Stop Whaling - PETITION!

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Hopefully this hasn't been posted here before. Personally i'm against whaling for no other reason other than it just seems entierly wrong (just like fishing for anything, or hunting things that are nearly extinct is morally wrong).

And i know this is probably in the wrong forum, just wanted it to get more exposure.
 
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No moral wrongdoing hails worse in comparison!
 
Long live the Hartford Whalers! Carolina my ass!

BTW, who hunts whales anymore? The Native American tribes on our coast do it, but they have traditional reasons for doing so, and they actually use the whale. They don't kill for sport.
 
Mustang-man
See the words nearly extinct in my quote? We shouldn't be killing off species that share the planet with us. 👎
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Yes I did - and quoted it. Didn't answer the question though. Why is it "morally wrong"?

And how did just restricting it to merely "nearly extinct" species suddenly change to ALL of them with "we shouldn't be killing off species that share the planet with us"?
 
Succinct - but not very explanatory.

You stated that it is "morally wrong" to hunt whales (or indeed kill any animal). What is your reasoning behind this conclusion? I am only asking that you back up your opinion or enlighten us as to your thinking. After all, if you have an opinion you must have thought about it in order to form that opinion. Please share it with us.
 
Japanese does that. :ouch: I've had them before, they were OK. I do like whales(I'm not talking about food here), so I don't want them to die out either. I don't think it should be banned, but I do think it should be kept under a watch.

I just clicked on the link, and it's a game. You are whale, shooting bubbles at Japanese WWII looking ships. When you hit them, what looks like little guys in Chinese straw hats fall out and they drown. Now, that's just messed up! :(
 
Didn't you know? "Animal rights" activists are all for saving the lives of animals. Only human beings don't count, apparently.
 
Famine
Didn't you know? "Animal rights" activists are all for saving the lives of animals. Only human beings don't count, apparently.
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Yeah, some of these Greenpeace-type guys are real hardcore a-h*les(excuse my language). I have no problems with people protesting and sending messages in a reasonable manner though.
 
Greenpeace are fine (to an extent - as they pootle round the world in their marine diesel powered ship, producing as much carbon dioxide as a half million cars a day). ALF are the bastards.
 
Famine
Greenpeace are fine (to an extent - as they pootle round the world in their marine diesel powered ship, producing as much carbon dioxide as a half million cars a day).
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:lol:👍 Have you seen them go after fishing vessels? It's only matter of time before somebody's gonna lose an eye..... :D

I hope my man, Paul McCartney isn't an member of ALF. He probably supports them though.
 
These are the sort of responses i expected over at the GTX, but it seems there has been a role reversal.

I'm not sure if i used 'morally' in the right context or not, but my vocabulary is fairly limited so it is all i could come up with at the time.

I'm just not a hunting person. Would never go and shoot rabbits, birds or anything of the sort, so am against all forms of hunting - albiet in a silent way (i don't actively do anyhing about it usually).
 
If there were no more whales, who would splash all the paying patrons at Sea World? An obese gentleman with black and white body paint?

Also, you need to think of everything a whale consumes and ask yourself: Is the whale cuter than the seals, penguins, and plankton (some of which have little super-cute microscopic smiley faces arranged in the cytoplasm)?
 
Would it have been morally wrong if the direct cause to the dodo bird extinction was to human practice? (I'm not sure why the dodo became extinct, just using that as an example)

Now here is a good question...why would it be morally wrong for someone to cause human life extinction...if it even is morally wrong??

Plus, should this be in opinions forum? :confused:
 
With negative attitudes, no. There has been a few petitions in the past that have worked, isn't that the way South Park started being made again?
 
Whale meat is awesome stuff. Plus, is a major meat source of quite a few people in this world.

California numbers of whales seen on our coast indicate a excellent whale population, despite some claims otherwise.
 
California isn't the world. There's no way to get a good estimate on the total whale population. They're still endangered now, but current depredation of whale stocks isn't as bad now as it was when they were a major industry.

Whale meat isn't the primary food source for anybody... except maybe the Inuits. Wait, I've finally found a reason to hate Eskimos! :lol:

Whale meat isn't even a staple in Japan, more of a luxury. Many modern Japanese don't buy it, the industry goes on more because of cultural inertia than economics... much like Japan's agriculture. That's why they're continuing it under the guise of scientific research... they don't need to whale anymore, they just can't stop.

It's not an important industry for most of the world, as a lot of products previously supplied by whaling are now better served by other industries (most notably by the petroleum industry), and regardless of morality, it should be limited, if only to preserve what is basically a very very finite resource. Whale reproduction rates are low, and excessive culling can have disastrous effects on whale populations.

