Santander British GP 2008 - Race Buildup, Testing Photos etc.

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Congrats to Hamilton, very good drive. Drive of the day goes to Barrichello though, simply brilliant driving and strategy.

The Ferrari was just atrocious in the wetter conditions, and both drivers had to back off extremely out of the final corner, where that bump caught Massa off-guard three times, and Raikkonen twice.. The only top-driver who wasn't off the track today was Heidfeld.

Kimi's 1st spin was out of Bridge and 2nd on the exit of the final corner. 1st was on his worn inters but 2nd might've been on the new ones, don't remember.

I was screaming at the TV after it started to rain again after Kimi's stop. To me it just seemed rediculous to stay out those 10 laps with crap tyres when the rain only got worse and worse. I guess their weather man is going to be fitted for some cement boots.

As a sidenote, Kimi got his 30th career fastest lap. Tied for 3rd all-time now. 👍
 
Disappointing race, probably because I didn't want Hamilton to win

At least the director barely showed what was happening in the front. Maybe he was Australian. There seemed to be a lot of replays of Webber, but they also showed Massa's spins and everything else.
 
The race-director showed Webber because he did the interesting stuff - he was the big overtaker in the early stages. Massa did the interesting stuff too, with all the spinning. Being a rainy race, most of it included huge gaps between drivers - hell, everyone but the top-3 was lapped by Hamilton - and even though time-gains were on the larger scale of several seconds per lap, it still didn't amount to much overtaking because gaps were also on a larger scale. That being said, overtaking was plentiful, and Silverstone appears to have numerous spots where overtaking seems very possible in the dry, as well.
 
I wonder why they didn't put Massa on the wet tires. Bridgestone should design a tire in between the intermediates and full wets.
 
I think four compounds for three weathers is enough - part of the game is not knowing if your tyres are best for the conditions, and taking a gamble. Massa, remember, was already a lap and a half behind - nothing short of a safety-car and an anti-spin on his Ferrari would've saved his race. As for a few others, I wonder. Midfielders like Alonso and Trulli could've pulled out a podium, but their stay on Inters cost them lots of points - Alonso's tyres wore out too much over the long stint, while Trulli's second pit wasn't the best decision.
 
just watched "Raikkonen pushes a photographer in Silverstone 2008 before the race start."
what a stupid and unnecessary behaviour!


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nice 👍
 
just watched "Raikkonen pushes a photographer in Silverstone 2008 before the race start."
what a stupid and unnecessary behaviour!



:lol:


And the explanations :


It also seems that Ferrari were too busy watching the Tennis than deciding to change tyres... (0:44 seconds)
 
Can anyone find the photo he took while he pushed him?

Edit: Nevermind, found it!

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The paparatzo was standing on his gear and put his camera right in Kimi's face and started snapping. It's not a proper response by Kimi but it isn't like it was unprovoked.
 
The paparatzo was standing on his gear and put his camera right in Kimi's face and started snapping. It's not a proper response by Kimi but it isn't like it was unprovoked.

Couple of things, firstly its was an accredited photographer not a 'paparazzi', they don't just let anyone in. Secondly he was 'protecting' himself?

Sorry but what from exactly, yes this guy may have go a bit close, but certainly nothing more than happens on the much more confined grid as Monaco. More than a little un-professional in my opinion.


Regards

Scaff
 
John, as you have said yourself we already have a discussion thread on the subject of the move to Donnington park, while this thread is solely for the discussion of the actual race.

Can we please keep the two threads on track, otherwise all we will end up doing is having two separate discussions and people will end up having to post twice and/or miss out on points of view and opinions.

Sorry but this is not the place to discuss the move to Donnington.

Thanks

Scaff
 
👍 👍 👍 Wow, unbelievable drive by Hamilton. That kid is an absolute genious in the wet. I have no idea how he was keeping within 3 seconds of Rubens while he was on inters – very very impressive.

👍 👍 Great drive from Rubens, and great call from Brawn. Definitely the highlights of both mens’ careers at Honda so far.

👍 Kimi drove reasonably well, despite a dreadful strategy and a couple of spins he managed to fight up to 4th which keeps him nicely in the hunt.

