Saving in Endurance races

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How long does a full tank and tyres last in 3 times faster mode? Could i leave an endurance in B spec around an hour without being there to supervise?
 
I saw that too Sven. The thing is when ever you pit in it goes back to normal speed. So even if it pits automatically you wont get as far as you would if you had just been sitting there watching it. Then again it doesn't really matter if your sleeping.

But on another note I'm pretty sure every pit in gives you a full tank of gas automatically but what about tires and oil? If they do full service it might be a good idea if you where 4-5 laps ahead and could risk going 80km/h for a lap but if it happened alot you might also screw yourself and if it doesn't auto pit you might screw yourself. or if it does auto pit and doesnt change the tires or oil you might screw yourself.

It just sounds to risky to me with out having full details on what happens in B-spec mode with the AI.

:EDIT: I type slow what can I say. I see now that 1twojay answered alot of stuff.
 
24 hours is almost impossible. With school if I got 3 hours a day, I would have to race 8 days. I guess I will have to leave it for summer and maybe I can get three 8 hour sessions. Maybe if I'm crazy I will go for it in 2 days. I don't like this, because I usually do the endurances earlier in the game.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
24 hours is almost impossible. With school if I got 3 hours a day, I would have to race 8 days. I guess I will have to leave it for summer and maybe I can get three 8 hour sessions. Maybe if I'm crazy I will go for it in 2 days. I don't like this, because I usually do the endurances earlier in the game.

The "earliest" you can start with enduro's is 25% into the game. So at your pace, you can probably start playing them by this summer. :lol:
 
05_Stang
I saw that too Sven. The thing is when ever you pit in it goes back to normal speed. So even if it pits automatically you wont get as far as you would if you had just been sitting there watching it. Then again it doesn't really matter if your sleeping.

But on another note I'm pretty sure every pit in gives you a full tank of gas automatically but what about tires and oil? If they do full service it might be a good idea if you where 4-5 laps ahead and could risk going 80km/h for a lap but if it happened alot you might also screw yourself and if it doesn't auto pit you might screw yourself. or if it does auto pit and doesnt change the tires or oil you might screw yourself.
Sleep + School gets me maybe 18 or so hours to just let the thing sit and run itself out, so even on normal speed I'll be able to get several races done without missing a beat. I'll just have to find a car that will be sure to win on pace 3 with several 80km/h bits...

I forgot about oil. In GT3 oil went to crap in what, 150 miles? So without oil changes you could be doing 22 hours or so of a race on bad oil...
 
I've left my PS2 on for days and played for 12-16 hour days sometimes and I've never had any problems with it. I bought my PS2 in September 2001. When did they come out anyway?
 
24 Hours straight sitting in front of a screen - they can't be right, thats ridiculous (and not healthy ie. Food, fresh air, toilet etc. etc.)

It this IS the case - I'd suggest that everyone get over at least 4 friends to help. (ie. one person do four hours, next person does 4 hours etc. etc. just like real 24 hour races....still very stupid though)

I don't care how good GT4 - and its going to great I know - I'd never do it.

a. Don't have the time.

b. Even if I had the time, I wouldn't sit in front of a screen for 24 hours straight. Like I said earlier, its unhealthy!


I just can't believe that this would be the case.
 
N.J.
24 Hours straight sitting in front of a screen - they can't be right, thats ridiculous (and not healthy ie. Food, fresh air, toilet etc. etc.)

It this IS the case - I'd suggest that everyone get over at least 4 friends to help. (ie. one person do four hours, next person does 4 hours etc. etc. just like real 24 hour races....still very stupid though)

I don't care how good GT4 - and its going to great I know - I'd never do it.

a. Don't have the time.

b. Even if I had the time, I wouldn't sit in front of a screen for 24 hours straight. Like I said earlier, its unhealthy!


I just can't believe that this would be the case.

