PS3 just YLOD'd

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I have a 80Gb fat PS3 which had a burnt laser head which I repaired about 3 months ago and was working fine.

So, I hurried home on Wed noon with GT5 copy in my hand. Popped it in and it said update 1.01 read. Fine, go ahead and download it. It downloads, installs and restarts.

On restart, I'm greeted with disc read error xxxx. I'm pretty unhappy now. So, I power cycle the PS3 and try again. No luck. It doesn't even recognize the disc. This looks horrifyingly familiar with previous laser head burnout. I'm panicking now and tried everything. But the disc drive appears dead.

Well, nothing shall stop me from enjoying my GT5 goodness. So, just went to the store, blew $450 (high taxes here in the frozen north) bought a new PS3 move combo and been enjoying the heck out of GT5 since :lol:
 
I got YLOD on my launch 60gb a couple weeks ago.

I was able to repair the PS3 myself by purchasing some new thermal compound($9.99) at Radio Shack and borrowing a heatgun. I followed DJwhetzel's tutorial on youtube and got everything done in about 4 hours. I also used a can of compressed air to get rid of all the dust in the system.

I then bought a 160gb slim and immediately transfered my life's work from the phat.

I sold the 60gb to a friend for $150 and it is still working.

I would recommend that anyone with a phat PS3 system that is out of warranty to take it apart and blow out the dust inside. Its only a matter of time before to much dust builds up and the system overheats.
 
Wow! Lots if phat PS3's dying just before GT5 came out. I've got a 60gb launch model ad that got the YLOD last weekend. I didn't want to go down the repair route cos loads of my mates have been screwed around by that so went and got the 320gb move bundle, now I just need play.com to pull their finger out and get the game delivered which I pre-ordered months ago!!!! Hopefully will get to play this game some point this year!
 
I have a 80Gb fat PS3 which had a burnt laser head which I repaired about 3 months ago and was working fine.

On restart, I'm greeted with disc read error xxxx. I'm pretty unhappy now. So, I power cycle the PS3 and try again. No luck. It doesn't even recognize the disc. This looks horrifyingly familiar with previous laser head burnout. I'm panicking now and tried everything. But the disc drive appears dead.

Its quite well known that the fat PS3 lasers, both the single and dual lens ones are terribly unreliable and can burn out in as little as a year of usage. At the time they were designed in a terribly overcomplicated way plus the Blu Ray diodes were rushed through production as there was a shortage. Couple that with the fact that Blu Ray was a rather new technology at the time and you have a very unreliable drive. Ironic seeing as its the most important part of the system.

My first laser went after about a years use, I don't expect the second one to last long either. I don't want to be paying for a laser every year for the next 10 years! All this would be solved if they did full game installs like the 360 so you would use the drive far less. Space is no longer an issue as you can get TB drives quite cheaply.

Robin.
 
There's a problem with this game and the launch PS3's. Played this game for 4 hours yesterday. I have just over 200,000 credits, in the 4 hours of gameplay noticed the countdown before races can fail to show. Minor bugs really, I shutdown my ps3 go to thanksgiving activities, come home and PS3 locks up after the title screen. I have to eject the gt bdrom and then the system resets. Put in any other game and it loads fine.

My next troubleshoot would be to delete my save game. I have a good idea that it would load and work fine, but I have a save with 200,000 CR.
 
Doesn't sound good. Got myself the launch 60 GB PS3, no problems to this date, and i hope it stays that way, hehe.
 
Good evening all!

I am highly deligihted (not!) to say that after 3 hours of playing GT5, my launch 60gb PS3 has just YLOD'd!

Absolutely gutted. It has been well loved and cared for since launch day.

Its strange that alot of them are going on GT5. Perhaps the game is working the CPU too hard???

I dont know what to do now.

Any suggestions? Should I ring Sony in the morning or just go out and buy a Slim? Either way, it needs sorting ASAP as this will kill me!

Sam Scrapps
 
my 60gb has just got ylod playing gt5 hope my save isnt wrecked, hope i can fix it like im attempting to now. gutted!
 
Hope mine doesn't go, level 16, 23% through, bought sv and won veyron. I'd be very peeved off and would probably not play for a month or so out of frustration. Guys sorry to here about all you lot.
 
im going to buy a new one next week dont want this one breaking every 2 seconds............................... just got the dfgt as well
 
Wow, just read through this tread... sorry to hear about what happened OP.

My first phat (card reader, 4 USB's, 2006) lasted 2 years before it died. Sony said that they couldnt' fix it but offered me a new phat (this time with no card reader and 2 USB's, 2008) at a discount. And here we are 2 years later and I'm shakin in my boots. I have a feeling its gonna go at any moment. It's to a point where I'm afraid of playing! How ridiculous is that? Delaying the inevitable.

I'm at a point where I want to just get a new slim and hope that the Data Transfer Utility works in transferring the GT5 save as well. :nervous:
I'm not that far in (LV 10) so I suppose starting from scratch won't be too big of a loss. Still, its a hassle.
 
