Sick angle!

[Captain Trips]

I notice some people(mike le chat no and Droptop_Chick mostly)do fast drifts that don't look showy. When I drift, I normally get as close to 90 degrees as possible, and go at a nice slow pace. Is this good?

 

[Canadiandrifter]

Depends on your style...

Speed drifting (what they are doing), is fun but intense, and you have minimal room for error.

Show drifting (what you're doing), is fun, and relaxed (for me, at least). If you make a mistake, you have a little leway before it becomes fatal.

As for what's better, that's up to you..it's sugestive, really.

 

[Captain Trips]

Depends on your style...

Speed drifting (what they are doing), is fun but intense, and you have minimal room for error.

Show drifting (what you're doing), is fun, and relaxed (for me, at least). If you make a mistake, you have a little leway before it becomes fatal.

As for what's better, that's up to you..it's sugestive, really.

Speed drifting is fun for a while but it evokes controlled power sliding too much for my mind. 👍

Now, show drifts....wooo. That's the cream of learning to drift. God, I have to get a Video Capture Card...

 

[HammerShot]

Speed drifting is fun for a while but it evokes controlled power sliding too much for my mind. 👍

That's exactly how my mind works . I have too much of a sense to hold a fast line to hold a high angle drift. On occasions I can hold Higher Angles but the efficiency and consistancy of my run is seriously affected. Now I am just trying to make myself faster. I have the time gap between my grip and drift runs down to about 10 seconds(on the same car and setup).

When going show it doesn't matter if you have a slow pace. Just as long as you are consistant. 👍

 

[Small_Fryz]

I love high angle, check out my vids in my sig if you like high angles

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

You just said the basic rule for show drifting: high angles, low speed. That's how you want it, unless you are really going for speed drifting, but I think I noticed you like show drifting more

But for what Canadiandrifter said, isn't really the case with me (notice the word ME, cause it's all different) I think I find it very hard to keep those LOOONNGGG drifts going on high angle, and then ALSO get a bit of a decent entance and exit out of it. I never tried speed drifting so I don't know how difficult that is, but for me show drifting is difficult enough:tup:

But what I DO need to say, is that although I prefer to see show drift video's, the video's from Mike Le Chat Noir for example are just >><< and are one of the best on this forum:tup: So the name "show drifting" doesn't immediatly mean that speed drifting is less beautifull, definatly NOT:idea:

 

[thevtec]

TRi's 'Destructive Driving' video is full of sick angles, it's as if he was resurrected by the devil or something

 

[TRi]

I'm all about show for sure. I definitely respect the speeders, but I find show more fun to do and watch.

 

[HammerShot]

I'm all about show for sure. I definitely respect the speeders, but I find show more fun to do and watch.

Can't disagree with that. 👍 I may be all about high speed, but the show is more entertaining.

 

[BrykeSpike0086]

I would rather do speed drifts as a "foundation" of learning to drift, because learning to drift and doing already high angle drifts, I mean come on. Would it be better to work on angle at a time. 👍

Just like baby steps.

But thats just me, I rather be in the group of Drop_Top_Chick in those kinds of drifts because once you do that on tounge, it is rather fun.

 

[Captain Trips]

I would rather do speed drifts as a "foundation" of learning to drift, because learning to drift and doing already high angle drifts, I mean come on. Would it be better to work on angle at a time. 👍

Just like baby steps.

But thats just me, I rather be in the group of Drop_Top_Chick in those kinds of drifts because once you do that on tounge, it is rather fun.

Fast drifts? Holy shiz, you can't learn drifting by doing that. With fast drifts, one ****up and you're screwed.

