Question: Who Owns The Copyright

[roop298]

I've printed out loads of images of the races I've been in using the photo mode. And I've flogged a few to freinds of mine.
Who owns the copywright of the images I've taken? Me or the makers of GT4?

 

[Vonie]

You see those words down in the corner of the shot?
Yeah.

 

[roop298]

You see those words down in the corner of the shot?
Yeah.

Not on mine you don't.

 

[ekmatt9]

On the bottom right corner. It's them, unless you crop the picture or reisze, etc. It's there. It's GT4's.

 

[440cuda9sec]

PD owns the game, the pics, and your ass if you keep sharing pics. No i'm just kidding, hell, we post em on the internet, leaving it at the will of the viewer to print out, so its PD who owns the rights to it, but its not like its going to put you in a situation of being sued or anything.

 

[niky]

Not really. PD owns the rights to the game, but that's just the tool you use to take the picture. If you take a picture with a Nikon or a Canon, that doesn't automatically make it their picture. Similarly, if you take a picture of a Ferrari, that doesn't make it their picture either. It's yours, if you choose to copyright or reserve the rights to the image.

You DO have to credit game screenshots, though, and their sources.

That's how magazines can print pictures of cars and video games without going through the whole legalistic rigamarole. And that's how they get spy shots of cars. If you see it and can take its picture, it's public domain... unless you've signed a secrecy contract with the car company in exchange for rights to the story.

 

[440cuda9sec]

i reckon we take pictures using PD software, automatically giving us responsiblity to credit them, they don't have the rights to that picture, so is it clear enough for ya.?

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Its ours and PD's to share.
I don't think PD could be in the position to sue you at all though.

 

[roop298]

I think Niky is closest to my own opinion. Well actually I agree entirely with everything he says. So it must be okay then. Either that or we are both in the slammer, mate!

 

[niky]

I worked as a layout artist and designer in high school and college. From what I remember, if you use the software, you are only liable IF the software is pirated. Otherwise, you own the rights to your own design. Same can be said of photography. As long as you're not using a car manufacturer's image to sell something without their consent, there's no problem.

Hell, some cars are used in advertising without consent anyway... but as long as the brand name and logos are not prominent, manufacturers can't go after them.

 

[ving]

take a pic with a canon EOS 350D and canon does not own the copyright on the picture, you do.... take a pic using a PS2 and GT4, you own the pic.
simple

 

[franz]

As long as you're not using a car manufacturer's image to sell something without their consent, there's no problem

Let's say I took a photo of a M3. Then I print this photo as a poster and sell it online. If I want to put BMW logo, or "BMW" text, or "M3" text on the poster, do I have to give them a consent? what happens if the car itself already contains the logo, do I still own the rights of the photo?

 

[Dave A]

Not really. PD owns the rights to the game, but that's just the tool you use to take the picture. If you take a picture with a Nikon or a Canon, that doesn't automatically make it their picture. Similarly, if you take a picture of a Ferrari, that doesn't make it their picture either. It's yours, if you choose to copyright or reserve the rights to the image.

You DO have to credit game screenshots, though, and their sources.

That's how magazines can print pictures of cars and video games without going through the whole legalistic rigamarole. And that's how they get spy shots of cars. If you see it and can take its picture, it's public domain... unless you've signed a secrecy contract with the car company in exchange for rights to the story.

Not true, if you take a photo of a Ferrari in the street, that fine, you cannot make a profit from that picture and you cannot copywright that picture without Ferrari's permission first. You can only take a picture of something that isn't already copywrigthed and copywright it or sell it without permission first. The same applies to GT's photomode though you'd preobably need the manufacturer's permission AND Polyphony Digital's since it's their software being used to create the picture.

Magazines can print pictures of cars for a number of reasons, the primary one being that they don't profit from the pictures themselves. Believe me if someone started selling GT4 photomode pics and PD heard about it there WOULD be a law suit on it's way, the manufacturers of any and all cars in thoes pics would also have the right to take leal action as well.

When profit's involved it all changes and the people that hold the copywrights will want in on it and are entitled to be and it would be according to their terms, not yours.