Hello all,

I can hardly believe it, but it's true. Just got to level 8, went to do the Intermediate Karting event and just as I pressed X to get into the Kart, my PS3 turned itself off. I left it a few minutes to let it cool down (not that it was particularly hot), turned it on and off at the back, and then it happened: The YLOD.

I should point out, and this will invalidate the rest of the post for a lot of people, that my PS3 was a launch 60gb. I'm fully aware that launch 60's are rare now as they all started dropping like flies, and I guess you could just put this down to old age, but some of you might like to take this as a warning.

This PS3 has not had an easy life; I bought it during my degree and I've put an obscene amount of time into various games, I've killed three dualshock 3's in the past two years alone (one due to throwing it at what I thought was a sofa but turned out to be a stone ornament, the other two due to wear), and I also played Black Ops for 31 hours in the first week of it's release, so I would have expected this to either happen sooner or just not happen... But GT5 was the final nail in the coffin. I'd been playing it from around 7.30pm until approximately 1.30pm, which, given the occasion and my usual habits, wasn't a particularly extended period of play time.

I suppose if GT5 does put too much strain on PS3's we'll find out pretty soon, but for now I'm going to attempt a YLOD fix to see if I can get the game out and back up my hard drive, then just buy a new Slim; this PS3 has totally had it and I wouldn't trust it if I do get it working again.

Great timing!

if you haven't already, please sign the petition on this forums to remove the copy protection! thanks.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=134169
 
Still running my original release phat 60GB PS3 and now I'm getting worried.. going to limit my GT5 sessions to < 1 hr and not let it get too hot :nervous:
 
My 60gb too a crap on me a year ago and I sold it to one of my friend for 100(which he still haven't fix it). Right now I have an 80gb and everytime I play gt5 or any other games I have a little fan right in front on it, it keep my ps3 cool and the bottom of it never feel hot, only cool and sometime warm
 
Still running my original release phat 60GB PS3 and now I'm getting worried.. going to limit my GT5 sessions to < 1 hr and not let it get too hot :nervous:

yeah unfortunately you have a right to be nervous..... I had the phat 60gb PS3 that also suffered the YLOD 6 months ago... had it fixed, kept it out of the cabinent (to keep it cooler), limited play to about an hour at a time... and guess what?

after finally getting my hands on GT5 thursday night... came home from work.. spent the hour and a half or so loading the game onto the HDD and during the first race in arcade it died :grumpy: (with game stuck in it and all!!!!) sigh

Anyways had to buy a new ps3 (320gb) purchased a 5 year waranty on this one.... and have spent all weekend reloading everything from profiles to GT5 to all the other PSN games i had purchased... not to mention having to dismantle the old ps3 and remove GT5... what a waste of my weekend..

Mind you time trialing Le Man track with (day/night/change of weather) makes it ALL worthwhile... truly spectacular.. you can even see the different rain pattern depending on your high/low beam... (in car view) the attention to detail in this game makes me forget about any slight graphical issues that might be there.. truly magnificent experience...

But anyway, unfortunately YLOD is unavoidable... do your best to keep it cool and you will prolong the inevitable. Good luck!
 
Can't EFFING believe it... have been playing RENTED GT5 because my collectors edition isn't here YET, the day before yesterday. I went to a trip, got back today, turned PS3 on - 40GB FAT- and during the update it just turned off. Turned it back on, again during the GT 1.02 update shut down again. I was beginning to think it was an update error until it turned off while on XMB.. and then YLOD.. WTF. And such crap ALWAYS happen on weekends... GRRRR...where the EF am I supposed to find a heat gun? :(
 
if your PS3 is old, it's better to change thermal paste. There is a chance that it's too dry to keep your console cool.
YES!
i wish i took a picture to show you guys how dry the white paste was on my launch ps3. i completely cleaned mine and put new thermal paste, let the ps3 run for 2 hours and turned it off to go to bed.

after looking at the innards, i found out my ps3 only has a 15 blade fan and im going to get a whisper fan so it actually runs quieter and cooler.

btw when you take the ps3 apart try to put the screws in order you took them out, along with the pieces that they were screwed with. didnt have trouble putting mine together, just happy i got to open it sooner and clean off dust and the dried up white thermal paste the ps3 came with. 👍
 
My PS3 YLOD'd [the second time] Good thing it was before GT5 came out and I was able to fix it!
 
Mines gone ylod 5 times now just take it apart right down to the chip board take out the battery and put it in the oven for 10 min @ 200deg let it cool re-assemble+ new thermal paste and voila works everytime. as for a slim you mentioned £250, for a tenner more you can get a 320gb+move starter pack. You just use an ethernet cable or an external hd to transfer (my local computor repair shop will loan a hd for a fiver + refundable deposit for the day), saves buying one.
 
I had YLOD twice, and both of them were caused by playing COD4 online. The game freeze during the match and YLoD followed.
 
