Should I give in to duping?

[GT Motion]

I have been trying to stay away from "duping" because personally I enjoy earning cars rather than trading them and duplicating them etc.

After doing some trades on the marketplace section I can see that duping is now the normal thing to do, people want cars with 0 miles in multiple colors etc.

I am not really trying to grow a big collection, but what does entice me to dupe, is having multiple cars setup for online. I have ran into quite a few lobbies where the host changes the Kg/Hp and I no longer have a car to us. I am also trying to get race cars to use online and they are so expensive per car, that without duping its hard to have enough race cars to keep up with the lobby changes. I now have a few race cars but somehow I keep finding restrictions that give competitors the edge because they have a full garage of race cars to choose from and I am just here with my few JGTC cars with limited custom-ability.

The main reason I was against duping was because I felt cars that were once hard to get are no longer hard to get, and when you used to go online, it was nice to see rare cars treated as rare, not as a common car like they are now.

I am thinking about just giving in, I am not trying to abuse it, but I do need more race cars. If it wasn't so common I would stay away, but it seems like this is just the new way to play GT5 I guess.

 

[Crumpet]

I wouldn't suggest duping, I've never cheated in a GT game, and it will stay like that.

 

[LeftyWright69]

When in Rome..... lol

 

[dabest2500]

I gave into duping.
Why?
Because it saves a lot of grinding time, time that could be used to improve your own racing skills.

 

[Exorcet]

but what does entice me to dupe, is having multiple cars setup for online. I have ran into quite a few lobbies where the host changes the Kg/Hp and I no longer have a car to us.

You're wasting your time. It's quicker to set up your car manually. Maybe you could get away with weight restriction versions of cars (stock, 1, 2, 3), but it's a waste of favorite slots generally and can take as long as setting up your car.

I am also trying to get race cars to use online and they are so expensive per car, that without duping its hard to have enough race cars to keep up with the lobby changes. I now have a few race cars but somehow I keep finding restrictions that give competitors the edge because they have a full garage of race cars to choose from and I am just here with my few JGTC cars with limited custom-ability.

Super GT is a common room online. Very fun, and requires no upgrades to JGTC and Super GT cars. Look for/create such a room.

Duping will help you get more race cars though, and I encourage you to do it since you'll be helping the online community. It's a shame when someone has a great race idea and then they can't implement it because someone is missing a car.

Tips for duping

Buy a car, and tune it with all removeable upgrades before sending it to main. If anything else, at least do this for tires. It's ridiculous that PD forces you to buy the right tires for an online race when the tire choice can change at any time.

 

[GT Motion]

You're wasting your time. It's quicker to set up your car manually. Maybe you could get away with weight restriction versions of cars (stock, 1, 2, 3), but it's a waste of favorite slots generally and can take as long as setting up your car.

I set my cars up with removable upgrades but often find myself with not enough for all the different possibilities. We have been running rooms where the winner picks the HP and last place picks the weight, you could only imagine how many times I was using a recommended car or a severely under classed car because I couldn't make any of my cars fit the requirement. I am not saying I want the same car 10 times with different tunes, I am saying I want several different cars with different weights and different powers.

 

[Dodswm]

i've just got one extra account and treat myself to one "free" car a day... it is duping, but i'd like to collect all the cars i can, so this helps me along!

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I gave into duping.
Why?
Because it saves a lot of grinding time, time that could be used to improve your own racing skills.

👍

I got tired of grinding Indy just to get money and after 1 non-stop hour of driving the ZR1 in an oval, I just couldn't take it anymore. I use the money trick everytime I see a car I would like that costs millions of credits in the UCD, and I'm actually more happy with the game now.

Sure, you can only do this once a day, but that's way better than while grinding for credits you see a very expensive car you want in the UCD, but you're just going to have let it disappear because you have no where near the amount of money at the time.

 

[BoneSawTX]

Just do it, you paid for the game and if you think your going to have more fun as a result then go for it. It's not like your using Hybrid Frankenstein cars, driving through walls or any hacks, your duping cars. I don't do it and have no problem with the people doing it, doesn't affect me in anyway.

 

[Exorcet]

I set my cars up with removable upgrades but often find myself with not enough for all the different possibilities. We have been running rooms where the winner picks the HP and last place picks the weight, you could only imagine how many times I was using a recommended car or a severely under classed car because I couldn't make any of my cars fit the requirement. I am not saying I want the same car 10 times with different tunes, I am saying I want several different cars with different weights and different powers.

I see. I much prefer static rooms where the only thing that changes is the track. I've never really had the problem of going from competitive to unable to find a suitable car. A bigger challenge than getting the cars in that case is having only 100 favorites. I once found a guy running a room that seemed perfectly set up for his min weight RX-7 (and he had every right to do that). I didn't have a car that was totally competitive, even in my full offline garage.

