Remember how the R34 was ugly in a kind of cool way?

[Driftster]

Well in my honest opinion.
It isn't all that attractive. It looks like a joke car concept that will never see the light of day for a good reason..

but the sad thing is, it WILL see the light of day..

Ugly racoon car.

 

[Zardoz]

...the new Z06 is one of the best buys on the American market...

And the rest of the world's markets, as well.

 

[Dave A]

Not quite, it's one of the bst in America and maybea few other places, the Corvette gets beat in the UK in price and performance, but lets not get into that again in this thread.

 

[Young_Warrior]

LOL zardoz said that on purpose to wind people up.

 

[McLaren]

Oookaaayy. So just because this car does not officially carry the Skyline name, we're supposed to just forget about the past Skyline GT-Rs?
P.S. There are Skylines out there that could wup up on the McLaren F1 in acceleration from 0-any given speed or distance, could beat it around a racetrack and reach a higher top speed. All the while using street tires and costing about a tenth of your precious McLaren. That's why, for me, the Skyline is the greatest performance car the world has ever seen. Nothing can touch it.

I never said that people are supposed to forget about the Skyline. Hell, I didn't say a d*mn thing about killing off Skylines.

I just said its a GT-R, and has nothing to do with a d*mn Skyline. D*mn, just like the rest of this site, people are starting to misquote people, and its getting really ****ing annoying.

I never said you're supposed to forget about Skylines or anything near that so don't start bringing up random bull****.

The Skyline and GT-R have split, this GT-R being nothing Skyline. You can remember Skyline all you want, but I NEVER said you're supposed to forget them.

And the whole Skyline Vs. McLaren **** has nothing to do with my reply. BTW, without modifications, you do realize a Skyline wouldn't do **** and its hardly the greatest performance car out there.
All it did was raise fanboys of which you seem to join the ranks, and yes, as did McLaren, but who did so much more.

Again, I don't give a **** if you want to remember the Skyline. Good for you since I never said a d*mn thing about forgetting it.

If anyone's argument is idiotic, its your's for bringing in random **** to someone's reply like alot of the people on this site trying to make it seem like the person their replying to seem like a bad guy.

This site needs to work on that because its getting really godd*mn annoying seeing someone say stupid **** that had nothing to do with your comment nor when your comment said nothing about "you're supposed to forget about the Skyline."

Here's a fact stupid.
The Corvette Z06 actually has CORVETTE in it.
The GT-R doesn't even have SKYLINE anywhere it.
That's the point I was trying to make which you seemed to miss.

Its also getting annoying going into the most simple context to explain to someone that in this case, the GT-R isn't a Skyline when it shouldn't even have taken 1 time to explain, but I guess some people where born to be stupid and twist other's words for their own "advantage."

 

[Wolfe]

Well, considering...

Now when I hear of the GT-R, I won't have to hear Skyline fanboys with it.

...isn't exactly a logical statement (Skyline fanboys are Skyline fanboys because of the GT-R. I doubt dropping the "Skyline" part is going to change how they feel about the car), it's easy to see how fangorn_forest interpreted it incorrectly. Calm down...

Oookaaayy. So just because this car does not officially carry the Skyline name, we're supposed to just forget about the past Skyline GT-Rs? As if this is a completely new car with no connection whatsoever to our beloved GT-Rs? Ya, that's gonna happen. The new Miata's official name is MX-5, not MX-5 Miata as it has been in the past. But you know what, people still call it the Miata. Hell, even Mazda executives themselves call it the Miata from time to time, and have publicly stated they don't mind if people call it the Miata. And it's all because they don't want to deny the cars heritage, and I highly doubt Nissan wants to deny the heritage of it's fastest, most famous and most historic model. It'd be like Chevy calling the C6 Z06 simply Z06, with no Corvette in the official title, and expecting us to believe there's no connection between it and the Corvette. No offense, but your aguement is simply idiotic.

P.S. There are Skylines out there that could wup up on the McLaren F1 in acceleration from 0-any given speed or distance, could beat it around a racetrack and reach a higher top speed. All the while using street tires and costing about a tenth of your precious McLaren. That's why, for me, the Skyline is the greatest performance car the world has ever seen. Nothing can touch it.

You're not without blame -- you took a simple argument and ran way too far with it. I don't think your point needed that much aggression and detail behind it.

 

[Jay]

And the rest of the world's markets, as well.

Hardly, as a Z06 in Australia would be roughly $250,000 give or take.

The Skyline and GT-R have split, this GT-R being nothing Skyline.

I have read that the new GTR is actually modified directly from the yet unreleased
V36 Skyline. By the time the GTR is here the V36 will be also.

 

[Joey D]

The Z06 is an awesome cars not matter how you look at it, but in anywhere else except American and possibly Canada you can get the same kind of performance but cheaper.

