Rebecca Black....Music 

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Grammy-nominee there. :lol:
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Just made that one. :lol:
Love it! :lol:
 
I usually don't buy into the crap that is said about videos like this until I've seen it for myself but goodness gracious is this terrible. I'm all for encouraging children to follow dreams and all that but the people that encouraged this should be flogged.

Oh, and:

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I'm all for encouraging children to follow dreams and all that but the people that encouraged this should be flogged.
It's an interesting entrepeneurial setup that they have going. For $2000, they will write and produce a song for your child, and make a music video to go with it. The idea is that it's a cheap way for a talented young person to get their foot in the door with a professionally-made recording package. It's not a vanity project - though some will treat it that way - but intended as a legitimate route into the recording industry. But I've heard some of the other "songs" they've produced, and the problem is that every last one is wired up with auto-tune. And not only is it really obvious when you use auto-tune, but it makes it really difficult to identify talent because it can make anyone sound good.
 
It's an interesting entrepeneurial setup that they have going. For $2000, they will write and produce a song for your child, and make a music video to go with it. The idea is that it's a cheap way for a talented young person to get their foot in the door with a professionally-made recording package. It's not a vanity project - though some will treat it that way - but intended as a legitimate route into the recording industry. But I've heard some of the other "songs" they've produced, and the problem is that every last one is wired up with auto-tune. And not only is it really obvious when you use auto-tune, but it makes it really difficult to identify talent because it can make anyone sound good.

Wasn't that in South Park?
 
I have no idea. I don't watch South Park. But this is actually what Black's producers do. They call themselves ARK Music Factory, and they work with people between the ages of 13 and 17 (although they only seem to work with girls) to try and get them into the mainstream music industry.

And to give you a better idea of their sheer inability as songwriters, here's the lyrics to Friday.
 
3 minutes 48 seconds of utter garbage, I don't understand how something like that can be so popular...it took quite a lot of effort to keep the expletives out of that.
 


The lyrics at 1:10... what exactly did he just say?

This remix is lyrically worse than the original song.

It's an interesting entrepeneurial setup that they have going. For $2000, they will write and produce a song for your child, and make a music video to go with it. The idea is that it's a cheap way for a talented young person to get their foot in the door with a professionally-made recording package.
It's a good way to try and make money when you aren't good enough as a management/production company to actually try and make money the "hard" way.

It's not a vanity project - though some will treat it that way - but intended as a legitimate route into the recording industry.

This is a vanity project because there are only two legitimate routes to the industry. Luck and talent. You cannot simply buy your way up.
Although in this example luck has fallen into place.
But I've heard some of the other "songs" they've produced, and the problem is that every last one is wired up with auto-tune. And not only is it really obvious when you use auto-tune, but it makes it really difficult to identify talent because it can make anyone sound good.

It makes everyone sound fake. I can pick it out on the first word it's used on, no matter how subtle it is.
The only reason they still use it is because some producers think the trend hasn't died.



Though I will update that I said "the song is on iTunes and no one has bought it"

It's in the top 20 on the iTunes chart

I think this says more about music consumers than the music industry though, especially after looking through what else is in the top 20.
 
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The lyrics at 1:10... what exactly did he just say?

This remix is lyrically worse than the original song.

Rubber band Charlie Sheen? The 🤬?
 
This is a vanity project because there are only two legitimate routes to the industry. Luck and talent. You cannot simply buy your way up.
Who said they were buying their way into the industry? One of the most direct ways to use talent to get into the recording business is to make a demo tape and to try and get producers to listen to it. This simply takes the concept of a demo tape to a new level by having it professionally done and getting someone to help you promote yourself. There are some who will pay the $2000 for the novelty of having their kid singing with a music video, and others with misguided impressions that they can actually sing, but at its heart, the idea is little more than a glorified demo tape. Having heard several of the songs these people have to produce, I'd have to say they've gone about it in entirely the wrong way, and all of them have little to no redeeming value, but if the concept itself had been applied correctly, then I think it would have been a good idea. There are plenty of good acts out there who can't break into the industry; an organisation that offered them an affordable and professional recording package to promote themselves could be just the thing they need.
 
Her awkward friend seems cool



I dunno if she has enough make up on. Unless her checks are naturally so red I can notice through the terrible white balance...

Kids these days, in such a hurry to grow up. Tsk tsk.

And interludes, this entire thing is a vanity project.
 
