PS3 Rules & XBox 360 Sucks! (The Official PS3 - XBox360 Argument Thread)

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TVRKing
And how in the name of Greek buggery, do you excpect a person, who probably dosen't earn that much, to spend $2,300 on a TV? Some people I know don't even have cars worth that much.

Edit - $3,300, including the antenna.
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I don't. If you read the whole thing, and I don't blame you if you didn't, you can buy a digital ready set for very cheap.

People are stuck to the old prices of TV sets. You guys don't realize how much money has been spent on this new technology. Sorry, but the day for the 130 dollar, hi-fi stereo, cable-ready, color TV set are long gone, fellas. So, start saving your pennies now. And, if you don't want to, go ahead with watching something else.
 
Driftster
1,000 dollars? Pocket change...Let me pull out my credit car...

Hmmm

Fry's VIP...
Bashas Thank you card
Safeway Club Card...Nope
Hi-health VIP Gold card nope....
GNC Gold club card...Nope..
Benihana emperor club card...nooopeee..
AH here we go...
My little piece of plastic that with one slide will cost me 1000 dollars so I can see the the extra Arch on the Mazda logo come GT5 in 2 years....
HELL YEAH!!!
let me get 2 of those TV's
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:lol: Did you see its' size?. It's 47-inch "big"screen. They are more expensive, High Def or not.

OK. I know it's late, so let me clarify the point I've been making(for the 2nd or the 3rd time). ;) I'm not talking about the TV that cost $1,000 today. Forget today, because we don't have PS3 today. I'm talking about the HD-Ready TVs that, in about 2 years, will sell for about same prices we pay for normal TVs today. Cheap $100-200 don't count though(they are usually garbage).

Nobody said that I was wrong about me speculating the U.S. PS3 release of late 2006, so I take it everybody thinks it's pretty close. That gives us about a year and half. However, most people will not own PS3 until year or two after the release. If my calculation is correct, it'd be about 3 years from now, when PS3 will be in full swing. By then, HDTV, at least in the U.S. will be mainstream. The price will be comparable to regular TVs.
 
.....Well considering we're talking about replacing sets here..I don't know of many people that downgrade in size....

I have a 42" tv...which means when I get my HD..It's going to be 42" +....

That's what I was reffering to
 
Driftster
.....Well considering we're talking about replacing sets here..I don't know of many people that downgrade in size....

I have a 42" tv...which means when I get my HD..It's going to be 42" +....

That's what I was reffering to
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You do have a point there, but I think you'd agree that average gamers uses 27" TVs? I think most will stick with the same size TVs, because of the same reason you've been mentioning all night........ they can't afford it. :D
 
Well, like everyone else has been saying..

If you're going to buy a new TV.. You're not going to buy the same TV...
you're going to get a new and improved one, unless your old one breaks..

People buy TV's for 2 reaons...upgrading, and replacing..
People don't just buy TV's because they wanted to see what their buddy working at Best Buy was doing..

I'm not saying they'll go to 42"....
But from 27" i'd say it's safe to say they'd go to 32" maybe 35 ish
 
That could very well be the case. But if current owners of analog 27" TVs were forced to buy a new HDTV, I think a lot of them will go for same size HDTV for financial reasons. It's one of those cases, where you could be right or I could be right. Who knows! :)

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I just saw the BestBuy's Sunday Ad. They have a no-name brand's HD-Ready TV(I think it was 27") for $379. You can bet that in a couple of years, it'll be a lot lower.
 
Solid, you need to get a grip mate, it's one thing spending £300 on a PS3 to play games and DVD's ect. It's quite another to add an extra unneccisary £££'s to do the same. Most people do not have HDTV's, you can still buy TV's for £100, people are still buying TV's for £100 and since the average wage is £16k per year, around £10k after tax, people arn't all that inclinded to go and spend eaxt £££'s on a new TV just for a games console to work. If that happened then Microsoft will have already won the next gen war. I don't have a HDTV, and I earn more than the average wage, I drive a **** car too, but I don't want to be spendng £1000+ on a TV thats not needed, I have a mortgage to pay, water bills, phone bills, electricity bills ect, I'm not stingy with money, but I'm not stupid with it either. You're status isn't defined by having a HDTV or not and what you're like isn't either. If you want to believe people are stupid not getting HDTV's then I'll think the same of you. People will have HDTV's when there current ones stop working, only a few will upgrade before they need to.
 
I just wanted to come back and say what I hope to be my final thought in this thread. :lol:

The choice between PS3 and Xbox360 will come down to this...

GT5

I will not buy either system until I have learned everything possible about GT5.
If GT5 lives up to my hopes in this "post-forza" gaming world then I will buy a PS3.
However, if GT5 has the same "filler-cars" on its car list, and no customization of cars- I will buy Xbox360 and Forza2.

Kinda sucks for Sony... Their sale comes down to how well PD can learn to adapt in an ever changing world of gaming.