I bought a slim 160GB PS3 just for GT5, and after reading the comments on this thread, I'm starting to worry lol. My PS3 does tend to get a bit warm while I'm playing for hours. I want to see how my PS3 will perform for the GT5 endurance races. At least the YLOD problem isn't as common as the RROD that plagues so many XB360 owners, or at least that's what I think.
 
My ps3 60gb died on thursday after hours of driving. Got it fixed by heating up the motherboard etc. Now im rather scared of playing and try to limit it.
 
OP, you said something about removing your HDD from the broken ps3...does that mean you can install it on a new ps3 and keep your GT5 save game?
 
Well, just fixed the mofo :) It's installing gt5 update as we speak. I am gonna play the hell out of it all night to see if it works as it supposed to, then put it on sale tomorrow and get a slim :)

Took it all apart, heated it (found both a heat gun and thermal paste in the middle of sunday night!) , took it back together and installing update.. I'll come back later to confirm everything is ok :)

@premhz:

Yellow Light of Death and reflow

If you are one of the unlucky sods with a PS3 suffering the infamous YLOD syndrome, you might have heard of the Gilksy reflow fix. You might even have tried it, and actually brought your PS3 back from the dead, but chances are it's living on borrowed time. Read on to learn why.

In an earlier post, I described the infamous YLOD syndrome of the PS3. To recapitulate: Sony uses lead-free solder balls as per the RoHS directive. Lead-free solder has higher melting point, but is more sensitive to thermal stresses. The RSX and the CBE chips generate a lot of heat, especially in their 90nm incarnations. The PS3 cooling solution leaves something to be desired. The PCB will warp due to the heat and can cause the solderballs of the BGAs to lose connection. This manifests as the Yellow Light of Death.

Now, the Gilksy guide advices to use a heatgun to "reflow" the BGAs. This might sound good in theory and it might even work in practice, at least for a while. But you might be aware that this kind of fix is known to be temporary, and it's quite likely that the YLOD will make a reappearance in not too long. How come?

The sad answer is that the Gilksy guide most likely never really achieves a proper reflow. What's even sadder is that with each "reflow", the problem will become even more severe. Why?

It's because in order to heat the solder, not only the solder itself is heated, but also the BGA. In fact, the heat has to traverse the chip in order to reach the solder. On top of that, in these kind of guides, the internal heat spreader of the chip is usually still mounted, meaning heat has even more resistance. On top of that, lead-free solder has higher melting points, so in fact all that might happen during this kind of "reflow" is that the PCB warps and possibly connections that were broken come together slightly. Enough to make a connection but very fragile. When the console becomes warm again, and the PCB starts to warp, it is prone to break the connections once again.

Here is the really bad part though: solder that is going through a heat cycle will actually achieve an even higher melting point! This means that if the first fix didn't properly achieve a reflow, the second time will be even less likely to work! And the third time much more. And so on. In fact, solder will deteriorate through each cycle until it needs to be replaced. Without flux this is even more severe!

What's really bad is that the higher the melting point of the solder, the higher the BGA chip itself has to be heated in order for the heat to reach the solder. These chips will be damaged if the temperature becomes too high! In fact, manufacturers usually specify a heat profile that reflow ovens can be programmed to follow. There is a reason for this profile...

What can be done about this sad state of affairs?

Well, the internal heatspreader (IHS) on the RSX is very easy to remove. I think it's quite important to say that any "reflow" should NOT be attempted with the IHS still attached to the RSX!

There is actually a second reason for this, in addition to the heat resistence: The RAM chips underneath the IHS are epoxied to it, but the RSX die just has thermal paste. Applying heat to the IHS, in order to heat the BGA in order to heat the solder, will dry out the thermal paste that's attaching the RSX die to the IHS!

The proper way to fix the YLOD is to actually remove the BGA, reball it with fresh solder (preferably leaded) and then reflow it (preferably according to the proper temperature curve.) This is far from trivial.

If the solder has become damaged by repeated high temperature cycles, excessive temperatures might be required in order to liquify it in order to remove the chip. There is also a risk of pulling out pads off the PCB when trying to remove the BGA. Actually reballing the chip is not the really difficult part, with the proper tools, but putting it back on the board properly is no easy picnic! There are so many solder balls that have to be precisely aligned. There is a difference between a low ball count small BGA (<100 solderballs) and these fat chips with 1320 balls!
 
i've heared from quite a few people they sucessfully repaired PS3s, Xbox 360s and graphicscards by taking them appart and heating the PCB in an oven at about 300 degrees celcius.

i wanted to try it with an old 8800GTS graphics card, but my oven only does 250C, thats not enough... i might try it with my friends oven soon.
 
Just wondering, for those who have suffered the YLOD, was it on a phat PS3? Certainly this problem doesn't discriminate... affects both phat and slim PS3's right?

Mine was on the first-gen phat PS3.
 
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