RedBull X1

[Jyazz21]

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[SpookyVenom1]

It is very hard, but it is possible to get bronze with a controller, I know I managed to do it. But for silver and gold, you really need a wheel to get those times, and even then, its still very hard to get silver with the wheel.

The X1 only feels hard to drive in the challenge, when you get your own X1, the car doesnt feel as difficult to drive and over-lapping even leMan prototypes in just a couple laps is good for a laugh with this car.

 

[AMCNUT]

Not having driven the X2010, I can't comment on how it drives, but I don't like it for one fact, and one alone;

If I'm on the Marketplace section of the site at least 50% of ALL threads mention X1 or X2010 or something like that. It makes it IMPOSSIBLY annoying when casually browsing what else is on offer! I was looking for a Jaguar XJR-9 earlier and my eyes kept mistaking the 'X' from the X2010 for the 'X' in XJR-9... SO annoying!

A little thing I suppose, but if I wanted an X2010 I'll find you... I don't need to be bombarded by a million different ads for it when I'm browsing.

Anyone else feel the same way?

 

[leb111]

Anyone bought the Chassis reinforcement for the 2010x ?

I noticed its the only thing we can buy,

 

[cicohipe]

I tried the first part of the Ferrari Virtual Academy, the one on Fiorano test and don't remember it being super strong. I gave up quickly though as I was doing times near about the 58s and 59s mark and then looked at people doing 56s and I thought I had no chance of doing those times. Maybe getting close to Massa and beating him but it got boring quickly. I also found it very easy to spin on curbs when you put your front wheel on it which I found unrealistic from what I've seen of real life F1 and other sims.

Then it's your steering wheel, not the game, the FFB in FVA is extreme to say the least.

I agree with you though, I played it at the same time as F1 2010, and although F1 2010 isn't exactly the most realistic simulator, it was a hell of a lot more fun then the Virtual academy.

 

[MADCAP]

bronze is possible, took me good 2 hours to do the events ovr and over, but best tip is do one at a time till you get bronze, id like to do them all again to get silver and gold but i am glad i got bronze and have my very own X2010

 

[eVilate]

Driving the X1 didn't ruin other cars for me and I still use other cars. I do love the X1 though. I know some people feel that using the X1 in races is basically cheating but for me, they way I see it, I am going to win anyway so I race to improve my driving. I pretty much always race now to try and beat my best lap times and that's why I love the X1. It can put out some extremely fast lap times but it's not easy to do so. It requires a lot of concentration because just 1 minor slip up can cost you a lot of time. At first the X1 is quite hard to control but over time you get used to it and learn it's limits (yes it has limits lol, even if that limit includes flying).

When I first did monza for instance, it took me hours simply because I kept slipping up. Now however I can do monza bronze lap times easily every time.

 

[BETOGTR]

As with everything in life the practice makes the master , of course is hard to get the hang on it at first but it only takes a couple of races to start getting the hang of it
I only use it occasionally but bob lives in it !!

 

[GT Motion]

While its a great and fun idea, I don't think the X1 should be allowed online, or to be used for races. Its not a car that any human can drive, so why are we driving it?

 

[jpressley101]

Although I haven't actually driven the car myself, It seems like a perfect way to ruin the game. I could be wrong, but it must suck to go back to your older cars after getting your mind blown. I can't deny that it is a marvel, and, given the chance, I would buy it hands down. Nice ride to put bob in for those awful B-spec races.

 

[recca]

I love the X1 now.....

When i first started driving it with the DS3 i honestly thought it was impossible. After afew hours i masted Monza and bronze was always going to happen. Then the Nurburgring took 4 hours and i thought i'd really got the hang of it but then came Suzuka I gave up after afew hours and left it afew days to try again, then gave up again and decided to lvl b-spec to 35. Realised that was going to take to long so i had another bash, kept myself calm and i began to get the hang of it. After hours i finally managed bronze, i was so chuffed.

Since i've owned one i took it to the high speed ring where i could really get a feel for the car and not worry about crashing. Slowly but surely i began to really control this thing and it feels great when you get it right. Now i can lap the n'ring in under 3,40 minutes.

It amazing how our brains adapt and learn in such a short time, Its easily the hardest challenge i've ever had to do on a computer game and it feels great once accomplished. Managed all 3 golds now using the DS3

so it is doable on DS3, good job on your part mate I can't wait to get my hands on this beast

 

[grayson7614]

I love the X1 now.....

When i first started driving it with the DS3 i honestly thought it was impossible. After afew hours i masted Monza and bronze was always going to happen. Then the Nurburgring took 4 hours and i thought i'd really got the hang of it but then came Suzuka I gave up after afew hours and left it afew days to try again, then gave up again and decided to lvl b-spec to 35. Realised that was going to take to long so i had another bash, kept myself calm and i began to get the hang of it. After hours i finally managed bronze, i was so chuffed.