Point is, I'm picking my next system based on the next GT game.
If GT5 is close to as good as I hope I will buy a PS3.
If GT5 is bad I will buy an Xbox360.

I sure hope GT5 can do it! :dopey:
 
GT5 is why I know I'm getting an PS3..... unless I hear Polyphony Digital screwed it up really bad or something. Xbox isn't my cup of the tea, so that's out of the picture. I mentioned the Nintendo Revolution before, I was half serious. The low price of the "Revolution" and available Nintendo games, from the new to oldschool NES games, are big pluses. I don't remember, but if the new system plays GameCube games(discs) too, that would be another plus.

If most of the following conditions are met, I'd probably purchase the Nintendo Revolution(PS3 will follow in the future):

  • Revolution is priced at $250 or lower.
  • PS3 would be priced higher than $350.
  • P.D. delays the release of GT5.
  • Revolution receives strong 3rd party support.
  • Revolution controller looks better than the PS3 banana boomerang controller. :sly: j/k
 
I'm less bothered about GT5. I had hoped the sereis would be further along by now than it is. I'm buying the system that has the most games I want, if all the PS3 ends up with is GT5 and MGS4 I'll get the 360 since MGS4 will appear on that as well as Forza 2 and Forza is already trying things GT didn't in it's first generation, the second should be better.
 
Heh, well I see what has happened in this topic over the past few pages. We have two distinct issues at hand--what people want, and what Solid Lifters thinks people should want. He feels he has more money, more wisdom, and more industry insight that all you commoners, and he's having a ball tweaking your noses and watching your outraged reactions! :lol:

That's my preface. Now my rejoinder.

Lifters, aside from what you feel is a superior economic standing and philosophy on same, you have little in this argument with legs. The key points you espouse are based upon a flawed model of consumer economics--namely, that lower classes are in any way obliged to keep up with higher classes for the advancement of the whole. Non-HD compatible consoles and the sets to support them are going to be around for years to come precisely because the market is there. I do understand what you're on about; I just think you'd find more success in leaving out the gratuitous rodomontade and not talking down to the same people you are trying to explain yourself to.

Oh, and if you can explain how the world would be a better place by completely cutting off the less technologically enfranchised from the cutting-most edge out there... well, that would be a bonus. ;)

Your go sport. Time for my walk.

-GNJ-
 
live4speed
I'm less bothered about GT5. I had hoped the sereis would be further along by now than it is. I'm buying the system that has the most games I want, if all the PS3 ends up with is GT5 and MGS4 I'll get the 360 since MGS4 will appear on that as well as Forza 2 and Forza is already trying things GT didn't in it's first generation, the second should be better.
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Metal Gear Solid 4. Word!

Although there's a good chance I'll buy GT5. I plan on using the PS3 as my first Blu-ray driver, than anything else at first. When I got my PS2 on launch day, I bought one game, one memory card and ten movies. I plan to do the same thing with my PS3. But, this time, I don't see myself standing in line, in the rain, for over 12 hours to get one.
 
Solid Lifters
But, this time, I don't see myself standing in line, in the rain, for over 12 hours to get one.
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Have you ever heard of preorder? ;)
 
GuyNamedJohn
Heh, well I see what has happened in this topic over the past few pages. We have two distinct issues at hand--what people want, and what Solid Lifters thinks people should want. He feels he has more money, more wisdom, and more industry insight that all you commoners, and he's having a ball tweaking your noses and watching your outraged reactions! :lol:

That's my preface. Now my rejoinder.

Lifters, aside from what you feel is a superior economic standing and philosophy on same, you have little in this argument with legs. The key points you espouse are based upon a flawed model of consumer economics--namely, that lower classes are in any way obliged to keep up with higher classes for the advancement of the whole. Non-HD compatible consoles and the sets to support them are going to be around for years to come precisely because the market is there. I do understand what you're on about; I just think you'd find more success in leaving out the gratuitous rodomontade and not talking down to the same people you are trying to explain yourself to.

Oh, and if you can explain how the world would be a better place by completely cutting off the less technologically enfranchised from the cutting-most edge out there... well, that would be a bonus. ;)

Your go sport. Time for my walk.

-GNJ-
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I know what I want. Better HDTV broadcast quality, stronger broadcast signals, more HDTV broadcasts, better HDTV broadcast support, etc. All of this is at a snail's pace because people in NA and Europe fail to support the new technology that has been around for over a dozen years now. Enough of the stalling, already, and let's get this done.

No more devices, other than VHS machines, that are non-digital TV compatible, except for digital tuners, should be sold to the public, so when can finally have the new TV technology that the world should have had five years ago. Like I said, people hate change, and being this aggresive is by no means abrupt. You've had enough time to prepare.
 
a6m5
Have you ever heard of preorder? ;)
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They don't pre-order the consoles here in SoCal. There are a few "private" stores that do. Those that do, sell it for more money to somebody else, anyway. So, what's the point?

