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It's called X-Link Kai, you obviousely need a network adapter for it to work but it basically fools your PS2 into thinking the internet connection is a LAN connection, so you can play GT4 online through the LAN mode. Do a search for X link in the GT4 section, theres a few threads about it

EDIT: Check in here.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55956
 
live4speed
It's called X-Link Kai, you obviousely need a network adapter for it to work but it basically fools your PS2 into thinking the internet connection is a LAN connection, so you can play GT4 online through the LAN mode. Do a search for X link in the GT4 section, theres a few threads about it

EDIT: Check in here.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55956

So I was wrong huh? he he :dopey: Thanks alot for the infor LFS :sly:
 
No problem, we all learn something new every day ;).
 
Well, only about 5 days left... then hopefully specualtion have an end and we know more...
 
Max_DC
Well, only about 5 days left... then hopefully specualtion have an end and we know more...
I don't think so after reading this...

Technology news site TG Daily, has reported an interview with a Sony Playstation division spokesman and has denied that the company will be making a PlayStation 3 announcement at CES 2006.

"Although we are participating in many CES activities with Sony," said the spokesperson, "we have no new announcements on PlayStation 3 planned at this time."

Sony still currently has events planned on the CES event schedule for the evening of January 4th and the morning of January 5th in Las Vegas.



EDIT: Even more crap coming out.



PLAYSTATION 3 GOES MULTI-REGION?

New Blu-Ray region-coding puts the US and Japan in the same basket, Europe picnics on its own

11:22 If you're a gaming connosieur, chances are you'll have bemoaned the games industry's policy of region locking titles many times over. Indeed, with most of the - let's say unique - offerings on consoles coming from the East, practically the only way to get a slice of that traditional Japanese bonkersness is to import or (illegally) chip your machine. However, stories fresh off the internet wire are suggesting we could be one step closer to our dream of a multi-region console. Sort of.

Currently, all consoles restrict gamers from playing titles released for regions other than the machine's home territory. However, reports from Japan show the first buds of hope for relaxed region-encoding restrictions in the form of the Playstation 3's new Blu-Ray format. Apparently, Japan and the rest of Asia will now be bracketed in the same region as North and South America, whilst leaving us poor Europeans as the regional outcasts along with Africa.

If there's any truth to these reports then at the very least those lucky Americans will be able to import bizarre Japanese anime movies (and filth) and play them on their Playstation 3 consoles without any internal tinkering whatsoever.
Whether this convenience will extend to actual game software remains a mystery, but we'd bet money that Sony isn't quite ready to swing open the regional flood gates just yet.
 
Solid Lifters
I don't think so after reading this...

Technology news site TG Daily, has reported an interview with a Sony Playstation division spokesman and has denied that the company will be making a PlayStation 3 announcement at CES 2006.

"Although we are participating in many CES activities with Sony," said the spokesperson, "we have no new announcements on PlayStation 3 planned at this time."

Sony still currently has events planned on the CES event schedule for the evening of January 4th and the morning of January 5th in Las Vegas.



EDIT: Even more crap coming out.



PLAYSTATION 3 GOES MULTI-REGION?

New Blu-Ray region-coding puts the US and Japan in the same basket, Europe picnics on its own

11:22 If you're a gaming connosieur, chances are you'll have bemoaned the games industry's policy of region locking titles many times over. Indeed, with most of the - let's say unique - offerings on consoles coming from the East, practically the only way to get a slice of that traditional Japanese bonkersness is to import or (illegally) chip your machine. However, stories fresh off the internet wire are suggesting we could be one step closer to our dream of a multi-region console. Sort of.

Currently, all consoles restrict gamers from playing titles released for regions other than the machine's home territory. However, reports from Japan show the first buds of hope for relaxed region-encoding restrictions in the form of the Playstation 3's new Blu-Ray format. Apparently, Japan and the rest of Asia will now be bracketed in the same region as North and South America, whilst leaving us poor Europeans as the regional outcasts along with Africa.

If there's any truth to these reports then at the very least those lucky Americans will be able to import bizarre Japanese anime movies (and filth) and play them on their Playstation 3 consoles without any internal tinkering whatsoever.
Whether this convenience will extend to actual game software remains a mystery, but we'd bet money that Sony isn't quite ready to swing open the regional flood gates just yet.


Well you might be right with the CES. Sth important like announcing the PS3 will be an event for Japan ( remember the Playstation Festival 2000 ? ) or the E3...

Well, if the Japanese console will play US games, I'm happy. I will import the PS3 right away, even if it only plays Japanese games. I have a multinorm PS2 with about 100 original games : I have 16 PAL games, 28 US NTSC games and about 60 NTSC-J games, so I don't really care about PAL games tbh.
There are japanese games that will never be released/ or 6 months later outside Japan. I want those games. That's why I need a japanese console. As soon as I can play US games aswell, I can have every game I want, since there are also US/EU games that are released parallely in USA and EU, but not in Japan. And the EURO is strong atm, importing a gmame from USA/Canada is just as cheap as buying
pal games....
 