Since i've owned one i took it to the high speed ring where i could really get a feel for the car and not worry about crashing. Slowly but surely i began to really control this thing and it feels great when you get it right. Now i can lap the n'ring in under 3,40 minutes.

It amazing how our brains adapt and learn in such a short time, Its easily the hardest challenge i've ever had to do on a computer game and it feels great once accomplished. Managed all 3 golds now using the DS3

Good job Gaz!
After a few tries with my DS3 on the Vettel challenges I was miles from bronze so had Bob grind to lvl 35.
Since then I've been grinding the X2010 in the dream car championship. 35 mins' earns me nearly 1 million credits and a great knowledge of the car... I'm now running 01.01.5xx laps at Monza and 54 second laps around the Tokyo circuit!
I can't imagine how many hours and DSQ'd laps of the Vettel challenges would have left me as comfortable in this car. We are now one
Peaching a lap in the X2010 feels so sweet!

 

[GazRwood]

Cheers recca and grayson. Without driving the car on other tracks and having that freedom i wouldn't of got close to them golds though. I think you did the best stress free way grayson Ruined my Christmas eve,lol. Good times to!

I also think once you do have the hang of it with the ds3 its an advantage over any wheel. You simply can't turn a wheel as quick.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Cheers recca and grayson. Without driving the car on other tracks and having that freedom i wouldn't of got close to them golds though. I think you did the best stress free way grayson Ruined my Christmas eve,lol. Good times to!

I also think once you do have the hang of it with the ds3 its an advantage over any wheel. You simply can't turn a wheel as quick.

Any chance you can post videos of your DS3 Gold runs. You might be the first person to do it or at least first to post on YouTube for all three of them if you do.

I disagree with you about being faster with the DS3, it is impossible to be as fast as a wheel as you don't have the precision or the ability to change direction as quick unless they speed up the steering rate for the pads for this car.

 

[grayson7614]

Cheers recca and grayson. Without driving the car on other tracks and having that freedom i wouldn't of got close to them golds though. I think you did the best stress free way grayson Ruined my Christmas eve,lol. Good times to!

Ha, ha! I do tend to think along the same lines as electricity... i.e. The path of least resistance!

Out of interest, have you run your X2010 in Tokyo? Not sure I can improve on my 54.7 second lap but would love to hear what others can do!

 

[Chronoslol]

Cheers recca and grayson. Without driving the car on other tracks and having that freedom i wouldn't of got close to them golds though. I think you did the best stress free way grayson Ruined my Christmas eve,lol. Good times to!

Ha, ha! I do tend to think along the same lines as electricity... i.e. The path of least resistance!

Out of interest, have you run your X2010 in Tokyo? Not sure I can improve on my 54.7 second lap but would love to hear what others can do!

My best lap is 49'804, but that was only after a few tries, i've done mid 49's during races in the dream car cup.

That's with all aids but abs 1 off and slipperyness thingy on 'real'.

On a related note my Cape Ring best time is 1'15:413.

 

[grayson7614]

My best lap is 49'804, but that was only after a few tries, i've done mid 49's during races in the dream car cup.

That's with all aids but abs 1 off and slipperyness thingy on 'real'.

On a related note my Cape Ring best time is 1'15:413.

49' is nuts!👍 I really thought 54 was pretty good. I will have to try harder!

 

[atiger]

ATTN: anyone doubting the X1/X2010: The X2010 IS technically possible to build with materials and technology available this very moment. That was the purpose - to design the best car possible with today's technology. So while it may look futuristic and sci-fi, that's pure aerodynamic engineering.

I doubt it, but I'm willing to believe you provided you can furnish me with evidence to back up your statement.

 

[buskape]

I doubt it, but I'm willing to believe you provided you can furnish me with evidence to back up your statement.

It's the F1 Red bull would build if their were no FIA Limitation rules in racing. It was in the announcements for GT5

 

[atiger]

It's the F1 Red bull would build if their were no FIA Limitation rules in racing. It was in the announcements for GT5

Yes I know. Companies can claim anything they like. What I'm looking for is engineering proof that such a car is possible. Can you provide it?

 

[ussr]

I love the X1 now.....

When i first started driving it with the DS3 i honestly thought it was impossible. After afew hours i masted Monza and bronze was always going to happen. Then the Nurburgring took 4 hours and i thought i'd really got the hang of it but then came Suzuka I gave up after afew hours and left it afew days to try again, then gave up again and decided to lvl b-spec to 35. Realised that was going to take to long so i had another bash, kept myself calm and i began to get the hang of it. After hours i finally managed bronze, i was so chuffed.

Since i've owned one i took it to the high speed ring where i could really get a feel for the car and not worry about crashing. Slowly but surely i began to really control this thing and it feels great when you get it right. Now i can lap the n'ring in under 3,40 minutes.

It amazing how our brains adapt and learn in such a short time, Its easily the hardest challenge i've ever had to do on a computer game and it feels great once accomplished. Managed all 3 golds now using the DS3

Off course there is hight probability that you are lying. It's not possible with DS because of precise steering and throttle required in Suzuka corners, just can't achieve with DS.