 

[Boundary Layer]

Fast drifts? Holy shiz, you can't learn drifting by doing that. With fast drifts, one ****up and you're screwed.

how is that different from a high angle exhibition drift?

if you truly are carrying the maximum angle the car can hold, then in your words 'one ****up and you're screwed'

perhaps you just dont realize this. i notice in your other thread that you say you rarely countersteer, so you're probably nowhere near touching the farthest limits of your car on a routine basis

as for the general premise of this thread, trying to compare the two styles, i would just drop it. Although related by the fact that the cars are being controlled beyond the limits of the tires, the similarity stops somewhere right around there.
no one drift style is right or wrong, or 'good' or 'bad' as you put it in your first post. its whatever the individual makes of it.

 

[Swift]

Fast drifts? Holy shiz, you can't learn drifting by doing that. With fast drifts, one ****up and you're screwed.

Language please.....

 

[Droptop_Chick]

But thats just me, I rather be in the group of Drop_Top_Chick in those kinds of drifts because once you do that on tounge, it is rather fun.

I was not aware you could go drifting on peoples tounges.

 

[Captain Trips]

I was not aware you could go drifting on peoples tounges.

LOL. There are so many things I could reply to that post, all of them NC-17.

 

[red2000civicsi]

i like practicing high speed drift for several reasons, one of which is it taught me how to recover from an accidental over steer in my grip races. i like the precision also. high sped drifting is fun and when you pull of a good one its a very rewarding feeling.

 

[Captain Trips]

Language please.....

I didn't say anything...

 

[T07N]

I would choose angle over speed.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

I was not aware you could go drifting on peoples tounges.

Droptop.......how can you have "senior member" above your avatar, after joining on May 2005

 

[volcom_stone29]

Droptop.......how can you have "senior member" above your avatar, after joining on May 2005

Look more closely dude, it says March...

 

[Gen.]

It goes by how many posts you have.

 

[Naticon]

I think i go from speed drifting into show drifting, i adapt to the car and the type of turn. I have a small clip from my video of one of my favorite spots at fuji. Check it out.
i play with DS2.



S14 fuji speed show drift

 

[Captain Trips]

While you're on your high horse whipping us lowly mortals into shape, Tank, I'd just like to mention that maybe I modified my car specially for easy drift.

 

[Boundary Layer]

...ya, thats all fine and dandy

I'd just like to mention that I said you're probably nowhere near touching the farthest limits of your car. You said elsewhere that you dont often countersteer, so it should be easy to see how I'd come to that assumption. I'm gonna have to take a page out of G-T-4-Fan's book and start putting lotsa smilies in my posts so people stop taking so much offense to them.

Fast drifts? Holy shiz, you can't learn drifting by doing that. With fast drifts, one ****up and you're screwed.

Now, rather than just making personal attacks when people disagree with you, would you care to start justifying your comments? Why exactly can't you learn anything from speed drifting, in your opinion?

 

[Captain Trips]

All right, to prove this, I took my TRUENO Sprinter out on Trial Mountain and my Mazda RX-7 on the same track.

With the TRUENO I did show drifting. I used mostly my brakes and my steering, and some gas to even it all out. Now in the RX-7, I used plenty of gas, plenty of countersteering and small amounts of braking.
While show drifting I had to do NO steering to exit the turn, my car slid sideways. While speed drifting I had to steer into the turn a little.
With the show drifts I had to adjust my countersteer, while speed drifting just ramming the wheel over to one side worked.

While the two are evenly matched in some aspects, I'd say I prefer Show drifting to speed.

 

[Boundary Layer]

ok, so you've explained why you prefer to drift in one way, as opposed to the other....but I think you avoided answering why you said there is nothing to be learned from speed drifting.

not tryin to pick on you or anything or say that you're wrong (but I'm also not gonna say you're right ), I just think your previous statement was unjust.

btw - from your description of speed drifting, it sounds like you might need to either initiate a bit more rotation at corner entry, or take a wider entrance and exit - corner permitting of course. I think it's more common to exit a speed drift with no (or little) CS so you can get on the gas right away. It should be the exhibition drifts where you're countersteering some at the exit to keep the car parallel with the coming straight, and not over-rotating it. 👍

[edit] or at least, that's how i've always believed they should be executed[/edit]

 

[HammerShot]

Sounds right by my standards.