Question about "Infraction" points...

[Small_Fryz]

If i want to swear i just use this 🤬 when in a sentace you can use your imagination as to what swear word fits best

 

[Taurine]

You all remember Demolition Man right?

'You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.'

 

[Pupik]

I see a lot more bannings in store, if my time at GTP is anything to go by.

 

[GT4_Rule]

I'm a bit worried about this thing, looking at how things are turning out...

 

[xXSilencerXx]

And for the record, the Johhny Dangerously rule can be applied. If anybody is old enough to remember that movie, it was a PG-rated comedy about Chicago gangsters. One of the characters swore continually throughout the movie, but it was always something like "You farging iceholes! Bastiches!" So the tone of the message was clear but the profanity was humourously de-emphasized.

I've never seen the movie but my dad quotes that all the time to replace the words my mom dosen't paticularly like. I've picked it up too.


In fact I've used the word bastige on here before. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=84374

This may be self incriminating but I don't care cuz I want to clean my language up some anyway.

 

[Der Alta]

I see a lot more bannings in store, if my time at GTP is anything to go by.

Not really, as the increase in bannings is also related to more active people on the site. As GTP grows, the amount of infractions and bannings will stay a consistent percentage, but also appear to grow.

I'm a bit worried about this thing, looking at how things are turning out...

What you're seeing is people more aware of how GTP works. Many of the new features were already in place here at GTP. It just was a more manual system that happened. Now that vB has caught up to the theories that GTP already had active, it is more transparent.

Here is the easiest thing to remember should you worry about your own posting MO: Does it violate the AUP?

 

[guska]

Now that vB has caught up to the theories that GTP already had active, it is more transparent.

I personally feel that more transparency in regards to the administration and moderation practices can only be a good thing, as it helps keep everyone aware of their obligations, and the consequences for not living up to them.

Here is the easiest thing to remember should you worry about your own posting MO: Does it violate the AUP?

This is one that I learnt the hard way, I have found myself closing the reply box more often that I click post reply lately, as i re-read the post, and think to myself "no, that's just crap!".

 

[Scaff]

I have to re-enforce what has been said by the rest of the staff on this matter, its not as if its that difficult to follow at all.

We all have the ability to preview our posts, and a huge number of possiable AUP violations can be picked up this way. Simply spending a second reviewing the preview before posting will help put up spelling errors and highlight any words covered by the swear filter. All you have to do is then edit before posting.

This also offers you a chance to be sure of what you have written and that you actually want to say it. Personally I also read my post once its up to double check for any errors and edit it ASAP if needed.

On the subject of the swear filter and swearing itself, I'm quite sure that many of you may picture me as a puritan with a massive issue on foul language.

In truth nothing could be further from the truth, when in the right situation I am more than happy to resort to 'anglo-saxon' terms, however in a situation that youngsters could be present or anyone who may take offence I do not swear, nor do I think it right to do so.

Here at GTPlanet we have no real idea of exactly who could be viewing and what the reaction could be, so I consider it a situation in which foul language is not suitable.

In a similar vein, I commonly 'take the Lord's name in vain', as I'm not religous its simply a form of expression for me. However I know that Swift finds this to be offensive, so regardless of my views on the subject I refrain from posting in that manner. Now this would not strictly speaking be an AUP violation, the reason I refrain is out of respect for Swift.

Remember we have no idea how old out youngest 'readers' are, nor if parents are looking at the site with them. All it takes is one parent outraged at a post containing abusive language and GT Planet could have big problems (I have seen sites in the UK run into problems for far more innocent comments).

I'm quite sure that we all want to see GT Planet grow and develop, well lets all help ensure it does that. However anyone who consistently violates the AUP is not going to help that happen, lets be honest you have to work very hard to get a ban from a single offence here - three is the norm - and if you can't learn by that point then I have to ask the question 'why did you agree to an AUP you have no intention of following?

Regards

Scaff

 

[Super T]

On the subject of the swear filter and swearing itself, I'm quite sure that many of you may picture me as a puritan with a massive issue on foul language.

In truth nothing could be further from the truth, when in the right situation I am more than happy to resort to 'anglo-saxon' terms, however in a situation that youngsters could be present or anyone who may take offence I do not swear, nor do I think it right to do so.

Here at GTPlanet we have no real idea of exactly who could be viewing and what the reaction could be, so I consider it a situation in which foul language is not suitable.

Me too.....I started my working life as an apprentice mechanic a few years ago and subsequently developed a rather colourful grasp of the 'anglo-saxon' dialect.

In everyday conversation though, as Scaff rightly points out, you never know who's listening/reading so I keep my language in check (unless my car bites back while I'm working on it, then it's probably best to stick your fingers in your ears and run for cover. ).

My thirteen year old son, who also happens to be a member on GTP, could probably teach us lot a few words that would violate the AUP but he's not...

a; stupid enough to repeat them in front of me or anyone who'd tell me he's using them.

or...

b; dumb enough to think he'd get away with posting them on here when there's a whole army of mods ready to ban him for doing so.

Maybe it's the fact that I care about what he's reading and typing so spend alot of time with both my kids when they're using the computer but GTP's one of the few places I'm 99% certain he's not going to be doing anything I wouldn't want him to.

Keep up the good work guys.....I know mods can get alot of flak sometimes but you wont get any arguments from me. 👍


Invoices/bills for childcare will not be accepted form any GTP moderators.

