shortcuts?

[440cuda9sec]

I'm sure many people have discovered that at the end of trial mountain normal, there is an s-turn that has a grassy area in the middle. though, with license tests, you would be disqualified, in races, you can cut through this to make it easier on yourself, or to gain some time, it's something that i have been doin since the early days. Also, the back of fuji 90's has a turn that can be bipassed by goin through grass. I wanted to know if anyone else uses these and more, and if it is deemed exceptable by the commune?

 

[daan]

shortcuts are bad, mmmkay.

 

[Oliver_Newton]

So what skill do you gain by using shortcuts? 👎 I'm not a shortcut person.

 

[El Gigante]

Yeah man you shouldn't cheat with shortcuts, plus driving on grass could make you spin out and mess up the entire race

 

[bigjoe]

I used them, and others, in my early days in GT3 but I found that taking the corner correctly is almost as fast, and sometimes even faster, than cheating. But, if you are at the stage where you have to cheat to win, go for it. Eventually you will become a better driver and find you no longer need to cheat. I try hard in GT4 to run all the tracks correctly. Only place I had to cheat so far was mission 34 and the ice races. Someday I expect to go back and do them right as well...

 

[Old Geezer]

I'm sure many people have discovered that at the end of trial mountain normal, there is an s-turn that has a grassy area in the middle. though, with license tests, you would be disqualified, in races, you can cut through this to make it easier on yourself, or to gain some time, it's something that i have been doin since the early days. Also, the back of fuji 90's has a turn that can be bipassed by goin through grass. I wanted to know if anyone else uses these and more, and if it is deemed exceptable by the commune?

Unfortunately that's why REPLAYS are Required at most OLR Competitons. So Cheaters need NOT bother to enter ...O.G.

 

[ferrari_chris]

... deemed exceptable by the commune?

Hmmm, nout sure about exceptable - acceptable however is a different story.

Not in my book. I'd rather get a faster car, and stay on the track than race for A-Spec points and have to cheat. IMO if you're cheating like that, you're obviously only playing the game to reach a goal (ie: to get 100%), but I play the game for fun. Where's the fun in cheating to win. Sure you cross the finish line first, but did you win?

NOT ACCEPTABLE from this member!

 

[VT]

👎

I have never used shortcuts since I started playing GT way back in 1998. It absolutely disgusts me that people cheat to pick up a few seconds. If you can't race a track correctly you need to learn the proper line for that track, not look for ways to cheat.

I have no respect for cheaters, you included.

 

[chinko]

cheating takes all the fun away!

 

[spykerdriver]

You could die if you cheat!

 

[DuckRacer]

I'm sure many people have discovered that at the end of trial mountain normal, there is an s-turn that has a grassy area in the middle. though, with license tests, you would be disqualified, in races, you can cut through this to make it easier on yourself, or to gain some time, it's something that i have been doin since the early days. Also, the back of fuji 90's has a turn that can be bipassed by goin through grass. I wanted to know if anyone else uses these and more, and if it is deemed exceptable by the commune?

Cheater, cheater, cheater. 👎

In case you haven't noticed, people hate cheaters.

 

[azmati]

I'm sure many people have discovered that at the end of trial mountain normal, there is an s-turn that has a grassy area in the middle. though, with license tests, you would be disqualified, in races, you can cut through this to make it easier on yourself, or to gain some time, it's something that i have been doin since the early days. Also, the back of fuji 90's has a turn that can be bipassed by goin through grass. I wanted to know if anyone else uses these and more, and if it is deemed exceptable by the commune?

Sarth I's chicains are short cutable.
I do my best to stay away from using them, however some situations all for drastic measures.

