Sony OWNS PD, not just it, they are activally working in the car in many ways, even in the car sound system
it bothers me that Honda hasnt invested much on Honda e, specially in market and sell it outside europe
No, because Sony’s mobility division making a car has absolutely nothing to do with my car being scanned by PD who are responsible for developing the game (Sony only exists to fund PD and publish Gran Turismo, the most involvement they would have would be giving influence into what kind of direction and sales figures they would expect such as Gran Turismo going live service, in line with many other Sony titles)
Good. Concentrate on their old USA moto of “We make it simple.”. Keep racing and bring back the Honda feeling of the twenty years from 1980-2000.
SHM officially undecided about it:
www.thedrive.com
...did Honda rug pull SonySHM officially undecided about it:
Sony Has 'No Information' on the Fate of the Afeela Project After Honda's EV Pullback
Sony Honda Mobility says that both Sony and Honda "will hold discussions" on how Honda's EV exit affects the Afeela 1 sedan.
At the same time though, Chinese brands are seen as at the forefront of global EV push. Couple with "legacy" Western automakers not truly (both corporate and consumer) feeling it regarding EVs and Japan being seen as behind on that in general favor of hybrids and hydrogen fuel cell (the latter of which didn't truly take off), there is perception by some* that only China can do EVs right.
In China they have special rules to encourage people to set up electric car companies. With such a low barrier to entry there are many hundreds of them, and so more come and go and they not normally part of a large legacy carmaker, and are often repackaging existing components.
I'll try to save you from others telling you in less savory ways.
For the vast majority of drivers on the road, all of this is a non-issue. They may be soulless, but they're mechanically very simple and thus rather effortless to own in many ways. Also, no gearbox to worry about and low to no noise - they're practically Rolls-Royces except they're considerably more affordable to buy and own. The weight is an issue, though that's less of an issue due to driving dynamics - tell that to Chevy Suburbans weighing close to 3 tonnes - and more due to the weight affecting tire wear and tire particle emissions, and even then it's not even something unique to EV's. Heck, I'd bet said 3 tonne Chevy Suburbans are atleast equally damaging to the environment from tire particles alone, let alone their V8's.
Several professional studies will tell you that over the course of an EV's lifetime, they will pollute less than non-EV's even if they're recharged using coal power, but the production/disposal aspect does deserve a mention, so you're not wrong there. At the same time though, if we're gonna talk how damaging EV's are to the environment, we might as well talk about how cars in general, electric or not, are wasteful in both emissions and space:
That's kind of an chicken or the egg problem - if there's no or lacking infrastructure, there's no appeal to EV's, but if noone wants EV's there's no incentive to build infrastructure to support them. Even this isn't unique to EV's though, as hydrogen has the same problem (except worse, since you can't refuel a hydrogen car at home), and it wouldn't surprise me if, at the dawn of the automobile, petrol pump infrastructure was lacking as well. As for the range... I doubt petrol cars driving up hills or towing heavy cargo (or both) all day are particularly efficient. Not saying EV range anxiety isn't real, just that it sometimes can be a bit onesided.
I will concede that EV's don't make much sense for sports cars - what makes EV's work for most people tends to hinder sports cars' ability to be... well, fun unless they have absurd (1000-2000 hp+) power figures. Racing games can be a similar story, though I wouldn't say they're unwelcome simply because of the variety they can offer to a car list of mostly "petrol"-powered cars. That being said, it's only really in the sports-and-above car (and racing game) world where that last part of your message applies, and even then, hybrids can be plenty heavy in their own right. Granted, the lastest Audi A5 is a heavy car in general, but it's still kindof a joke just how much the latest Audi RS5 weighs.
Before I go, I just ought to mention my take on the whole EV-hate (and past Prius-hate, surely) malakey - it's very possible that oil companies terrified of the prospect of losing profits from people not refueling their cars may or may not try (and has tried, arguably successfully) to influence public opinion on EV's as well as politicians to prevent that. After all, why else would Honda suddenly scrap their entire EV lineup in America if not for a certain you-know-who undermining the EV market? Just some food for thought...
People have always been against change, especially the very vocal minority that would passionately visit forums related to their favorite products.
You must live in a small country. Here in the US, EV sales are only 7.9% of the market.
It's rather amusing when people (not directed at you) who don't like EVs describe them in this manner.
Thank you for taking the time to write out all the things I thought upon reading the post you quotedFor the vast majority of drivers on the road, all of this is a non-issue. They may be soulless, but they're mechanically very simple and thus rather effortless to own in many ways. Also, no gearbox to worry about and low to no noise - they're practically Rolls-Royces except they're considerably more affordable to buy and own. The weight is an issue, though that's less of an issue due to driving dynamics - tell that to Chevy Suburbans weighing close to 3 tonnes - and more due to the weight affecting tire wear and tire particle emissions, and even then it's not even something unique to EV's. Heck, I'd bet said 3 tonne Chevy Suburbans are atleast equally damaging to the environment from tire particles alone, let alone their V8's.
Speaking of environment:
Several professional studies will tell you that over the course of an EV's lifetime, they will pollute less than non-EV's even if they're recharged using coal power, but the production/disposal aspect does deserve a mention, so you're not wrong there. At the same time though, if we're gonna talk how damaging EV's are to the environment, we might as well talk about how cars in general, electric or not, are wasteful in both emissions and space:
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...before you ask, yes I still like cars, but I'm also able to recognize the above fact and that humanity would probably be better off if we lived in societies where having a car isn't a requirement (looking at you America) - that is, unless you willingly wished to live in such a situtation, like on a farm or something like that.
As for the superiority complex, uh... Didn't people say the same thing about Toyota Prius drivers almost 20 years ago?
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Thinking about it, alot of anti-EV sentiment is really just recycled anti-Prius sentiment isn't it.
That's kind of an chicken or the egg problem - if there's no or lacking infrastructure, there's no appeal to EV's, but if noone wants EV's there's no incentive to build infrastructure to support them. Even this isn't unique to EV's though, as hydrogen has the same problem (except worse, since you can't refuel a hydrogen car at home), and it wouldn't surprise me if, at the dawn of the automobile, petrol pump infrastructure was lacking as well. As for the range... I doubt petrol cars driving up hills or towing heavy cargo (or both) all day are particularly efficient. Not saying EV range anxiety isn't real, just that it sometimes can be a bit onesided.
I will concede that EV's don't make much sense for sports cars - what makes EV's work for most people tends to hinder sports cars' ability to be... well, fun unless they have absurd (1000-2000 hp+) power figures. Racing games can be a similar story, though I wouldn't say they're unwelcome simply because of the variety they can offer to a car list of mostly "petrol"-powered cars. That being said, it's only really in the sports-and-above car (and racing game) world where that last part of your message applies, and even then, hybrids can be plenty heavy in their own right. Granted, the lastest Audi A5 is a heavy car in general, but it's still kindof a joke just how much the latest Audi RS5 weighs.
Gawd this is a long post isn't it
People want convenience and 9 times out of 10 EVs are largely inconvenient. Especially when the Catch 22 exists between wanting something affordable to buy and wanting something with over 300 miles of range without laying down 6 figures.
You act like ICE powered cars don't have increasing reliance on software.
After what Trump and the Conservatives did to Hyundai, this makes complete sense.This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:
In the Middle of Its Gran Turismo 7 Event, Afeela’s Future is Suddenly in Question
Honda’s bombshell announcement that it is pulling the plug on its planned North American EV lineup has sent shockwaves through the auto industry, and there’s a particular piece of collateral damage that hits close to home for Gran Turismo fans: the Afeela 1...