In another case I entered a low hp race hoping to use one of my newly acquired touring cars, however the host informed me that it was road cars only. I spent 3-4 races looking for a car in my garage before giving up and buying one before re-entering the room.

To me, randomly changing race rules make no sense because they do not help create competitive races. I think the whole point of online is close competition, so I just stay away from rooms that don't seem focused on that.

To the person below, see my sig.

 

[naughtyaudio]

How do i get a second account to do it?

 

[brambos]

I am trading duped cars. Why? Because I now have a nice set of cars to enjoy GT5 with before the fun wears off.

Being able to choose from a garage of shiny LM and Group C cars made the game a lot more fun for me. Even grinding LikeTheWind/Dreamcars/American Championship is now fun because I get to pick different cars and try to set them up for the fastest lap times etc.

And since I don't play online nobody is negatively affected by it.

 

[Tommy_861]

I see. I much prefer static rooms where the only thing that changes is the track. I've never really had the problem of going from competitive to unable to find a suitable car. A bigger challenge than getting the cars in that case is having only 100 favorites. I once found a guy running a room that seemed perfectly set up for his min weight RX-7 (and he had every right to do that). I didn't have a car that was totally competitive, even in my full offline garage.

In another case I entered a low hp race hoping to use one of my newly acquired touring cars, however the host informed me that it was road cars only. I spent 3-4 races looking for a car in my garage before giving up and buying one before re-entering the room.

To me, randomly changing race rules make no sense because they do not help create competitive races. I think the whole point of online is close competition, so I just stay away from rooms that don't seem focused on that.

To the person below, see my sig.

I agree on static rooms, I just think that with a room constantly changing it would always end up favoring that one guy that has a car perfectly set up for it. Even if you duped all 1031 cars and all were available online (which they aren't with only 100 favorites) you wouldn't have every car good to go (mods, suspension setup etc) vs what other people may have.

I personally stick to rooms that have a certain setting and thats it. If I don't have a car that matches, I just try a different room. I have cars that I like in my favorites set up with certain suspension/etc, and stage 2 and 3 turbos to adjust the HP to suit the room, and then I have my favorite of each kind of race car (and 2 NASCARS 1 for road 1 for oval). It works pretty well.

 

[Ya Pops]

Just do it. Moral arguments over how you get cars in a video game are redundant and pointless.
You're not stealing, scamming or affecting anyone else and it helps you get more enjoyment at the end of the day.

Ignore the puritans. They're all miserable if you hadn't noticed

 

[tribolik]

I have been trying to stay away from "duping" because personally I enjoy earning cars rather than trading them and duplicating them etc.

After doing some trades on the marketplace section I can see that duping is now the normal thing to do, people want cars with 0 miles in multiple colors etc.

I am not really trying to grow a big collection, but what does entice me to dupe, is having multiple cars setup for online. I have ran into quite a few lobbies where the host changes the Kg/Hp and I no longer have a car to us. I am also trying to get race cars to use online and they are so expensive per car, that without duping its hard to have enough race cars to keep up with the lobby changes. I now have a few race cars but somehow I keep finding restrictions that give competitors the edge because they have a full garage of race cars to choose from and I am just here with my few JGTC cars with limited custom-ability.

The main reason I was against duping was because I felt cars that were once hard to get are no longer hard to get, and when you used to go online, it was nice to see rare cars treated as rare, not as a common car like they are now.

I am thinking about just giving in, I am not trying to abuse it, but I do need more race cars. If it wasn't so common I would stay away, but it seems like this is just the new way to play GT5 I guess.

If it helps you take better advantage and enjoy more
of the game you bought and payed for and if doing it doesnt hurt anyone and isnt a crime, them I really cant see why shouldnt you do it.

Just make sure that the backup file you have on your usb device isnt corrupt before overwriting. because that happened to me once and fortunatly I checked and only lost a car.

 

[magburner]

I don't see the problem with it. I gave in, and it was the game what made me do it!

Recently, my GT5 save corrupted, and I had to reinstall the whole thing. After everything was said and done, I went to my garage, and I was light, by so many cars... It took me a while to figure it out, but all my chrom-line, and stealth cars from my signature edition, had gone. Everything, the tens of thousands I had spent upgrading each of them, the thousands of miles I had driven in my favoured few, as well as all history of changes, mileage, and race wins were nowhere to be found. You can imagine how miffed I was, so...

If PD are going to treat their cars like objects with no value, then they shouldn't wonder why others do so too!

