played Cyberpunk despite all the issues with CDPR).

I didn't know that Ian Bell waves away any criticism of Austin's comments and basically supports him and the far right:

powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io

Project Motor Racing has a Nazi Problem - PH Takahashi

If there is one Nazi game developer in the room with ten other people working with them, how many Nazi game developers are there on the team?
powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io powerhouse-takahashi.ghost.io
www.resetera.com

Project Motor Racing has a Nazi problem

Article by Joshua Morgan: Project Motor Racing has a Nazi problem Project Motor Racing is set to be released on consoles and PC next month.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com

I'm not prepared to knowingly support people like that anymore. I'm out. Mods, please give someone else permission to edit the car/track thread opening post.
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Thanks for linking these. I am out too and will make sure to never buy a product these guy's are involved with. Ian Bell comes of almost as bad.

Everyone who is like "I don't want my gaming ruined by politics" and truly does not sympathize with fascist or other inhumane views please read it and think about if this indifferent attitude towards fascists is really an option for yourself.
 

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