👎 Heikki was nowhere. He was way way slower than Lewis, and in the same car and on a good strategy he should have done much better than he did.

👎 👎 Coulthard throwing it into the bin along with poor Vettel on the first lap. Not a good way to end his GP career at Silverstone.

👎 👎 👎 Massa… I’m sorry, last place? In a Ferrari? What?
 
Couple of things, firstly its was an accredited photographer not a 'paparazzi', they don't just let anyone in. Secondly he was 'protecting' himself?

Sorry but what from exactly, yes this guy may have go a bit close, but certainly nothing more than happens on the much more confined grid as Monaco. More than a little un-professional in my opinion.


Regards

Scaff

Who said he was protecting himself? The 'ratzo got an inch from his helmet as you see in the video, and was standing on his equipment.

I didn't say it was a warranted response, but I can understand it. No driver wants to be bothered when they are in full preparation mode.
 
👎 👎 👎 Massa… I’m sorry, last place? In a Ferrari? What?

We were watching most of the race from between Stowe and Vale/Club, by about lap 2 or 3 Webber and Massa were running together at the back, whilst Webber went on to pass probably 6 cars in six consecutive laps going into Vale, Massa couldn't get passed any and seemed to just sit behind them all for ages.

I'm sure the Hondas were running some kind of back door traction control. On the turn in to Vale they both sounded to be rapidly misfiring as if the electronics were either stopping the rears from locking up or stopping the revs from dropping too low. None of the other cars sounded anything like the same as the two Hondas. :odd:
 
Honda's engines sound different to everyone else's I noticed that at the test. They had more of a pop and squeal on downshifts as you said that any other.

Im sure it must be all legal though..
 
*snip*
It also seems that Ferrari were too busy watching the Tennis than deciding to change tyres... (0:44 seconds)
Ah great, I totally didn't get to watch it.... :(
Stupid 🤬 piece of 🤬 Internet connection!!!! :mad:
 
Here's an Interview with DC

Exclusive - Coulthard on his preferred successor

It was bound to happen sooner or later, but when Red Bull’s David Coulthard announced he would retire from competitive Formula One racing at the end of the season, it still sent shockwaves throughout the Silverstone paddock. A firm fixture for 14 years, Coulthard will be sorely missed in 2009.

Following his final British Grand Prix, the Scot spoke exclusively to Formula1.com about his retirement, his future plans and who he would like to see take over his Red Bull cockpit...

Q: David, when did you decide that 2008 would be your swansong Formula One season?
David Coulthard: Earlier in the year I had the feeling that the time was going to be right, so there was not one special morning when I woke up and decided. Afterwards I had some conversations with my fiancee Karen (Minier) and then I made up my mind that I had the energy and enthusiasm to finish this season, but I was wondering about starting another. And all of that told me that it was the right time. So I am very happy to stop well before the enjoyment does, rather than wishing I were somewhere else.

Q: Have you competed at races differently this season, knowing that it will be the last time you race on the tracks?
DC: Not really, honestly. If you look at the year so far I was getting involved in little incidents, so I was still fighting. That shows that I am still determined to push all the way until the end. And that maybe costs me a little bit of damage, but I’d rather be seen as still trying, than having given up. But maybe in Monaco, when I was walking home from a friend’s boat, I felt sad that this time was the last time. I really loved the challenge of racing in Monaco.

Q: If you look back at your career, what were the best - and worst - moments?
DC: Of course the best moments are winning. That is a wonderful feeling that can’t be beaten. Outside of winning, the best moments are working with a team of people. There are so many, like engineers and mechanics that are working hard. The worst moments of course are dealing with some of the politics which are involved in Formula One. When I left McLaren after nine seasons I had a tear in my eye at the Brazil race. But I think it is better to leave with some emotions rather than with a feeling of relief. I have had many relationships in my life, both with teams and partners. And every relationship has been full of commitment, energy and love. So I feel very fulfilled in my life so far.