Admittedly, I could re-download them from the store, but that is not the point. They were part of my garage, and should have been saved with the rest of my cars. Is this how DLC cars will be handled? I hope not! 👍

 

[GT Motion]

I think I am going to stay away from duping, its going to ruin the offline play of the game for me if I get every car for free. I don't mine trading cars I earned or paid for, I am not really down for getting a garage full of cars I didn't earn. Its just personal preference, thanks for the input guys.

 

[DOUQA]

Yes.

 

[Kwicko]

If you're a purist, then even doing it ONCE is "cheating" and abusing it.

That said, though... who cares?

I can see your reasons for wanting to "give in" and dupe, and they're as valid as anyone's, really.

I've been wishing for a while now that GT5 had the A, B, and C tunes that you could set up and save. I used to have tunes for Daytona SS, Trial Mountain, The 'Ring, etc., so when I got there I just had to swap from A to B, or B to C, etc.

For me, having to go and reset so many parameters takes a lot of the fun out of the game, so I can see why you'd want so many tunes.

For myself, I recently had to get rid of a bunch of credits to clear out room under the 20m cap, so I bought four different Lexus LF-As, in different colors. I don't even like the car, to be honest, but it was there, and I didn't have one yet, so what the heck... But now I could have one setup for four different kinds of events if I so desired.

I say "DO IT!"

 

[TurboProp]

Just do it, the guilt goes away after a few beers...

 

[lancia delta hf]

I think I am going to stay away from duping, its going to ruin the offline play of the game for me if I get every car for free. I don't mine trading cars I earned or paid for, I am not really down for getting a garage full of cars I didn't earn. Its just personal preference, thanks for the input guys.

i bougth this game to enjoy the cars as much as anything, now i can do that thanks to the back up save, if you could not gift yourself a car i would have been sick of this game by now by the constant grinding just to enjoy a a car a like but what if i grinded for ages to buy a 4-6-10-20 million credit car only to find i dont like it at all? its up to you but i would say do it and enjoy the game more

 

[Wiggs]

It's a game...play it how you want to play it...the way you play your game doesn't affect me in any way, shape, or form.

 

[GT Motion]

I've been wishing for a while now that GT5 had the A, B, and C tunes that you could set up and save. I used to have tunes for Daytona SS, Trial Mountain, The 'Ring, etc., so when I got there I just had to swap from A to B, or B to C, etc.

I hope they NEVER adopt a system like this that was in Forza...it completely ruins online racing by allowing "class killers". One car, that dominates each class, and every online race has everyone only using that car, its ridiculous and not fun.

Power/Weight ratio is how it should be, thats how it is in real life, thats how it should be in the game.

I do however wish they would put in parameters to have "street cars only" or something, so if you put a lower weight with high power they can't enter with a race car.

 

[Exorcet]

I hope they NEVER adopt a system like this that was in Forza

The Forza system is actually better. The flaw with Forza is that they made the class gaps insanely wide, which knocks out certain cars. There weren't really any class killers in Forza, but "tier groups". Groups of cars better than others, but not a lone single car (or maybe there was in lower levels, I didn't race those classes much).

GT5 on the other hand does allow for crazy loopholes. For one, race cars and road cars count as the same thing. Power/weight is not how it's done in reality. Reality has a 100 page rulebook because limiting power and weight alone doesn't accomplish all that much. If GT used Forza's or GT5P's numerical car classification, there would be no need besides variety to separate road cars and race cars, it would be handled automatically.

Also, he meant GT4's savable tuning set ups, not car classes. Though to be honest, I like driving the track before hand and setting my car up that way. Loading tunes would be boring to me, but to each their own.

 

[GT Motion]

The Forza system is actually better. The flaw with Forza is that they made the class gaps insanely wide, which knocks out certain cars. There weren't really any class killers in Forza, but "tier groups". Groups of cars better than others, but not a lone single car (or maybe there was in lower levels, I didn't race those classes much).

👎 Yea right...

In real life you aren't allowed to do certain suspension mods blah blah blah but in the end they make sure the cars have the same power to weight, I know about the long rule books, I have read them before. At the end of the day, GT5 replicates a real track event better than Forza period, thats off topic though so lets just agree to disagree.

 

[Rader]

I thought about the same thing, sure I'd like to get more cars but if I give in I will lost the sense of accomplishment.

 

[column5]

I am thinking about just giving in, I am not trying to abuse it, but I do need more race cars.

Yeah, I have given in when it comes to race cars. I'll usually buy anything under 1mil cr, but when it comes to the multi-million cr cars, I have to dupe. Reason is that I have to save up 20 mil for several cars, and when I spend that amount invariably something nice shows up in the UCD. If they simply raised the credit cap to 25 mil while leaving the most expensive cars at 20 mil, this problem would go away.

 

[daan]

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