 

[eskimochaos]

Off course there is hight probability that you are lying. It's not possible with DS because of precise steering and throttle required in Suzuka corners, just can't achieve with DS.

What if he can? I'm still awaiting video as well.

 

[sam2k10]

What is grinding???????

 

[sam2k10]

i am working my way up to 35 b spec so that i can get it i hope it is as good as some people say it is...

 

[SoMe0nE2tAlK2]

I doubt it, but I'm willing to believe you provided you can furnish me with evidence to back up your statement.

The first two problems that come into my head when attempting to make this car would be
1. Tires that can grip well enough to handle 8g's and 500km/h
2. A brake system that can stop a car going 500km/h without boiling and turning into rubbish

Solve those and I'm sure the rest will fall into place.

 

[Car Man]

Yes I know. Companies can claim anything they like. What I'm looking for is engineering proof that such a car is possible. Can you provide it?

the fan car principal has been prooved by the 2J can am racer, as for the engine it a turbo charged F1 derived engine only 200-300bhp more than Renault were running in qualifying in F1's turbo era in the early 80's.almost all of the principals have been proved at one time or another they have just never been all put on the same car

 

[minihulkster]

Yes I know. Companies can claim anything they like. What I'm looking for is engineering proof that such a car is possible. Can you provide it?

It is possible to engineer this car. Take a look at this pic of the Caparo T1

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Now apply fan tecnology that was already proven and used in the Chapparal 2j

and you have the X1. Now whether it performs like it does in the game or is even drivable by a human is another question.

 

[Destinkeys]

ATTN: anyone doubting the X1/X2010: The X2010 IS technically possible to build with materials and technology available this very moment. That was the purpose - to design the best car possible with today's technology. So while it may look futuristic and sci-fi, that's pure aerodynamic engineering.

We can already build planes that can't be flown by a human. It's not that the technology to build it might exist, on paper (I'm still interested in tires that can handle 8g for a race, though), but whether anybody could withstand the punishment of driving it, or race organizers that might be concerned about spectator safety should the fan engine blow (but, this being science fiction, 100% reliable engines should be a given, shouldn't they?) and the downforce disappear suddenly.

Indy cars are already pushing the limits of what drivers can endure in turns, and blackouts and neck injuries are causing the tracks to be modified and cars limited. The X1 ratchets these problems up another order of magnitude. This is sci-fi, pure and simple. Until we breed a better, faster, more powerful human being, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, faster than a speeding bullet.... Hold on! THAT'S sci-fi, too!

Reality? Epic fail!

 

[GazRwood]

Off course there is hight probability that you are lying. It's not possible with DS because of precise steering and throttle required in Suzuka corners, just can't achieve with DS.

I use L2 and R2 for brake and throttle, its very easy to control with them. Also the way i drive the X1 doesn't really require precise throttle control. TC on 0 allows you to nail the throttle and just burn the tyres slightly. Still i've been using a pad since the GT4 days and i've never had any problems using the throttle precisely.

To help learn i drove the Nurburgring 4 hour endurance with the X2010 3 times to get a good feel for the car. After doing that on the N'ring going back to Suzuka was a million times easier than it was when i was trying to win the car in the first place. Like i said originally, its amazing how our brains adapt in such a short time.


Its possible around Monza to do 1,58s with a wheel and you're saying its impossible to get within 5/6 seconds with a DS3? Same story with Nurburg and Suzuka.

I expect in 6 months time there will be hundreds of others who have done this. Im not really fussed if anyone believes me to be honest. I know i have and thats all that matters to me!

Any chance you can post videos of your DS3 Gold runs. You might be the first person to do it or at least first to post on YouTube for all three of them if you do.

I disagree with you about being faster with the DS3, it is impossible to be as fast as a wheel as you don't have the precision or the ability to change direction as quick unless they speed up the steering rate for the pads for this car.

I think you're right about the wheel being faster. After seeing a guy post a video of him breezing to a 1,59 at Monza and saying he can do lots better made me realise i was wrong.
I don't see how a video would help unless its of me using the pad and seeing the TV aswell? Like i said im not bothered who believes what. When i was 17 i would of been but that was bloody years ago unfortunately... and im well beyond caring for things like this now,lol

 

[grayson7614]

I don't see how a video would help unless its of me using the pad and seeing the TV aswell? Like i said im not bothered who believes what. When i was 17 i would of been but that was bloody years ago unfortunately... and im well beyond caring for things like this now,lol

Hi again Gaz,
I for one believe you, although I'm sure I'll never gold them myself with the DS3. I consider myself pretty good at racing sims' but certainly no GOD! If I can post 1.01.5's at Monza in free-play with a DS3 then there's no doubt in my mind that 'golding' all three of the Vettel Challenges with one is possible.
I can also understand that after the hours you have put in, (in order to achieve this yourself) the idea of doing it again with a cam-corder sitting on your shoulder doesn't appeal!
My full respect to you,
Ben