PS3 will not be region free, it's an economics factor, and part of their business model. It has nothing to do with anything other than that. If they open the doors, it potentially hurts the different markets that see staggered releases, i.e. when GT4 releases in JPN in Dec and the US in late feb, if everyone imported it, then it could siginificantly hamper the US sales, and retailers will be less inclined to purchase future versions etc. It's about business, and it won't happen. Especially not in the position sony is in.
 
tha_con
PS3 will not be region free, it's an economics factor, and part of their business model. It has nothing to do with anything other than that. If they open the doors, it potentially hurts the different markets that see staggered releases, i.e. when GT4 releases in JPN in Dec and the US in late feb, if everyone imported it, then it could siginificantly hamper the US sales, and retailers will be less inclined to purchase future versions etc. It's about business, and it won't happen. Especially not in the position sony is in.

That is the reason usually, you're right. But more and more games have a worldwide release and many also don't like playing games with japanese texts. On the other hand many people want mod chips for playing imports. Sony doesn't like those chips and if you add the fact, that BlueRay will be expensive and difficult for piracy copies, they might think about it. I also kind of doupt, that they will offer a region code free PS3, but they did it with PSP aswell ( less customers and probably less freaks, but still ). You know, not many people will import a japanese game, if there are only two months between the release.
I remember exactly one game, that caused problems : Tekken 3. But things have changed : The pal Tekken 3 was released sth like 8 months later and had no 60 Hertz mode ( = it was 20% slower and had what we call "Pal-Balken" in Germany =
the game was 16:9, but not in a good way...wow hard to describe...)let's put it that way : The German version of Tekken 3 was a late piece of cr** and peope expected it to be and that'S why they imported. Wouldn't happen the same way nowadays. That's why I think a regionfree console is realistic, if I had to bet : 50%.
 
I'd say region free console gaming has about a 90% chance of not happennig with the PS3, Tha_Con said it well, if the games are all imported, the shops won't stock Sony's products becuase no-one is going to them to buy them anyway. This can bite Sony on the arse when a game gets released for Europe only or America only and the shops turn around and say no-one buys your stuff over here. Multi-region coding as irritating as it is, ensures a stable market, it keeps the shops happy, it keeps the 3rd parties happy and it keeps 1st and 2nd parties happy.
 
Atm chips have two purposes :

- Playing imports
- playing illegal copies ( piracy )

The first thing is not illegal, so many courts say : Modchip is allowed.

If the PS3 is region code free, Sony has a better chance in the legal fight against modchips.

Ken Kutaragi and the head of Sony C. E Australia also confirmed Sony's plans.
Also HDTV is one standart, the PAL vs. NTSC thing is almost history.
You overestimate the financial losses, the average joe won't start importing, especially if he will get the same game in his language 2 months later, which is the case with 90% of the games that make it to US/Europe.
 
But the fight against mod chips isn't as important as keeping the shops ie the people that pass your products to the public happy. Importing games isn't so much the issue here either, at it's core the issue is profit, these companies can make vastly more profit, they can charge shops more to stock them, if the public has open access to these game earlier the shops won't want to offer as much for them 4 or 5 months later regardless of if people have imported or not.
 
live4speed
But the fight against mod chips isn't as important as keeping the shops ie the people that pass your products to the public happy. Importing games isn't so much the issue here either, at it's core the issue is profit, these companies can make vastly more profit, they can charge shops more to stock them, if the public has open access to these game earlier the shops won't want to offer as much for them 4 or 5 months later regardless of if people have imported or not.


The market will regulate this by its own. Why shouldn't stores put games in stock ? They want to sell games, and that's what they will do. Nothing like this ever happend to GameBoy or PSP.

For importing you normally need a credit card and normally you'll pay more than at a shop in your country. Additionally you will have to pay taxes. What do you get ? A Japanese game with japanese manual and no realistic way to return your game if necessary.
The game industry will adapt : Who will import japanese rpg's ? close to nobody. a arcadestyle beat'em up with english texts ? Yes. Wordwide release is the answer.

Maybe shops in the USA and Europe don't like region code free games, but what should they do ? Videogames are still a fast growing industry, they will go on selling them.

Don't think of freaks. I would always import games, regardless how expensive and difficult it would be. Hell I even prefer japanese versions over domestic ones because of the flair. The 10 year old schoolboy, the 25 year old casual gamer etc won't start importing for sure. There are almost no reasons anymore. The adaptions are perfect and the time difference is minimal. There are also region code Xbox games, nobody cares..

Economy is no static thing, times change and the market can easily adapt.
Piracy can be the death to industry, has happend before. Look at today's possibilities : you can download with 3 mbit/sec and more. The fight agaonst sftware piracy will be the biggest issue of the game industry in future imo.
 
Sony can give a crap about the small gaming shops. If they are hurt by no more region games, then so be it. They don't care, and why should you? Somebody else will sell the games then. Plus, the specialty game shops are not the best friends to Sony, anyway. They're more of a hindrance then a help. Most info about mod chips come from the employees of these shops. Look at whom MS mostly busted trying to mod 360s.
 