 

[Dave A]

I think you'll find most people are like that, the way they talk is influenced by who they're with.

Going onto the subject of this site, it wouldn't supprise me if there were a few longer term members taking liberites, thinking because they know the mods better than that guy who just joined that they'll get away with it more. While in the case of sarcasm and humour it's true to the degree that they and other long term members will generally get what you mean better and respond likewise. But it doesn't mean the rules bend for you, so what you do say be it a sly or witty retort or an in joke, it has to remain within the AUP. Ofcourse members will slip the odd thing out every now and then, I know I have, especially when I was a newer member, but it's weather it's the odd slipup, or regular that makes the difference. And if it is regular do you carry on just as after you've been asked to stop.

I like cosmic as amember, he's a pretty sound guy. I didn't really notice the problem until after it was pointed out and I had a look over a load of his posts so I was a littel supprised to see "banned" under his username at first. The problem really though is when you get that pm from a mod telling you to cut it out, and you don't do anything about it. I'm glad for his sake it was only a 5 day ban. If anything that should tell you what type of moderating team this site has, they've given him the warning shot so to speak, and hopefully cosmic will do enough to get back in without the hiccups anymore. cosmic isn't the only member they've done that for.

 

[Casio]

At the same time. Do we have to accept what is become acceptable in society now? 50 years ago any school student saying the word starting with F would get 50 beatings, say it now, you get nothing more then a look.

Even 15 years ago, anything in the media that contained 'F' had a 'strong language warning', now it might have mild. Because society has accepted it into the acceptable lexicon. Personally, I think unless it's used against someone that it's lost all it's harshness and is just another adjective.

I bring this up because today I posted a post containing the 's--t' word. And I couldn't believe it was censored, it's a word that's every 6 year olds vocabulary. That word has long evolved from being a serious 'swear' word, and means exactly the same thing as 'crap', a word that isn't censored.

 

[Kylehnat]

I bring this up because today I posted a post containing the 's--t' word. And I couldn't believe it was censored, it's a word that's every 6 year olds vocabulary. That word has long evolved from being a serious 'swear' word, and means exactly the same thing as 'crap', a word that isn't censored.

You know, sometimes when I'm out and about, I would like nothing more than to take a leak on the side of a building. This is in no way an un-natural act. It certainly doesn't hurt a single person, and surely anyone who sees me realizes that people must take a whiz now and again. Even six year-olds understand and embrace the concept of urination. Why then, do cops harrass me to no end for this harmless act? Because the second I step out the door and into public, I agree to a set of rules; a policy outlining the acceptable use of public land. One of those rules suggests that nobody should have to see me draining my lizard into a dumpster behind Taco del Mar, no matter how natural an act it is. I don't quite comprehend this rule, as taking a pee has worked its way into mainstream culture, and I know many people who would not find my bodily excretion offensive in any way. Nevertheless, in order to avoid being hassled by The Man, I just cede the issue, and keep the fire hose in the station while I'm outside. Hey, I can just urinate all over my living room when I get home. What I do in the privacy of my own home is not bound by that policy of acceptable use that governs the outside world.

Sorry for the off-topic post.

 

[Scaff]

Even 15 years ago, anything in the media that contained 'F' had a 'strong language warning', now it might have mild. Because society has accepted it into the acceptable lexicon. Personally, I think unless it's used against someone that it's lost all it's harshness and is just another adjective.

As the parent of childeren aged between 6 and 13 I would strongly disagree with on this one, a word of that nature coming out of the mouth of a six year old is far from just another adjective and very harsh.

That does however get away from part of the point here, GT Planet is a site with its own ground rules and, as a member, you can either follow them or not. However should you take the latter option then please do not expect to foloow them for long.

In regard to the two words in your last paragraph, well the first is covered by the swear filter for rather obvious reasons. The second may well not be covered as to many it does not have the same 'impact'.

Now this may sound like its rather an arbatary system, and to be honest it is, what one person considers to be offensive may not be to another. However that leaves two choices, the first is a free for all allowing all swearing to be used, the second is an imperfect system that attempts to keep swearing in check.

The first is quite simply not an option here, which only leaves us with the second.

Now the English language is a very rich and varied thing, and while what language we use at home is our business, GT Planet is not 'our' home and 'our' rules do not apply here. GT Planets rules do, and UI would be very surprised if you would walk into someone elses home and just start swearing.

Is it really so hard to find an alternative word? After all the swear filter does help you out here, you may not like the logic of it, but as I said its never going to be perfect.

Regards

Scaff

 

[Jordan]

Let me help you guys out by clarifying a few things regarding my rules on profanity here. There is no set moral compass which I'm using to select the words, nor am I trying to "protect" our younger visitors from profanity. The reasoning is a little more complicated, but I think you'll understand once I explain. My goal here is to create an intelligent, mature community full of good information, good friends, and good fun. Swearing does nothing to promote any of those goals, and could drive away potential long-term, loyal users who could contribute years of great posts to the community. That's not a gamble I'm willing to take.

Second of all, I really don't enjoy reading the ramblings of a 14 year old who tries to increase the "impact" of his online postings by swearing. In my opinion, it's just lame and my time is far too valuable to waste it reading garbage. With the primary topic and age group of our site, you can see how quickly things could deteriorate if swearing was left unchecked. Cursing does nothing to promote a positive atmosphere anywhere it is used, especially not an online forum.