Santander British GP 2008 - Race Buildup, Testing Photos etc.

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Kovalienen changes to new inters, I think they should have chanced full wets if this rain keeps up.
 
Well I suppose if he still struggles in inters then they'll decide whether to put them on Hamilton or not.
 
Oh lawd, everyone's struggling :lol:

And Massa off again!
 
Piquet out, he has some unreal luck, but I dont think he is up to F1 standards.
This is becoming unbelieveable, worse than Nurburg last year.
 
Piquet out, he has some unreal luck, but I dont think he is up to F1 standards.
This is becoming unbelieveable, worse than Nurburg last year.

This really is Lewis', BMW's and Toyota's day, isn't it? :p
 
Wow, brave choice to stick with the inters... but now that Heidfeld has just switched to inters too, it's a straight fight between who can keep it on the track until the end...

edit: Raikkonen off again :scared:
 
This is even more of a nightmare now! :( Heidfeld is my only Fantasy F1 driver with a chance of a podium.
 
Barichello could have potentially have nabbed a race win. :(
 
Heidfeld could have won if they'd changed to full wets. Even if he had to stop to change back to inters.
 
I can't help thinking Vettel would be in the top 6 had DC not tapped him :mad:
 
Massa has spent the afternoon showing that he cannot drive without traction control there to bail him out.
 
Well, not in the rain anyway :lol:

Meh, that was a boring race..let's move the GP to Donnington.
 
Well, not in the rain anyway :lol:

Meh, that was a boring race..let's move the GP to Donnington.

:lol: nice bit of sarcasim, but it'll still rain in Donnington!
Well done to both Barrachello and Heifled, I didnt see them off the road once, they're my drivers of the day, because Hamilton had a car in a different class then them and went off once. Thats my armchair expert view :sly:, but ofcourse Hamilton done well.
 
Good drive by Lewis, but I'm really getting sick of this.

Had Heidfeld, Raikkonen, or even Barichello won, would ITV, James Allen particularly, made such an emphasis on how "history making" the drive was, or how "Senna-esque" and "Schumacher-esque" he is. It feels like every single feature is about him, even the opening credits. For Christ's sake, there are 19 other drivers too.
 
Good drive by Lewis, but I'm really getting sick of this.

Had Heidfeld, Raikkonen, or even Barichello won, would ITV, James Allen particularly, made such an emphasis on how "history making" the drive was, or how "Senna-esque" and "Schumacher-esque" he is. It feels like every single feature is about him, even the opening credits. For Christ's sake, there are 19 other drivers too.

Correct, the full driver lineup for today's grand prix from james allen was

Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton
 
Good drive by Lewis, but I'm really getting sick of this.

Had Heidfeld, Raikkonen, or even Barichello won, would ITV, James Allen particularly, made such an emphasis on how "history making" the drive was, or how "Senna-esque" and "Schumacher-esque" he is. It feels like every single feature is about him, even the opening credits. For Christ's sake, there are 19 other drivers too.

As good as Hamilton is I do agree with this, hopefully when the BBC get it next year they dont make this mistake.
 
Or in the first 2 races (both in the dry) this year.

Still, he's getting the job done pointswise...

Today, Lewis Hamilton has been compared to Mansell, Piquet, Senna, Schumacher and Prost.
Good God, calm it down ITV. He's good, but this is borderline hubris.
 
As much I hate to say it, I admit it: Hamilton did a GREAT race:
No spins, no stupid mistakes (China anyone?) good pitting strategy...
Damn, the only I didn't like from the race is that Kubica had to retire.
 
I think ITV do give credit to other drivers pretty even-handedly, although there is an obvious focus on Lewis Hamilton... but just because they are bigging him up constantly doesn't mean to say that he doesn't deserve it. Perhaps it's too early in his career to be drawing comparisons with the greats, but there is already little doubt that Lewis Hamilton is brilliant in the rain - so comparisons to other great rain drivers (e.g Senna and Schumacher) are justified...

The commentators are damned if they do and damned if they don't pay attention to British drivers... and it's not a uniquely British phenomenon either. IIRC, German TV features German drivers in their graphics at the start of the race, but that's hardly a shock either. But Hamilton is winning races, and since the start of his career he's never been far from the top of the points standings too, and hence he's getting the attention. But if the last fortnight has proved anything, it's that this level of attention is a double-edged sword... Hamilton has also attracted very harsh criticism from the UK media, arguably with far less justification than ITV's pro-Hamilton bias. It is a British channel, with a vested interest in promoting British interests after all... (notice the number of adverts LH appears in during the race, for example)... Atleast he is winning - it was 100 times more annoying to listen to them carping on about Jenson Button...
 
Oh wow, I'm just speechless! :eek: That is one of the greatest races I've seen ever! Even better than Nurburgring last years!!!!! :D But wow, I'm out. You all have said it for me, wonderful race and yeah, congrats to Lewis on his dominating win in the British GP. 👍
 
Normality! I hate normality, let it rain every race!

