So now we can "bribe our way to victory"? (PRICES REVEALED, SEE OP)

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KWZX10
Not really, i can post a doge picture though

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I don't even know what this meme is about but the dog it's really cool LOL
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So is he/she the victim of the carjacking?
 
eran0004
The structure is irrelevant because no matter how the structure is layed out, those who seldom plays the game will end up collecting less resources (credits) than those who play frequently.
So why oppose so strongly about an option that allows people to skip the "boring" parts and go straight for what they want?
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Structure is never, ever, irrelevant. How much time you have to put into the game to get the rides you want is directly related to the structure of the game. If that structure or economy changes as a result of this new feature, I think people have a legitimate gripe. If this is just an add-on feature and all the payouts stay relatively the same, then this is just another option to get there even faster.
 
eran0004
Yes, I am. Thank you for asking.



Your arguments doesn't get any better just because you can use nasty words.

And no, I didn't say that to excuse GT5's career mode, I said that because most games have an element where you need to work and collect resources in order to progress.



If that's what you think I suggest that you go back and read again.



Before the seasonal events there was a point late on in the career path that forced you to repeat events over and over again in order to progress. Ever since the seasonals appeared I haven't repeated a single race, I've done the seasonals and all the rest has been just for fun.

The structure is irrelevant because no matter how the structure is layed out, those who seldom plays the game will end up collecting less resources (credits) than those who play frequently.



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So why oppose so strongly about an option that allows people to skip the "boring" parts and go straight for what they want?
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I can only assume you are not taking on board what people are saying, I couldnt care less how people play their games or if they can buy better cars than me on day one, This is about how it will directly effect my game when im offline, Infact im not even gonna waste my time explaining because you still cant comprehend that the game structure is indeed relevant, Seasonals were not a brightlight addidtion by pd but they were added bcause of the poor structure in place, they were added because it was hard and boring to progress in the game, Its amazing i have to read people make crap excuses for pd
 
lancia delta hf
I can only assume you are not taking on board what people are saying, I couldnt care less how people play their games or if they can buy better cars than me on day one, This is about how it will directly effect my game when im offline, Infact im not even gonna waste my time explaining because you still cant comprehend that the game structure is indeed relevant, Seasonals were not a brightlight addidtion by pd but they were added bcause of the poor structure in place, they were added because it was hard and boring to progress in the game, Its amazing i have to read people make crap excuses for pd
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Ey man, you need to fix your avatar. It's too pixalated.
 
Rod Carvalho
This is great in my opnion. I don't have time to grind to get the good cars and be competitive online.
So I'd pay for in-game credits. Lets say each 10 dollars spent in Gt6 credits would save me time to make 200 dollars in real life :)
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And I believe that makes you the first person publically happy about this. Just be sure to wear your flame suit, its dangerous out there right now.
 
They can buy whatever car they want; they're still gonna adhere to the lobby restrictions the way I see it.
 
lancia delta hf
Yes i thought you were on about home copies, So just leads to believe that you are just doing your best to defend pd no matter what
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You think I was on to home copies because you suggested that we should compare games with movies? And because I provided statistics that showed how movie tickets has become more expensive with time, that makes you believe I'm just doing my best to defend PD no matter what?

I'm sorry, the next time you make an unsupported claim based on thin air I shall be polite enough to look the other way.

lancia delta hf
I can only assume you are not taking on board what people are saying,
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I'm taking on board, but I don't agree with it.

I couldnt care less how people play their games or if they can buy better cars than me on day one, This is about how it will directly effect my game when im offline,
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So tell me, how will it effect your game that someone else is able to purchase credits?
 
I don't know why anyone would object to this feature, as long as the game isn't designed to make it fiendishly tiresome to get by without paying for credits (eg. F2P online/mobile games). I've used this sort of feature once before, to get around the unfair online-multiplayer-dependent car unlocks in Need for Speed The Run (I didn't have Xbox Live Gold or access to broadband internet at the time).

At the same time, I don't understand players who turn their favorite games into a monotonous task, resorting to repetitive "grinding" to make the sort of income they expect to have. I can't say I've ever felt underpaid by any title that isn't a silly F2P online game like I mentioned before, especially if I'm enjoying what I'm doing. If you enjoy the gameplay, isn't that the point of playing? If you don't enjoy the gameplay (or turn it into repetitive work), why are you playing? The GTA: Online mission payout thing quoted earlier is a perfect example. For people just trying to enjoy the game, the abundance of grinding lobbies are super annoying. I applaud Rockstar for trying to do something about all of the no-fun money hoarders.