Who said they were buying their way into the industry? One of the most direct ways to use talent to get into the recording business is to make a demo tape and to try and get producers to listen to it. This simply takes the concept of a demo tape to a new level by having it professionally done and getting someone to help you promote yourself. There are some who will pay the $2000 for the novelty of having their kid singing with a music video, and others with misguided impressions that they can actually sing, but at its heart, the idea is little more than a glorified demo tape. Having heard several of the songs these people have to produce, I'd have to say they've gone about it in entirely the wrong way, and all of them have little to no redeeming value, but if the concept itself had been applied correctly, then I think it would have been a good idea. There are plenty of good acts out there who can't break into the industry; an organisation that offered them an affordable and professional recording package to promote themselves could be just the thing they need.

So wait, are you saying this is a demo tape or a vanity project?
Your post doesn't seem to pick a side. You're saying it's a demo tape but they've gone about it the wrong way resulting in a vanity project.


$2000 is not "affordable" for the average unsigned musician.

Studio I work at charges $35/hr base rate. That's affordable. And you get exactly what you do yourself.
Engineer is there to push the "record" and "stop" buttons on command, everything else is on you.
THAT is a demo tape. You use THAT to promote yourself, maybe get signed to a label and then re-record the thing with a huge budget, get a video shot, etc.

You don't show up with a professionally shot video and say "here's my demo!"
Ark Music Factory is it's own label. I'm sure their contract is "we own your soul if you sign this paper."

I'm not sure what a fully mixed/mastered ground-up production would run, but I'm sure it's well over $2000, for a "Z100 ready" pop-track. Unless you're the producer that shouldn't be your demo, that should be your final sell-able recording.
 
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So wait, are you saying this is a demo tape or a vanity project?
Your post doesn't seem to pick a side. You're saying it's a demo tape but they've gone about it the wrong way resulting in a vanity project.
A little bit of both. It appears that the idea was originally intended as a demo tape, and for all intents and purposes, it is - but some people who sign up to it will use it as a vanity project.

$2000 is not "affordable" for the average unsigned musician.
But it's more than just a recording. The video is probably the most expensive part to make, and the idea behind it is to not simply produce a high-quality production (ignoring the arguments that anything using auto-tune cannot be considered quality), but to get an artist into regular rotation with a music video and radio play. More exposure equals a better chance of getting noticed.
 
A little bit of both. It appears that the idea was originally intended as a demo tape, and for all intents and purposes, it is - but some people who sign up to it will use it as a vanity project.

As I said in the same post, they're a label. You pay them money, they give you a contract.

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Sorry, but there is any amount of generic manufactured ****, along with musically inept 'dubstep' ****, not to mention most of the metal in the charts and most 'I take myself to seriously then ***** when I got shot' hip-hop/rap on the radio these days.. that this is not that offensive to me.. I don't like it, but most acts in the charts these days dont deserve the waste products generated by my body.... and they earn big money, and think they are a big deal... this, IMO, does not take itself seriously, doesn't generate massive money for people prepared to flood the market with **** music... and therefore, though I'm not a fan... it does not offend me.

... also, I like the fact the she could probably beat Beiber in a fight.
 
I hate this thread. Without it I could have been spared from finding out who rebecca black is and would have avoided that terrible excuse of chundering music.
 
and they earn big money, and think they are a big deal...

Tell people stop buying it and then they won't make any money, thus end the crisis.

Everyone agrees music today is crap. There's only one way to fix it and it starts with the people who pay for it.

Except no one actually pays for it, everyone is guilty of downloading an MP3, or several thousand.

It's the people with the worst taste in music, who do pay for it. The industry is driven by money. They go where they can get it. If everyone were buying Dream Theater albums we'd have a bunch of manufactured Dream Theater knockoff bands.

If everyone were buying Polka, we'd have a bunch of polka bands on the radio.

Complaining about how music currently is doesn't solve the issue, of how music currently is.

I don't know what would solve it, but if you figure it out, tell me.
 
I hate this thread. Without it I could have been spared from finding out who rebecca black is and would have avoided that terrible excuse of chundering music.

But....but...but...but....which seat will you take?

And you gotta look forward to the weekend because you have to get down on Friday.
 
Stupid song was in my head all night last night, and no matter what song I tried to sing over it, it wouldn't get out. I was almost ready to blow my head off.
 
Stupid song was in my head all night last night, and no matter what song I tried to sing over it, it wouldn't get out. I was almost ready to blow my head off.

At least you wouldn't have the song stuck in your head and then midway through, Justin's song pops up for no apparent reason. :odd:
 
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