Don't certain market get break on prices when it comes to games? I bet the Chinese market ones will be super cheap. I believe U.S. marketed games are cheaper, compared to Japan and Europe. I'm not sure about Australia, but I always hear the Australian members moaning about how expensive the consoles are, so it might be the same way with the games. :lol:

Personally, I'd very very happy, if next generation of games are region-free. I do like Japanese games like Dragon Quests, so if I'm going to be able to play the new Dragon Quest IX on my American PS3, I would do a happy dance. The real question is, will it play the region coded PS1 and PS2 games? If PS3 did that, I'm buying it at launch! :sly:
 
a6m5
Don't certain market get break on prices when it comes to games? I bet the Chinese market ones will be super cheap. I believe U.S. marketed games are cheaper, compared to Japan and Europe. I'm not sure about Australia, but I always hear the Australian members moaning about how expensive the consoles are, so it might be the same way with the games. :lol:

We pay roughly double the US recomended retail for games.
 
VIPERGTSR01
We pay roughly double the US recomended retail for games.
We pay $39.99 to $49.99 for new game titles. $19.99 for games that sold more than half a million games, and it's been at least 10 months.
 
Solid Lifters
We pay $39.99 to $49.99 for new game titles. $19.99 for games that sold more than half a million games, and it's been at least 10 months.


We pay $89.95 to $99.95 for new PS2 games (can get them for $79.95 if you look in the right place).
 
Looks like that comes to about $70 USD for and game that would cost $89 AUD.
I'd never buy a new game ever if i had to pay almost $70-$80USD for games. I hardly buy them now.
 
A $45 game is around £25 here. Many games can be had for £35 or less in the UK (that'd be around $61 in the US) so it's only a slight mark-up!

But once upon a time PS One games cost £50 (some were more..I'm pretty sure I got Tekken 2 for £55)! Well, I'm expecting PS3 games to be the same price as 360 games which in the UK retail at around £39.99 - £44.99.
 
icemanshooter23
Is there a reason for such high prices?
In U.K. or Japan, I know that people have higher income, so they are probably charging accordingly. But does that mean most Australians are filthy rich?(If that's the case, I'd like to visit Jay or James' home :p).
 
a6m5
Don't certain market get break on prices when it comes to games? I bet the Chinese market ones will be super cheap. I believe U.S. marketed games are cheaper, compared to Japan and Europe. I'm not sure about Australia, but I always hear the Australian members moaning about how expensive the consoles are, so it might be the same way with the games. :lol:

Personally, I'd very very happy, if next generation of games are region-free. I do like Japanese games like Dragon Quests, so if I'm going to be able to play the new Dragon Quest IX on my American PS3, I would do a happy dance. The real question is, will it play the region coded PS1 and PS2 games? If PS3 did that, I'm buying it at launch! :sly:

That is a point yes, but I think Sony will try to prevent mass imports by local game shops etc. Not to forget taxes. You have to pay 20% tax for imported stuff here in Germany which decreases the advantage of imported games.
What is left then ? Private imports, for example from shops based in Hong Kong (playasia, lik sang etc ). Playasia offers both Chinese versions and Japanese versions. The price difference is about 10$ atm. In the end ( shipping, need of credit card, possible tax ) you end up with almost/ exact the same price as in Germany for example when you buy the Chinese version and a few dollars more if you buy the Japanese version. The average joe won't start importing, since he pays the same in order to get a game he can't easily return and which often is in a language he doesn't understand.

The price difference in Austraila is huge though. Hey, perhaps you'll get cheaper games in future, who knows. Rumors say, that Sony would only allow US PS3's to play japanese games, whereas PAL users ( EU,Australia) can't play
US/JP games.

As I stated above, probably the greatest advantage for Sony is the fact, that
they could fight against piracy more effectivly. Many courts share my personal opinion, that it is not illegal to modify your console because you want to play orginal imported games, whereas there is no reason left when you have no region code lock anymore.
 
Here in Brazil we get games at around... Oh, wait. We don't get games here (beside some PC games), we have to import them! So that would be the price of a new game in US + shipping + 60% of importing tax over the price of the game and shipping. Not very cheap.
 
Because the cost of developing new games for next gen consoles is rising that cost then gets added onto the prices of the games, other factors can cause a price increase but usually it is because of development costs....as you ca imagine all the new graphics and ai etc etc...
 
FatAssBR
Here in Brazil we get games at around... Oh, wait. We don't get games here (beside some PC games), we have to import them! So that would be the price of a new game in US + shipping + 60% of importing tax over the price of the game and shipping. Not very cheap.
I don't understand how your country can charge so much tax on "out of country purchases" when the item being purchased is not even made in your country! Talk about getting screwed... and Sony charging so much for games in Rooland, I can't believe they sell anything at all after pulling a stunt like that on you people.
 
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