But anyways I guess you could say that the Skyline is like the new GTO, decent car but all that's left it the name

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

right but keep in mind all this banter back and forth is over a model with no engine, i say wait till we have some hard official specs then we can start comparing them, untill then there really is no point in comparing performance...

 

[Young_Warrior]

i reckon the GTr will come in around 450hp.

 

[niky]

The Z06 is an awesome cars not matter how you look at it, but in anywhere else except American and possibly Canada you can get the same kind of performance but cheaper.

But anyways I guess you could say that the Skyline is like the new GTO, decent car but all that's left it the name

We'll have to wait and see. It's not going to be a mod-monster like the old GT-Rs, but you never know... it's likely they'll want to use the next GTR as the base for their JGTC campaign cars, so they'll likely build more potential into the engine than they did with the 350Z and the Skyline G35.

As long as it has turbos, power and Nissan's nifty AWD system, it'll still be in the spirit of the "Godzilla".

 

[Dave A]

I have read that the new GTR is actually modified directly from the yet unreleased
V36 Skyline. By the time the GTR is here the V36 will be also.

I've read a single report saying that, however it was a pretty old report and it goes directly against Nissan's statements that the Skyline badge will live on in more luxury based cars and the GT-R has broken off into a different model range, and thats been coming from Nissan for the last few years, not just a single unconfirmed report, they're confirmed statements.

 

[Jay]

I've read a single report saying that, however it was a pretty old report and it goes directly against Nissan's statements that the Skyline badge will live on in more luxury based cars and the GT-R has broken off into a different model range, and thats been coming from Nissan for the last few years, not just a single unconfirmed report, they're confirmed statements.

Doesnt mean the GTR cant be based off the Skyline, the Skyline name was probably dropped so they could modify the looks how they want instead of Skyline constraints (eg more than just spoilers, wings etc) they can now do what ever they want with it like cut the roof line and anything else they want. Underneath the parts most people would never see is probably Skyline and FM platform parts instead of making a new car from scratch which would make the GTR very expensive and I think thats somthing they want to keep away from.


I didnt mean that the V36 will look the same but more tame, I meant the bits you dont see will most likely be shared.

 

[Zrow]

"The GT-R wouldn't need twin-turbos, all-wheel drive, four-wheel steering, and big intercoolers if it wasn't a heavy-ass piece of pork to begin with. And the feds ain't got nothing to do with it: Nissan never sent us the GT-R because out of the 12 people in America who'd actually spend 911 Turbo money on an outdated-looking Japanese coupe, six are in jail at any given time."

Haha! Where did that come from?

 

[Dave A]

Doesnt mean the GTR cant be based off the Skyline, the Skyline name was probably dropped so they could modify the looks how they want instead of Skyline constraints (eg more than just spoilers, wings etc) they can now do what ever they want with it like cut the roof line and anything else they want. Underneath the parts most people would never see is probably Skyline and FM platform parts instead of making a new car from scratch which would make the GTR very expensive and I think thats somthing they want to keep away from.


I didnt mean that the V36 will look the same but more tame, I meant the bits you dont see will most likely be shared.

I never said it couldn't based on the Skyline like share the chassis ect, but overall it's a different model lineup to the Skyline now whereas in the past the GT-R has been the performance flagship of the Skyline range, it's no longer part of that range anymore.

 

[Jay]

I never said it couldn't based on the Skyline like share the chassis ect

Thats what I meant (see quote below), I never said Skyline and GTR are still in the same range.

I have read that the new GTR is actually modified directly from the yet unreleased
V36 Skyline.

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

I have read that the new GTR is actually modified directly from the yet unreleased
V36 Skyline.

Nissan says the new car will have its own body, not one derived from a production sedan range (Skyline) as before.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103419

 

[Jay]

Nissan says the new car will have its own body, not one derived from a production sedan range (Skyline) as before.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103419

Wow Nissan are pulling out all the stops, It will be expensive for them but hopefully not for us (consumers).

 

[rollazn]

Why does every single thread made about skylines - have to turn into some chaotic topic? Do anyone notice this as well? Another fact - almost all GTR thread involves the Corvette Z06. It's getting old.

Anyways - a lot of people have different opinion on this matter. I believe that all GTR - so far (R32-R34) looked great. Remember, opinion are like buttholes everyone has them.

This concept - isn't that bad. I was expecting something spectular - but from what I see; it looks good. I might be considered a "Skyline fanboy" because of my obsession of the Skyline GTRs. But I know it won't beat any McLaren or Corvette Z06. I might be a fanboy - but I have common sense.

 

[Young_Warrior]

This new gtr might be capable of beating the z06 and it will cost about $5 grand more

 

[Danny]

Since I like neither the Corvette or the Skyline, I'll just give my point and leave.