Don't be so stubborn. Once you start you won't stop until your eyeballs roll out
 
Its the sort of thing i would do if i had the time. but i simply dont. If it does have a save fuction hidden i will complete it 100%. If not i dont see how a can ever achieve it unless i do b spec mode
 
Stune
Its actually worse for the new ps2s becouse they dont have big exaust fans at the back helping them to cool down. They actually say having them on for more than 10 hours in warm weather conditions isnt to be recondoned, they automaticly shut down if they get to hot, to stop them form overheating all together

you forget the REASON why the new slim PStwo don't have a fan... it's because they run so cool, they don't need one, they run on a smaller process, at the same speed the old ones did.. this means, less leakage, a lot less, id be very surprised if they got hotter than the old PS2 chips that had a fan.
 
In my opinion it's sickening that you can't save in the 24 hours long races... only the most die-hard no life having Japanese Gran Turismo groupies can finish the game at 100% this way. Besides that simply the health reasons already make this idea sick, I hope they'll implement a save feature before releasing the European version.

I played the first Gran Turismo and the second one to death, never got GT3 (almost 1.5 years ago) because I thought part 4 was almost coming out.... I liked the endurance races but 2 hours to me was enough already for one day. With a saving option in the pits it would be possible for me to finish it, but hell.... without saves I won't, even though I'd hate not winning every race.


Haha can you imagine it happening that in the final minute of the 24h race an opponent catches up with you and becomes first. Lots of suicidal GT players and PS2 controllers flying through windows.
 
1twojay
Don't be so stubborn. Once you start you won't stop until your eyeballs roll out

Mate - if I looked a screen any longer than 4 or 5 hours, I think my eyes WOULD roll out :)

It would have to be one awesome game to have me sitting there any longer.
 
That's why you get a buddy, and take shifts doing it. Take for example the Nurburgring 24 hours, every, let's say 2-4 pit stops you switch drivers, go take a cat nap, and then go at it again. Now, when GT3 first came out, I used to sit there literally all day and play it (true, I was young, had no job, no girlfriend, so I could afford to do so) but now, I have a job, go to university, have a girlfriend, however, I am going to MAKE TIME to do the 24 hour race at Nurburgring, in A-Spec mode, just because it will be even that more special. The other 24 hour races I can deal with doing in B-Spec mode (except maybe Le Mans) but I am definitely doing the 'Ring in A-Spec :crazy:
 
Majarvis
That's why you get a buddy, and take shifts doing it. Take for example the Nurburgring 24 hours, every, let's say 2-4 pit stops you switch drivers, go take a cat nap, and then go at it again.

Sounds like a good idea, but I wouldn't trust anyone else's driving skills (in the game, that is) but my own.
 
MrktMkr1986
Sounds like a good idea, but I wouldn't trust anyone else's driving skills (in the game, that is) but my own.
This is true, however, I would qualify myself (assuming you can qualify for that race) presumably get pole (since I know the track off by heart not only from GPL, but also PGR2, so I wouldn't need to learn it like a brand new track, just perfect it), do the opening stint, and hand it off to my friend, who is also of about the same skill level as me, so I would feel at ease with him driving.
But I know what you mean :)
 
SaintKamus
you forget the REASON why the new slim PStwo don't have a fan... it's because they run so cool, they don't need one, they run on a smaller process, at the same speed the old ones did.. this means, less leakage, a lot less, id be very surprised if they got hotter than the old PS2 chips that had a fan.

To tell you, the Slimline PS2 does have a fan in it. If you look into the back vent, past the heat shields, there is a little fan right at the front on top.

I've seen it by taking a LED pen light and looking in there.