Circuit City, Best Buy, Sears, Wal Mart, etc. all weren't taking pre-orders for the PS2. Believe me, I tried. The only thing they would do was take your name and number and they would call you when they got some in. I gave my name and number to all those who would take it, and I never once got a call.

I don't trust those internet game companies. They're selling pre-orders for GT5 already. Come on, you gotta see the BS in that! They'll take your deposit, and say you'll be getting one at launch, but you usually wont.

Just curious, who's taking pre-orders for the PS3?
 
Solid Lifters
They don't pre-order the consoles here in SoCal. There are a few "private" stores that do. Those that do, sell it for more money to somebody else, anyway. So, what's the point?

Circuit City, Best Buy, Sears, Wal Mart, etc. all weren't taking pre-orders for the PS2. Believe me, I tried. The only thing they would do was take your name and number and they would call you when they got some in. I gave my name and number to all those who would take it, and I never once got a call.

I don't trust those internet game companies. They're selling pre-orders for GT5 already. Come on, you gotta see the BS in that! They'll take your deposit, and say you'll be getting one at launch, but you usually wont.

Just curious, who's taking pre-orders for the PS3?
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I belive one of my friends from back when preordered his at EBX. He kept his, and so did most other guys I knew. Do you remember the bidding wars on eBay? New ones were going for $800 to over $1,000 at one point! :lol: I'd have sold it.
 
a6m5
I belive one of my friends from back when preordered his at EBX. He kept his, and so did most other guys I knew. Do you remember the bidding wars on eBay? New ones were going for $800 to over $1,000 at one point! :lol: I'd have sold it.
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Believe me, I was very tempted to sell mine too. The only decent games were Madden 2001, and SX (something), but that was a snowboard game and I hate snowboard games.

But, I had movies on DVD that my son liked to watch over and over, and decided not to sell it. I saw local ads in the paper selling the PS2 for 1,200 bucks! Even my mom called me up a few times, "Oh, they're selling the PS2 now for 900 dollars!" etc.
 
I'm buying a Ps3 and probably a Revolution as well. I know for a fact that there will be 3 xbox360s within walking distance from my house. my friends in the neighborhood are all extreme xbox fanboys.

The revolution is pretty, and i miss all the nintendo characters that brought me so much joy.
 
i'm still thinking about it, id love to have an xbox360, but xbox is made by the same b****** that made windows, and beaceas of windows, my laptop hardly ever boots correctly anymore.
i dont have very good luck with windows, which means i dont have very good luck with microsoft, and if i get a microsoft xbox, illl prolly boot it with a Bsod or some stupid critical eror message.
 
I'm gonna pre-order a PS3 and if the chance of selling it for a higher cost arrives I'll sell it and buy another one a month r so later.
 
Imagine a Furby running with a Cell chip.... Anyone who now owns a firearm would now be more willing than ever to use them. lol

Hopefully this new Cell chip will actually function right. I'm sure they've worked out most of the bugs but since it is more or less "new technology" I imagine it having problems such as overheating what with 8 or so 3.2ghz cores. lol But then again, the Xbox 360 has got all of one chip running a similiar speed?? One?? Way to stay competitive Microsoft.
 
RedWolfRacer
Imagine a Furby running with a Cell chip.... Anyone who now owns a firearm would now be more willing than ever to use them. lol

Hopefully this new Cell chip will actually function right. I'm sure they've worked out most of the bugs but since it is more or less "new technology" I imagine it having problems such as overheating what with 8 or so 3.2ghz cores. lol But then again, the Xbox 360 has got all of one chip running a similiar speed?? One?? Way to stay competitive Microsoft.
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Why would it overheat? It's got 7 extra cores to help the load.
 
C-news has polled 1000 Japanese Internet users regarding to the next generation consoles:

Which next generation console are you looking forward the most?
60% - PlayStation 3
8% - Revolution
2% - Xbox 360
30% - Not interested

Why do you choose PlayStation 3?

-It is a successor of PlayStation 2
-It will have more software
-It is a Sony product
-Realistic graphics
-PS3 is the most powerful
-PS3 has a lot of new technologies (Blu-Ray, etc)

What do you most wanted to play on the new consoles?

80% - Well-known game series (Dragon Quest, Super Mario, etc)
60% - Original / completely new games
35% - Remakes of well-known titles or sequels

How much will you pay for the PlayStation 3?

20%: 15000 - 20000 yen
20%: 20000 - 25000 yen
20%: 25000 - 30000 yen

What game genres would you like to see on next generation consoles?

71.2% - Role Playing
52.8% - Simulation
47.9% - Action
41.1% - Adventure
23.4% - Shooting

Now who said Sony is going to get their *** handed to them by MS?
 
thats typical of the Japanese market though, they disslike the X-Box over there and they love home grown products. That said I'm suprised more didn't vote for the Revolution, I bet that will deliver some of the most entertaining gaming out of the three.
 

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