I think this concept is a step in the right direction of making the Skyline look less like a 2-door sedan with rice.

 

[Young_Warrior]

I like em boith too a degree but I think I would like them both more if people would stop stating they are better than when the wheel was invented.

 

[Jay]

Why does every single thread made about skylines - have to turn into some chaotic topic? Do anyone notice this as well? Another fact - almost all GTR thread involves the Corvette Z06. It's getting old.

Haha Yeah I noticed also.

 

[Eric.]

I've read here and there that it will have a "7 speed CVT". First off, I thought that CVTs were pretty fragile, thus not being used in 450hp cars...Before someone says "CVTs don't have gears you noob!", I'll make the assumption that those "speeds" basically set the maximum gear ratio for that "gear". I was driving it in GT4 today and it accelerates like an automatic (no gas but will go about 8mph anyway). I don't think PD created it as a CVT though. The RPM doesn't stay stuck to the redline like the Prius or something would, it acts like normal gears. The shifts are instantaneous though.

As for horsepower, www.gtrproto.com did say that it would be powered by a 450 horsepower turbocharged VQ35. I do like the looks, besides the sharp angle at the top of the windshield. The sides look quite a bit like an R34, the front bares no resemblance, and the taillights are the same basic style as the R31-34s.

I don't want to say anything about the Z06, but I think the Sky-...err.."GT-R" will beat it in 0-60 and the quarter mile, just because of the AWD and the transmission.

 

[Onikaze]

How much will the GT-R weigh?

Didn't see it on the site anywhere.

 

[Danny]

Probably too much then...

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

I've read here and there that it will have a "7 speed CVT". First off, I thought that CVTs were pretty fragile, thus not being used in 450hp cars...Before someone says "CVTs don't have gears you noob!", I'll make the assumption that those "speeds" basically set the maximum gear ratio for that "gear". I was driving it in GT4 today and it accelerates like an automatic (no gas but will go about 8mph anyway). I don't think PD created it as a CVT though. The RPM doesn't stay stuck to the redline like the Prius or something would, it acts like normal gears. The shifts are instantaneous though.

As for horsepower, www.gtrproto.com did say that it would be powered by a 450 horsepower turbocharged VQ35. I do like the looks, besides the sharp angle at the top of the windshield. The sides look quite a bit like an R34, the front bares no resemblance, and the taillights are the same basic style as the R31-34s.

I don't want to say anything about the Z06, but I think the Sky-...err.."GT-R" will beat it in 0-60 and the quarter mile, just because of the AWD and the transmission.

Its not a CVT, its a sequential tranny, big difference. and gtrproto.com doesnt say anythign about the power or the specs....

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

How much will the GT-R weigh?

Didn't see it on the site anywhere.

less than the 350Z

 

[Onikaze]

I've seen a magazine speculate 3400 Lbs, 450 Hp, 400 Lb Ft, and possibly that it will be just RWD to enhance the Weight Balance.

I must say, after seeing the GT-R Prototype, I went into GT4 and picked up a R34 V-Spec II Nur in Black, and the R34 looks MUCH better by comparison, I dare say it's kind of cool looking now.

 

[niky]

They're full of it. A GTR in FR? Sacrilege! That's what the Z-car is for. But seriously, if they're the only ones saying it... I mean, so many people are saying so many things about the next GTR that I'm just going to wait for official word.

I've read here and there that it will have a "7 speed CVT". First off, I thought that CVTs were pretty fragile, thus not being used in 450hp cars...Before someone says "CVTs don't have gears you noob!", I'll make the assumption that those "speeds" basically set the maximum gear ratio for that "gear". I was driving it in GT4 today and it accelerates like an automatic (no gas but will go about 8mph anyway). I don't think PD created it as a CVT though. The RPM doesn't stay stuck to the redline like the Prius or something would, it acts like normal gears. The shifts are instantaneous though.

As for horsepower, www.gtrproto.com did say that it would be powered by a 450 horsepower turbocharged VQ35. I do like the looks, besides the sharp angle at the top of the windshield. The sides look quite a bit like an R34, the front bares no resemblance, and the taillights are the same basic style as the R31-34s.

I don't want to say anything about the Z06, but I think the Sky-...err.."GT-R" will beat it in 0-60 and the quarter mile, just because of the AWD and the transmission.

It's belt-driven CVTs that can't take more than 150hp or thereabouts. This is partially alleviated by the use of chain-driven CVTs, but they can only hold so much. Nissan, however, has quietly been using a CVT on its Gloria for almost/over a decade (correct me on numbers, not sure, but it's been a loooong time). That car has a CVT and 300hp, as well as being a gargantuan behemoth. The secret is a mechanical CVT, and that's probably what they're planning on using... IF they do go that direction.