Q: You have driven for many of the front running teams but you never clinched a championship, even though often your team mates did. Why do you think that is?
DC: Well I clearly had the opportunity of driving world championship-winning cars, but I never managed to hold the level of consistency needed to extract every last bit from it, even though I had the speed. And this is now something I just have to deal with for the rest of my life. I won races, and enjoyed a wonderful win at Silverstone, with Michael (Schumacher) and Mika (Hakkinen) standing beside me. Two great champions of Formula One that I was able to beat that day. But it is not only important what a driver does on a Sunday. There is a lot of work away from the track. That was the reason why I enjoyed such a long spell at McLaren. They knew I worked well and I worked hard to bring the team forward.

Q: You have had many team mates throughout your Formula One career. Have any become longstanding friends?
DC: Well, I don’t have regular contact with any of my former team mates. Maybe because of a special reason that I can’t describe. But there is always a bond that does not go away.

Q: Alongside your racing career, you have also built up a successful life as a businessman. Where will your skills take you in the future? And where will Formula One racing be in your future plans?
DC: Yes, you are right. I have several investment projects like my four hotels and my helmet project. Formula One has given me a very good life and I am very thankful for that. My primary interest still lies within motorsport and within Formula One, so I have agreed to become a consultant with Red Bull Racing. Also on the side of the media, I can contribute a lot, as I have the knowledge of what its like inside a team.

Q: You will leave your Red Bull cockpit after the chequered flag in Brazil. Who do you hope will fill it?
DC: For me Sebastian Vettel has everything that a future winner in Formula One needs. Also his maturity and approach shows me that he is the best man for the job. So I am very confident that he would be able to do a very good job for Red Bull Racing.

Q: Before Lewis Hamilton’s victory at Silverstone on Sunday, you were the last British driver to win the British Grand Prix. Are you sad that there is now another Brit on the list of winners at the track?
DC: No, absolutely not. I did not mind that Lewis (Hamilton) won the race. It was great for British motorsport. It was sad that my last running on this track was over on Lap One, but then again - that’s racing - the victory of nerve and flexibility over pure strategy.
 
I'm sure the Hondas were running some kind of back door traction control. On the turn in to Vale they both sounded to be rapidly misfiring as if the electronics were either stopping the rears from locking up or stopping the revs from dropping too low. None of the other cars sounded anything like the same as the two Hondas. :odd:

The Honda engine has sounded very rough for a number of years – especially at lower revs. I noticed it in 2006 and this year when I’ve attended GPs, and a friend who went to the Aussie GP in 2005 also notes the same thing. I have no idea why.
 
Who said he was protecting himself? The 'ratzo got an inch from his helmet as you see in the video, and was standing on his equipment.
His manager did, in the video that has now (not surprisingly) been taken down from youtube.

I would also disagree that he was within an inch of his helmet, he was close yes, but no closer than photographers get to almost all drivers. Martin Brundle rams a big microphone closer to drivers faces on the grid of every GP.


I didn't say it was a warranted response, but I can understand it. No driver wants to be bothered when they are in full preparation mode.
They may not want it, but they have to live with it (unless the FIA are going to close the grid to all but teams).

I also do have to say that if almost any other driver had done it the fall out would have been much greater (but then again I think the same about the whole exhaust hanging off incident - almost any other team would have had to pull the car into the pits and remove it). It wasn't needed and from a driver with this much experience, very surprising.


Regards

Scaff
 
As I understand it the photographer stepped on some of the equipment around the car.
 
I would also disagree that he was within an inch of his helmet, he was close yes, but no closer than photographers get to almost all drivers. Martin Brundle rams a big microphone closer to drivers faces on the grid of every GP.

Actually you could see in the video that the camera hit his helmet. If that is allowed then I'll eat my hat.
 
Q: You have driven for many of the front running teams but you never clinched a championship, even though often your team mates did. Why do you think that is?
DC: Well I clearly had the opportunity of driving world championship-winning cars, but I never managed to hold the level of consistency needed to extract every last bit from it, even though I had the speed. And this is now something I just have to deal with for the rest of my life. I won races, and enjoyed a wonderful win at Silverstone, with Michael (Schumacher) and Mika (Hakkinen) standing beside me. Two great champions of Formula One that I was able to beat that day.

It takes some courage to say this, even when your F1 career is about to end. Cheers, Mr. Coulthard, you had a long career and one that you can be proud of.
 

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