Fantastic race. I have to say it Hamilton's drive was stunning, maybe not the Senna-esque as Mr Allen pointed out but to win by over 60 seconds is massive.
Massa rewinds to 2002 which was also a wet race and he spun at every opportunity he could. Surprised to see Kimi spin alot as well.

Rubens all the way! It was him and not Ross that apparently made the call for Extreme wets and it paid dividends for him. Nice to see a Honda up there.

Only one more race here (well apparently..)
 
Oh, what an awesome race. Shame all my favourites couldn't catch a break: Kubica and Piquet with unfortunate spins that really weren't their fault, and Alonso who got ****ed over time and time again with strategic decisions - not changing tyres at first was a big mistake, as was fueling to the finish, since his tyres weren't up to it. He ran top-times whenever he was on a fresh set, but he struggled so hard at the end of the second stint that even Kazuki on the full-wets was closing in on him. At least Barrichello got on the podium, with a brilliant call (by Ross Brawn or someone else?). The Hondas were absolutely flying there, and made up the time they lost in the pits within two laps - and then went on to 2nd place! A third place was so much more than what they could've hoped for - it's shaping up like a great season for the old-timer Barrichello. :cheers:

I do wonder, sometimes, what sort of alcoholic mixture flows in the blood of a Renault strategist. Every single call they make is wrong, too early, or too late. The drys at Monaco, first on Alonso and then on Piquet. The odd strategies at Barcelona (understandable, since they were shooting for pole), but then also Canada and France. Or not changing tyres, learning that the car struggles on worn tyres, and then deciding to do an epic 32-lap stint. Didn't they think of replicating the Hondas? The Renault was 4 positions ahead, so with the Wets, it could've been a solid podium. They could've at least experimented with one of the cars - perhaps the easier-to-drive tyres for Piquet? I don't understand these guys.


As for Hamilton, that was a great drive - but dammit, Allen, shut up! The RTL guys were stupid enough to commit virtual suicide by giving him the control over their microphones for the last lap. "Oh and Lewis and he's driven a mesmerizing race and he's fantastic and oh oh oh." Equally good races were Heidfeld's, Barrichello's and a few others.

Or in the first 2 races (both in the dry) this year.

Yet since that, he even drove cleaner than Kimi in a few races, and equals Kimi for the championship lead. Kimi wasn't an angel this race either (nor on quite a few other occasions), and was very lucky when he spun over the gravel, luckily stopping on the green bits just meters ahead of the pitlane wall. The Ferrari was just atrocious in the wetter conditions, and both drivers had to back off extremely out of the final corner, where that bump caught Massa off-guard three times, and Raikkonen twice.. The only top-driver who wasn't off the track today was Heidfeld.

The commentators are damned if they do and damned if they don't pay attention to British drivers... and it's not a uniquely British phenomenon either. But Hamilton is winning races, and hence he's getting the attention.

True point - the Germans are even crazier at times, especially when more than two of the six Germans are in strong positions. I've had the (mis)fortune of hearing both the English channel about Hamilton's victory and the German channel about Heidfeld's 2nd place, and they did sound pretty much the same: "And Hamilton wins the British Grand Prix, what a mesmerizing drive". 30 seconds later, "Und jetzt kommt Nick Heidfeld, was fur eine tolle fahrt zum zweiten platz!". They even said "We're going to react just like James did".
 
Barichello could have potentially have nabbed a race win. :(

How? By chucking Nitro into the engine instead of normal race fuel? ;)

I thought it was a very good race. Lewis was sublime, he was so much quicker than all the other guys on Inters, just surprised only Rubens went onto Wets (I'm not going to call them Extreme Weather tyres). It was fun watching Massa trying to drive, but apparently it was due to aquaplaning, nothing to do with you being a throttle stamper then, Felipé? Separates the men from the boys with no TC in the rain.

Very enjoyable race. Chuffed for Rubens, he was just so happy! Again though, I was disappointed with Kova. Okay, the race conditions were pretty exceptional, but to qualify 1st and end up 5th is a poor effort. McLaren would be disappointed to not have grabbed 18 points from this race and gain 13/14 points on Ferrari. Difficult circumstances to judge though.
 
The two Ferrari did seem to have a problem that doesn't relate to the driver - it was a bitch to drive into the corners as well, and the ex-drivers on the RTL crew raised the possibility that the Ferrari cars are driving a bit too low for that weather - the slight bump out of the final corners would then, coupled with the layer of rain, cut off the airflow under the car. They both had absolutely no control in that corner..

And yeah, Kovalainen drove pretty embarrassing race - for the first time, probably, it was his mistakes that cost him a solid result.
 
Satisfactory race to watch, unsatisfactory result.

When I saw that Nick was slowly moving up on Hami I thought he had a real chance of snapping up a win, if BMW had gone on extreme wets he most certainly would have. But it was a risk to do that anyway, still though it was a brilliant race for Heidfeld and I'm quite happy to see Rubens up on the podium again.

And lets hope that Lewis Hamilton isn't compared to Ayrton Senna for the rest of the year. But we do have the worst commentary team after all.
 
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