Jeramy
 
Glad to see there's lots of other people sharing my concern. However it does seem pretty definitive now that a save option was neglected :(
 
The thing is i spend practily all my spare time on videogames and GT4 is my most avaited game so i know im gonna spend alot of time on it but not all at once. There isnt ever going to be a stage in my life where I have 24hours at once to do this edurance race let alone 3 of them. Doing the 8 hour way by B spec would just be possible just i would imagine, but i cant help thinking it would ruin the fun a bit and make me feel like ive cheated the system a bit.
Its not that i cant be bothered becouese i most certainly can but i will simply never had that kind off time on my hands at once
 
SaintKamus
you forget the REASON why the new slim PStwo don't have a fan... it's because they run so cool, they don't need one, they run on a smaller process, at the same speed the old ones did.. this means, less leakage, a lot less, id be very surprised if they got hotter than the old PS2 chips that had a fan.
If you put a bunch of working electronical devices in a box and put a teenie tiny fan inside (IE psTwo) and then you put another bunch of working electronical devices in a box and put a large fan inside (IE ps2) the ps2 will run cooler than the psTwo under heavy load. Regardless of this, I will still have a fan behind mine blowing cool air to keep the temps down.

Rule of Thumb: When doing endurance races in GT4 ALWAYS save prior to the start.
 
I've been thinking, durin a championship race if you quit out of it the game won't let you do anything on the world map, like tune your car of get in another one in your garage, and askes would you like to return to the championship and continue from the next race.

Now has anybody tried this durin' the 24 races?

Can somebody with access to the Enduros try this, (I'm only 5.5% in and can't try it myself), start a race, do a few laps then quit out, with auto save on the game should save your progress, reset the machine, then try doing something and see if the "can't do anything" warning message comes up and returns you to the race??? Or try going back to the race through the race menu screens???

I'm hoping that may work???
 
Oh God. THERE IS NO SODDING SAVE. Stop fantasizing already!

Besides, what would the bloody point of a 24hrs race be if you could SAVE in the middle of it? Think about it.
 
Plopper
I've been thinking, durin a championship race if you quit out of it the game won't let you do anything on the world map, like tune your car of get in another one in your garage, and askes would you like to return to the championship and continue from the next race.

Now has anybody tried this durin' the 24 races?

Can somebody with access to the Enduros try this, (I'm only 5.5% in and can't try it myself), start a race, do a few laps then quit out, with auto save on the game should save your progress, reset the machine, then try doing something and see if the "can't do anything" warning message comes up and returns you to the race??? Or try going back to the race through the race menu screens???

I'm hoping that may work???

Its a long shot but somone should try it
 
Stune
Its a long shot but somone should try it

Not a long shot, since that's been done yesterday along with the other tests, or else how can I go back to the menu screens and play some other races. And for sure you knew the answer already.
 
I just finished the 24 Nur track.. using B-spec. Slept twice just waiting for it.

I wouldn't dare to imagine if I were using A-spec! Should be weeks before I actually finish that 24 hours!
It's just crazy to stare at the screen for that long!
 
Majarvis
That's why you get a buddy, and take shifts doing it. Take for example the Nurburgring 24 hours, every, let's say 2-4 pit stops you switch drivers, go take a cat nap, and then go at it again. Now, when GT3 first came out, I used to sit there literally all day and play it (true, I was young, had no job, no girlfriend, so I could afford to do so) but now, I have a job, go to university, have a girlfriend, however, I am going to MAKE TIME to do the 24 hour race at Nurburgring, in A-Spec mode, just because it will be even that more special. The other 24 hour races I can deal with doing in B-Spec mode (except maybe Le Mans) but I am definitely doing the 'Ring in A-Spec :crazy:

I suppose I would be willing to help my friend out if he asked me to take alternating driving stints for the endurance races in A-Spec. But when you make a commitment like that just for your buddy to get that sliver of completion percentage and another car for their garage, it doesn't seem like much reward. I love my friends and all, but I don't know if I want to spend alternating weekends with them just to get the completion percentage. Endurance races were one of my favorite segments of GT games, but an 8 hr enduro seems like it would be plenty.
 
knowing Kazunori, I am sure he wants us to do the 24h thing as if it were a real endurance race, so you'll have to ask for the help of at least another driver. the only thing I find annoying with this is that you're left without any other choice(except for B-Spec). the other thing that I find amazing is not having confirmation of the existence of saves... yet.
 
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