I understand not everyone has a lot of time to invest in earning/unlocking things, which is why I have no problem with an option to pay for credits (granted that it's only that, an option). I just can't understand why the popular "solution" is to turn a game you should be enjoying into a chore. You'll get your XP/credits doing anything you want, why make it boring and pointless on purpose?
 
Chad Daddy
Ey man, you need to fix your avatar. It's too pixalated.
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Yes i've noticed that since the new site and thought it was just waiting to load or something, Will check it out
trustjab
@lancia delta hf None of that has to do with gt6 unless you know its the exact same situation in regards to a-spec.
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Yes you are right there but not entirely, I had concerns about A-spec mode when i saw sunday cup again, It just told me that pd havent spent any time coming up with something new and interesting, You know its not like i've raced in and won the sunday cup for the last 15 years so i am now ready for a new challenge, I'd like to prove myself in the sunday cup again.

Now that i am aware of this buy credits feature i am more concerned than i was before have certainly been put off buying it without seeing what the score is from others first, Despite its flaws i was getting excited and ready to pre-order it but i refuse to support companies who dont want to improve amd i think the core gameplay should have been the priority, My experience with GT5 and now this thread makes what i said very much about GT6 for me untill i see its not the case
 
RACECAR
And I believe that makes you the first person publically happy about this. Just be sure to wear your flame suit, its dangerous out there right now.
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Nah, I got in real early...but I always have one of these close by..
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Johnnypenso
Structure is never, ever, irrelevant. ... If this is just an add-on feature and all the payouts stay relatively the same, then this is just another option to get there even faster.
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Get where faster? There's no end game. So what if you can magically acquire all the cars? It doesn't matter one bit. I typically had all the cars in GT5. But I had the most fun in a Miata going four wide at High Speed Ring Reverse. It just doesn't matter one bit.
 
wowbaggerBR
Every game that had microtransactions that I know of are designed to enforce people to use real money.

That "you don't need to use it if you don't want to" is just naive.
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But this one is not rubbing in your face forcing you to buy it, meaning "you don't need to use it if you don't want to" is still relevant imo.
 
I won't be buying in-game credits. IMO it takes away the fun and sense of achievement but I do still think it was a good idea to put in the feature, as long as its optional. Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
 
Wouldn't this be more like what Rockstar is doing? You can simply buy more money, but that doesn't mean you're paying to win. You still have to complete the races and I believe some of the races will have HP/PP limits. All the money would allow one to do is get the cars they want faster and tune them up. One doesn't HAVE to use the money. Heck, with GT5, the Weekly online races forked out like 3 million + credits. And with the log in bonuses up to 200% you didn't even have to win the online races to make a lot of money really fast, but...that was the point, wasn't it? (And GT5's online races earned money faster than Forza 4 did, so...yeah.)
 
MX5Racer69
Get where faster? There's no end game. So what if you can magically acquire all the cars? It doesn't matter one bit. I typically had all the cars in GT5. But I had the most fun in a Miata going four wide at High Speed Ring Reverse. It just doesn't matter one bit.
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Get where I want to go, not where you want to go. It matters to me one bit, if not you. I didn't say anything about acquiring all the cars, I just want to get where I want to go as fast as possible. A reasonable garage with 100 or so cars ready to race online, completely avoiding offline altogether if possible.
 
Dragonwhisky
Ok. Here's the problem with "capping". If they limit the poor or patient folks by making it so you can't buy a certain car or a certain upgrade without spending your real world dollars, over and above what you've already spent for the gear, software, and infrastructure, to play, then it's a problem. That would be what I'd call shameless profiteering. They're leveraging your desire for something with an easily enforceable fulcrum. I sincerely hope they don't do this. Because they could, and fairly easily.

If all they do is make it so you can "afford" to buy a certain car or upgrade sooner than the aforementioned poor or patient folks, then it's not a problem. Those that want it quicker can, those that can't or don't want to get it quicker, can still get it. Whatever "it" is, it'll just take them longer.
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Yeah that would suck. I'm worried that ill be tempted to buy credits as I generally don't play enough to be able to afford any of the super expensive cars.

I just wish all cars were available in arcade mode
 

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