Ridiculously overpriced used cars

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If it didn't have the aftermarket engine and exhaust parts, I'd be willing to go sticker price on it. Just finding a foxbody with the body panels and OEM wheels in good condition anymore is getting difficult, especially since most of the 5.0 models have long since been ripped apart and turned into ratty looking drag cars.
 

Now I love this GT3RS as much as the next person, and yes some have touched a million, but $2.7 million is :lol:
4.0, PTS optioned, under 400 miles, plus it's being sold by GRP who aren't shy to throw a premium on top of the most mint condition cars.

There's been a few sub-1,000 mile 4.0s in the last year, and they've barely even touched $1,000,000, so I'm inclined to agree $2.7 million is incredibly optimistic. Esp. when there's a Porsche-recommissioned Carrera GT for $1.7 million in their inventory. That's more than enough to go out & buy another "standard" 4.0.
 
Have you got a million euro burning a hole in your pocket? Come to Ireland and buy a Lamborghini Revuelto!

Screenshot, because sellers on Donedeal love to take down their ads every 3-5 business days just to put up another ad for the same car.
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They also love using fake prices, so that their ad will show up when you sort results by lowest price and forgot to exclude anything below €1235.
 
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1997 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S for $179,993[/B]
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I know the Porsche 993 commands ridiculous prices nowadays, but seriously, $180K for a non-turbo, non-RS 993 is ludicrously overpriced even by air-cooled Porsche standards.
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993 is the pinnacle of 911. Hand built, analog... last of the genuine 911.

In my opinion these are the two best looking sports cars ever made. I can never afford either one but I can drive them both on AC. :D

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And that not even a really expensive 993.... less than 200K. This is.

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And that not even a really expensive 993.... less than 200K. This is.

(sorry for the double post but it didn't allow me to attach another photo)

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That makes a bit more sense, it’s the most exclusive and highest performing 993. I believe there’s less than 200 of those in existence and it’s a motorsports homologation special that rivalled the Ferrari F40, Dodge Viper and McLaren F1.
 
@SPhilli911 would know better than me, but I don't think the 993 GT2 was ever available in the US (it has Show & Display approval) as well, so they've gone for crazy money stateside.
 
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@SPhilli911 would know better than me, but I don't think the 993 GT2 was ever available in the US (it has Show & Display approval) as well, so they've gone for crazy money stateside.
One of the rarest and most desirable 911s ever made, though I can't really explain the pricetag other than high demand for the very few that come up for sale. Air-cooled 911 prices in general are seemingly always climbing, not surprised that the rarest versions are snapped up for stupid prices.

They were never sold in the U.S. as you said but they can be imported and registered now, even the later 1998 models. They've been selling for crazy money outside the U.S. as well, if I recall a Rivera Blue example sold back in 2016 for $2.4 million to an Australian buyer.

Wonder if that white one above is the same as one I saw at Lime Rock back in 2016/7. It was not U.S. legal at that time, so maybe it was under Show and Display. But of course it has the sketchy Montana plate thing too.

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One of the rarest and most desirable 911s ever made, though I can't really explain the pricetag other than high demand for the very few that come up for sale. Air-cooled 911 prices in general are seemingly always climbing, not surprised that the rarest versions are snapped up for stupid prices.

They were never sold in the U.S. as you said but they can be imported and registered now, even the later 1998 models. They've been selling for crazy money outside the U.S. as well, if I recall a Rivera Blue example sold back in 2016 for $2.4 million to an Australian buyer.

Wonder if that white one above is the same as one I saw at Lime Rock back in 2016/7. It was not U.S. legal at that time, so maybe it was under Show and Display. But of course it has the sketchy Montana plate thing too.

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According to ECR, your example resides in New York (if that's your photo btw, they specifically use it as the thumbnail), & the Sotheby car began residing in Houston in 2015 after coming from Italy. They also note your example is Grand Prix White & the other car is Glacier White.
 
964 RS Leichtbau and Turbo 3.6 go for crazy money as well. Ironically 964 RS America was the cheapest 911 available at that time. It was the same for 968 Club Sport. All comfort options were disabled. Now Porsche charges more for those cars. :)

They only produced about 130.000 964's and 993's COMBINED. And when those cars were on sale much bigger percentage were cabrios, targas and a lot of tiptronics were sold in the Europe. There are only about 60K 964 and 993 manual coupes produced... combined. And even fewer 964 C2's. That's also the reason why the asking prices are what they are.

Just compare that to 996 which sold 1.5 times more than 964 and 993 combined. It was actually a great success story for Porsche as the production costs were greatly reduced with the new production line. They didn't have to deal with expensive and slow hand manufacturing anymore. Sure it was based on the cheaper Boxter but 996 was the model that saved Porsche from bankrupcy. 964 and 993 were way too expensive to produce.

Production numbers.

G 1974-1986:
196,000

964:
63,762

993:
68.029

996:
175,164

997:
212,964

991:
233,540

996 and newer 911's are completely different cars. Not saying they're better or worse but 993 was the last one which was actually based on the original 911.

This was actually pretty good video.



And as mentioned before those air cooled special models were actually special. Production numbers just hundreds or low thousands.
 
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993 GT2's have commanded astronomical prices from new. Being genuine homologation vehicles they've always been on collectors radars, as far as i remember seing GT2's advertised.

A 993 C4S though...
 
According to ECR, your example resides in New York (if that's your photo btw, they specifically use it as the thumbnail), & the Sotheby car began residing in Houston in 2015 after coming from Italy. They also note your example is Grand Prix White & the other car is Glacier White.
Interesting because that is indeed my picture used on ECR. 🤔

The shades of white do look different now that I look again. And the other car posted above is part of the infamous White Collection of (you guessed it) all white 911s.
 
964 RS Leichtbau and Turbo 3.6 go for crazy money as well.
One of the rarest of the 964s is the 3.3 Turbo S Leichtbau with 86 units, more rare than the 993 GT2. And yet it still "only" hovers around the $1 million mark.

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There are only about 60K 964 and 993 manual coupes produced... combined.
As an owner of a manual 993 Coupe I just want to add that they may be expensive but holy smokes what a car that is!

It could probably work as a ”one-car-solution” for me:
I can fit my entire family in it and some luggage, it is fast and can easily go on track-days but at the same time go grocery-shopping, it feels modern and reliable enough to go on a cross continental journey with but at the same time got that old-ish car feel to it, I can perform basic maintanance work on it by myself, the build quality is outstanding and most importantly it makes me smile every time I turn the key and I get warm inside when I see it! Probably the best car I have ever owned, with all aspects considered.

They might be expensive or overpriced to some degree when compared to newer 911s or other sportscars, but their awesome build quality, (relatively) rarity and old-school feeling makes up for it in my opinion.

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