 

[FWA2500]

the only time i have "cheated" was on on LeMans I at the first chicaine downt he Mulsanne......it was one of those "OH ****!!!" moments when your flying at 220mph and realize you are not on LeMans II after you pass the 50 metre marker and end up sideways through the grassin the chicaine at 180mph..........

ya......

my friend tried that trick at trial mountain when he was racing against me........he was in a slightly more powerfull car too and i still won by flinging the car through the chicaine at 115mph (it is possible, you just have to know when to let off the gas and turn in then floor it again).......you slow down in the grass, beleive it or not.......lol

 

[JFM92_GTRacer]

I'm sure many people have discovered that at the end of trial mountain normal, there is an s-turn that has a grassy area in the middle. though, with license tests, you would be disqualified, in races, you can cut through this to make it easier on yourself, or to gain some time, it's something that i have been doin since the early days. Also, the back of fuji 90's has a turn that can be bipassed by goin through grass. I wanted to know if anyone else uses these and more, and if it is deemed exceptable by the commune?

never EVER use shortcuts! it's ashamed that you've been using it since the "early days".

 

[440cuda9sec]

alright then. I am sorry for the typo., and also my recent use of shortcuts, shortly after the post, i played and found that drifting the turns and applying skill is much more fun than risking the possible wreck. Now the grassy shortcut area's will only be used for donuts.

 

[ferrari_chris]

alright then. I am sorry for the typo., and also my recent use of shortcuts, shortly after the post, i played and found that drifting the turns and applying skill is much more fun than risking the possible wreck. Now the grassy shortcut area's will only be used for donuts.

That's more like it.

I'm glad we've helped you see the light...

 

[zPhoenix]

Shortcuts are of course bad in racing... in real life you'd throughly mess up your car.

But in a game... depends on what you are racing for. When simulating a real race, I of course don't use them.

But sometimes I race just for fun... then I enjoy finding and using shortcuts (or not so obvious long-cuts in some cases). The same goes for knocking down cones... who would do it in a real race? But it sure is fun.

I also find these things help fight boredom when I discover after 30 minutes driving that I over-powered my car for an A-spec endurance race.

Enjoy the wild side of GT4!!!

 

[VT]

Yeah those cones just annoy me. I once managed to knock a cone all the way around Grand Valley in one of the enduros there. That was pretty funny.

I have a grudge against every single cone on every single track for the most part. Cones BEWARE!!!!!!!!

 

[toke81]

i pride myself on not cheating...however driving mission 34 i got so frustrated with that i went over the two grassy knolls (i dont know the names of the corners, lay off, im sure most know what im talking about). i beat the gullwing by .034 seconds. only time i've ever cheated in an actual race and i'm sure glad i did cause i would not want to wait out that 123 seconds ever again. 👍

 

[zPhoenix]

Yeah those cones just annoy me. I once managed to knock a cone all the way around Grand Valley in one of the enduros there. That was pretty funny.

I have a grudge against every single cone on every single track for the most part. Cones BEWARE!!!!!!!!

For the king of all cone-knocking rides, try the endurance race in GT3 that plays in Rome (can't remember the name). But we should get back to topic... shortcuts.

 

[niky]

I use shortcuts. Against the computer. When I'm playing against much faster cars. I use shortcuts. Not all the time, but sometimes. 99% of the time, I don't use them.

When I'm playing serious, though (in Real-Life competitions). I DON'T. PERIOD. Unfortunately, I lose those competitions because everyone else is wall-banging, punting other drivers into the sandtraps, and grass-mowing like crazy. ...but it's all in good fun.

 

[mprata]

When I'm driving in a Grand Canyon and Chamonix I cheat 👎 because I'm not skilled enough to win these tracks without cheating but in a tarmac course I never do any type of cheating

 

[stumpydino]

if the opportunity is there... i never had a race where i needed to, and its only gonna shave a little bit of time and chances are itll set you up wrong for the line for the next corner and youll have to correct yourself anyway

 

[Corvette]

never EVER use shortcuts! it's ashamed that you've been using it since the "early days".

Well, some people consider that if you are using shortcut, you are cheating. That is one way to see it. To me, I consider that putting Nitro or putting a stage 3 turbo to win an easy race is cheating.