Culling would be acceptable, though, if there were a steady and large population of whales... but there isn't.

3-Wheel Drive
Online petitioning is like landscaping with spoons. No matter how many people contribute, no one ever notices any results.
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C'mon... never tried it? Landscaping with spoons can be fun. Almost as much fun as trying to cut through prison bars with dental floss. It's just that dental floss takes longer.

An online petition in English to stop a Japanese industry? Wow, this is going to work. :lol:
 
Solid Lifters
Well, I guess you hate a lot of people all over the world, from Europe, to Asia, to South America, Africa and of course, the North Americans.

Here's some info on how important whale hunting and whale meat are to people all over the world.

Whales = tasty.

http://www.tierramerica.net/2001/0729/iarticulo.shtml

http://www.highnorth.no/news/nedit.asp?which=302

http://www.pvmirror.com/nature/whalewatching-ing.html
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Hmmm... the first one is about Japan, where, as I've said and as stated in the article, whale isn't a staple item on the menu anymore, and is more of a delicacy.

The second one is about Norwegian islanders, and the IWC has granted permission to indigenes and small populations to continue whaling anyway...

The third one is about whale-watching, which is actually a very lucrative commercial venture for many island and coastal communities (we have quite a few sites here) as it brings in tourist dollars.

niky
Whale meat isn't the primary food source for anybody... except maybe the Inuits. Wait, I've finally found a reason to hate Eskimos! :lol:
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And that was sarcasm... :sly: ...like I've said, I've got no moral objection to whaling (although I ought to, considering whales are more intelligent than most mammals... but then, I eat pig, and pigs are almost human... :lol: ), I object to excessive whaling from a conservationist standpoint.
 
I am too against it. But I've not signed the petition because petitions are stupid.

Whales don't really do anything to deserve to be eaten, they just swim around all day eating plankton (mostly), so what's the point? If you want whales to eat, create a place where whales are breed specifically for that. What's wrong with eating beef anyway?

The difference between eating whale and eating beef are that Beef Cows are breed to be Beef cows. I'm not sure of the facts, but if just went out hunting cows we'd kill them alot faster then they can reproduce (For extra information: The average gestation period of cows varies from 275 to 283 days).

Why is it necessary to eat these things? I think the research is a complete load too, the basic anatomy of a whale hasn't changed in 600 years of whaling. Whilist they may be intelligent, I can honestly say I don't lie awake at night wondering if whales are going to dominate the earth.
 
Casio
The difference between eating whale and eating beef are that Beef Cows are breed to be Beef cows. I'm not sure of the facts, but if just went out hunting cows we'd kill them alot faster then they can reproduce (For extra information: The average gestation period of cows varies from 275 to 283 days).
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Like niky said in his post, it is considered delicacy. It's not like these people are eating it like it's chicken. :D
 
All I have to say is whale is delicious. I ate it many times when growing up in Iceland. Now I'm craving some harðfiskur.
 
a6m5
Like niky said in his post, it is considered delicacy. It's not like these people are eating it like it's chicken. :D
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Human is probably considered a delicacy too. Doesn't mean we have to have it. Here in Australia, you can buy kangaroo meat, I refuse to eat it, although it's probably a delicacy, it doesn't automatically give people the right to kill it.

I feel this should almost be in the opinion forum.
 
Casio
Human is probably considered a delicacy too. Doesn't mean we have to have it. Here in Australia, you can buy kangaroo meat, I refuse to eat it, although it's probably a delicacy, it doesn't automatically give people the right to kill it.

I feel this should almost be in the opinion forum.
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Actually, I was referring to your "breeding" comment. There is no need for it, because the demand isn't that huge(hence the "delicacy" statement). I don't know about the "right" to kill it, but I wouldn't support whaling either. I get the impression that whales are friendly and definitely not "chicken-brained". I'm not into eating intelligent animals! :D I've heard that in parts of Asia, they eat dogs. :scared: My friend who was stationed in South Korea swears that he's been to a "Dog Farm", where they let you pick out a dog you want and clean it for you. He said he had some and it was alright. :yuck:
 
Mustang-man
I'm just not a hunting person. Would never go and shoot rabbits, birds or anything of the sort, so am against all forms of hunting - albiet in a silent way (i don't actively do anyhing about it usually).
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So what's you opinion on hunting with 'domesticated' animals that are merely using their natural instinct? E.g hunting with hawks and the such.

Trying to compare a petition that got South Park continued and a petition that is almost global in its effect is rediculous.
 

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