Sorry to be thick toe angle

[loftylyons46]

Is toe in a negative or is it vice versa ?

 

[Ronald6]

Toe in is positive, toe out is negative.

 

[loftylyons46]

Thank you

So does a + toe angle = under steer

 

[berty1979]

Although its not as simple as this because other factors come into play but if we isolate the toe angle only this is what happens in GT5.
Front wheels-
Negative toe= Your car will turn in more positivley and will be more prone to oversteer.
Positive toe= The opposite of above, I never use positive at the front.
Rear wheels
Negative toe= Your car will take tight turns better but will be less stable and more prone to oversteer (good at monaco for some cars).
Positive toe= Ideal for tracks with tricky high speed cambers (e.g. Cape Ring) this will help to stabilise your car. If you go too far will contribute to understeer.

Please note that you should rely on the rest of the suspension to compliment this and test it out as taking the settings too far with the wrong car can ruin its handling completely and increase tyre wear.

 

[D_M]

So does a + toe angle = under steer

Run your favorite car in its stock configuration at your favorite track. Slew the front or the rear toe throughout the range, while keeping the other values constant. You need to see what affect that adjustment has on that particular car.

 

[loftylyons46]

Thanks for the advise an help guys

 

[Rockspeny]

Always happy to help out a fellow Yorkshireman. For the rear end, if you knock the toe-in from the norm 0.20 to 0.40 on a rear drive, high power car, then in theory the rear end will be less likely to step out when you're trying to go forwards. At the front, I have not yet tried using positive, but on a couple of softly sprung, real stubourn "plow-on" cars, like American '70s muscle cars, then a bit of negative toe-out car give the fronts more turn in power.

 

[Lambob]

If all else fails, you can also try 0/0 toes, you might be pleasantly surprised, or not.

 

[Z Crazy]

One edit I think needs to be made,

Front

Toe In (+) - Will generally have less turn in but will have better exit cornering.
Toe Out (-) - Will generally have more turn in but more push in corner exit.

 

[peterjford]

If you are experiencing lift-throttle over-steer, especially in a MR vehicle, increasing the rear Toe In (+) will give you more stability under braking. Some people can actually use the lift-throttle over-steer to their advantage, but I always seem to get the backend going it the wrong direction. Most vehicles start at a +.20 at the rear and I find that .33-.40 is enough to keep vehicles like the Elise and the Audi R8 road car straight.

 

[Morgoth_666]

I've been trying for a long time, but I still can't wrap my brain around positive toe being toe in. It just doesn't make sense to me. Positive should push the front of the tires away from the center(increasing the angle from its base). Just saying.

 

[ZenRazo]

One edit I think needs to be made,

Front

Toe In (+) - Will generally have less turn in but will have better exit cornering.
Toe Out (-) - Will generally have more turn in but more push in corner exit.

The best answer by far. Simple and 100% correct, especially the last part about Toe Out having more push (understeer) on corner exit!

All race cars run Toe Out on the front, how much depends on the car and the drivers style of driving.