 

[Number1_Drifter]

Using short cuts will not help u to get any better. Try to run the track and get faster at it, don't take the short cuts. K?

 

[Dr_Watson]

Yeah those cones just annoy me. I once managed to knock a cone all the way around Grand Valley in one of the enduros there. That was pretty funny.

I have a grudge against every single cone on every single track for the most part. Cones BEWARE!!!!!!!!

ever play NFS Porsche unleashed?
that game had the most entertaining cone physics ever.

 

[Alfaholic]

Firstly, any professional racer with a desire to win will bounce over grass, bounce off walls, ignore chicanes and drive down escape roads if it all got them to the finish line quicker, and they could make it to the finish line before their car broke, and if they didn't have officials penalising them for doing it. Finding the fastest possible route around a race track that you and your car can succesfully navigate is not cheating, it's winning. Sometimes it's just less challenging than keeping it all on tarmac.

I remember when Senna purposefully went into a corner way too fast, knowing that he was going to lose control and probably wreck his car but also knowing that he was going to cross the start / finish line before falling off the track, and set a fastest qualifying lap because everyone else drove the last corner in a conventional (and therefore slower) manner. That behaviour was called genius a lot more than it was called cheating. I can't remember the track or the year. But he did it. He crashed ON PURPOSE to improve his qualifying time, because it was possible given his equipment and the track layout, and there was no rule against it. Such behaviour by a contributor on this forum would have him slagged off for the next thirty posts, but as Senna's example shows, "cheating" is not a reliable indicator of a lack of skill. If it's not against the rules, it's not cheating. It's lateral thinking.

Schumacher has proven himself to be a particularly skillful racer and also not above cheating, for that matter. So if any of you outspoken anti -cheaters out there are Senna or Schumacher fans, you might want to rethink your role models

As for shortcuts, you can chop the chicane on the Twin Ring course used for the Suzuki Concepts race at full speed. You can also chop the particularly slow verge at the top of the hill at Nurb, and on Misison 34, if you do not brake when you should after the long straight near the end, you stand half a chance of spinning into the 300SL and knocking him off the track. By the time you hit him your time penalty will be nearly finished and with a bit of luck you should have it all pointing the right way before the SL recovers. My first successful Mission 34 run saw the 300SL finish third..

 

[daan]

I remember when Senna purposefully went into a corner way too fast, knowing that he was going to lose control and probably wreck his car but also knowing that he was going to cross the start / finish line before falling off the track, and set a fastest qualifying lap because everyone else drove the last corner in a conventional (and therefore slower) manner. That behaviour was called genius a lot more than it was called cheating. I can't remember the track or the year. But he did it. He crashed ON PURPOSE to improve his qualifying time, because it was possible given his equipment and the track layout, and there was no rule against it.

That was at Magny Cours. The finish line was just after the last corner. Senna deliberately went too fast through the corner and spun on the exit. He crossed the line before he spun and he didn't hit anything, but he got pole position.

 

[ferrari_chris]

And Schumacher's instances of cheating? (except for taking out Damon Hill(?) in Australia)

 

[Alfaholic]

That was at Magny Cours. The finish line was just after the last corner. Senna deliberately went too fast through the corner and spun on the exit. He crossed the line before he spun and he didn't hit anything, but he got pole position.

Thanks Daan. I didn't remember if he actually crashed into anything or just spun it.

His action did inspire my Gold run for the A8 license (El Capitan, Mazda RX8).
Turning scrubs off speed, and the finish line is just beyond a fast left hand kink. Turning into that kink on a racing lap in the RX8 will see some speed scrubbed off to lateral movement even when on full throttle - so I only just turned enough to make it across the finish line, but not enough to actually make it around the corner. No tyre squeel and no speed loss, but a big crunch when I hit the bridge wall just beyond the finish line. It was worth a tenth or two. - so there's another "shortcut" for the list